General Wrestling Discussion

[PTNR 2.0]

The IWC amuses me when they first say, "Wrestling is for everyone!" and then say, "Except for the Middle East fans." I bet they are the same people who demand other fandoms stop gatekeeping.

The ICW being unendingly apoplectic about the Saudi thing has always been confusing to me.

Like, it's a fucking wrestling event, not a tourism advertisement trying to convince people to bring themselves and as many female and gay friends and family as they can fit into a charter flight for an extended stay in sunny Saudi Arabia.

Obviously I get the idea of dirty money and I readily admit I'd be fine with a friend giving me 20 bucks he got from his paycheck but not if he got it from mugging and murdering someone, but human rights in Saudia Arabia are exactly what they'd be if the country was dirt poor -- better, it could easily be argued, since they have to keep up the appearance of being a modern, moderate state so that they remain palletable enough for countries who care about that sort of thing to trade with. The WWE partnership isn't some insidious, evil scheme. It's part of that. "See? We're so modern that we have pro wrestling! buy oil pls"

Put bluntly, it's not a situation where women being oppressed is downstream from having the WWE run shows; women being oppressed is downstream from Islam and being able to afford the Fed running shows is downstream from oil reserves.

Besides, if the Fed wants to take the Saudi's money and then bring it back to America and use it in part to pay all the women and gay people and all the other types on their payroll that wouldn't have a fun time in Saudi Arabia, isn't that an objectively thing than the Saudis using it to hire more burka inspectors, beard die for the royal family and specially imported condoms that don't chaff the inside of a goat's asshole as much?

 

[Well Intentioned]

The only thing I hate about WrestleArabia is that the atmosphere is going to absolutely not be there.

Say what you want about smarks, the IWC, whatever, but the crowd reactions/connection/whatever is going to be vastly different over in camelfucker land and I think that's going to diminish the enjoyment I get out of 1 of 2 PLEs I watch a year (the other being All In--hahaha, just kidding, it's the Rumble.)

E: I also regret Hulk Hogan's passing as being inopportune as I would've loved to have seen his rah rah USA USA routine in Saudi Arabia.

...

What's Hacksaw Jim Duggan up to these days?

 

[Pentex]

The IWC amuses me when they first say, "Wrestling is for everyone!" and then say, "Except for the Middle East fans." I bet they are the same people who demand other fandoms stop gatekeeping.

IWC fans have done as much to ruin wrestling as the comedy writers, Lord Vince of the Three Big Black Cocks in All Three Holes, the Doofus Son-in-Law, Vince Russo, and anyone else who thought mainlining cheap pops to the crowds like they were 8-balls of heroin was good business.

But for some reason retarded ass wrestling fans went batty with speculation OMG THEY GOT NAITO OMG TANAHASHI.

Two broken down old men with maybe 1.25 knees between them? What a get!

Not a fucking chance WWE fans have heard of Kaito, the ones in Japan sure, but overall people would be like who?

Kaito Kiyomiya had every last ounce of his aura taken by Ozawa.

 

[Well Intentioned]

I don't agree. Austin would have won. Obviously. Even if it was a complete squash (which is the one thing Hogan wouldn't agree to) it would still have been epic. Call it childish, but I always wanted to see the Hulk up happen but then wham, hard right turn, Austin does the stunner, flips him off on the ground while the Hulk Hogan theme is cut off by Austin's.

I think Austin knew enough about Hogan to be wary of him, and I think he was vindicated given how that whole debacle with Michaels played out.

Austin stomping a mudhole in Hogan and walking it dry would've been great, and Austin fighting off the NWO as Hogan tried to even the odds could've made for an entertaining match, but I don't think Austin at that stage of his career (broken neck, both knees wrecked) and a geriatric Hogan (see: him selling Taker's chokeslam) would've made for compelling TV. Throw in the complications of all the egos involved and it would've ended up a mess.

 

[Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr.]

I think Austin knew enough about Hogan to be wary of him, and I think he was vindicated given how that whole debacle with Michaels played out.

Austin stomping a mudhole in Hogan and walking it dry would've been great, and Austin fighting off the NWO as Hogan tried to even the odds could've made for an entertaining match, but I don't think Austin at that stage of his career (broken neck, both knees wrecked) and a geriatric Hogan (see: him selling Taker's chokeslam) would've made for compelling TV. Throw in the complications of all the egos involved and it would've ended up a mess.

Like Sting and Triple Haitch?

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If I was a JP fan, I'd get a refund.
>We have a big surprise!
>It's CM Punk!
Fuck off

 

[Jeff Dunham]

MLW Fightland is tonight for anyone who cares. Hammerstone reminds me of Lex Luger.

 

[Well Intentioned]

Like Sting and Triple Haitch?

Yeah, although my theory has always been that WWE had no real idea what to do with Sting once they finally landed him and they hurt themselves in the confusion.

 

[JustStopDude]

I'm going to sound like a pussy, but I didn't get to see Worlds Collide with my kid live on stream because I had to travel out of state for work. So he promised me and I promised him, we would watch it together.

Finally got to do that after spending like 14 hours in a plane. Watching Dirty Dom win with my kid, sharing that moment, seeing Rey sort of crack a smile, ever subtly, got me thinking.

Who is the most polar opposite of Dirty Dom? I mean a kid whose father was a wrestler/promoter/whatever and was the biggest fucking waste of space?

It has to be George Gulas right? His dad ran NWA Mid-America in the 70's and the 80's. I'm trying not to dox myself, but as a child, I think I saw him wrestle. Apparently he was hated by the talent because he would, in mid match, tell guys "Daddy says sell". Sorry. I had a few beers watching the YouTube with my kid, and I can't remember whose quote it was, I want to say Rickie Martin, where he claimed his back was shot from having to carry George for so long just so his cheap ass dad would pay him.

Nick Gulas, his father that ran the territory, was notorious for not paying wrestlers what he owed. Jerry Jerrett thought he bought a portion of the promotion and found out he didn't when he tried to stop Nick from pushing his idiot son. Jerry Lawler was the star of the promotion and pretty much agreed to follow Jerrett out the door and start the Memphis promotion rather than deal with George and his dad.

Everyone always mentions Greg Gagne as nepotism in wrestling but to be fair, Greg was actually a start athlete in a top ten college football program. He just couldn't replace his dad and he looked goofy compared to Hulk Hogan in AWA. George Gulas was a different beast.

I'm not even going to show a George match. Here is him interviewing fans after a show. It's surreal. Like Tim and Eric episode.

https://youtu.be/yWks0rQS5Hk?si=hayna-M8-6TPqZhb

Sorry. This has been a drunk boomer post.

 

[Blurst]

I know it's Reddit but /ScJerk is my favorite lurking subreddit.

This is fucking gold.

 

[East_Clintwood]

What happened to Crown Jewel being "just as good, or even better than, Wrestlemania"? Shouldn't the Saudis be happy with what they already had?

The thing you have to learn about all those oil rich faggots is they are absolute marks for brand names/branding. It doesn't matter if Crown Jewel was functionally similar to Wrestlemania as long as WM still has the cachet of being THE big show they're gonna want it.

 

[Magic Sun Daddy]

The thing you have to learn about all those oil rich faggots is they are absolute marks for brand names/branding. It doesn't matter if Crown Jewel was functionally similar to Wrestlemania as long as WM still has the cachet of being THE big show they're gonna want it.

It's not about having the best. It's about having the most expensive. They else would every Saudi prince under the sun be obsessed with collecting shitty overpriced sports cars?

 

[Non Incestual CK3 Player]

What's Hacksaw Jim Duggan up to these days?

He was last seen during Hogan's 10 bell salute. Before that he was seen for 1 second during a snickers ad with Carmelo Hayes. In other words, he's still alive and not really doing much.

I know it's Reddit but /ScJerk is my favorite lurking subreddit.

This is fucking gold.

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I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's probably the best subreddit to ever exist because people actually try to be funny.

 

[GloryHole Stalker]

He was last seen during Hogan's 10 bell salute. Before that he was seen for 1 second during a snickers ad with Carmelo Hayes. In other words, he's still alive and not really doing much.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's probably the best subreddit to ever exist because people actually try to be funny.

I check in there from time to time, and while there are some nuggets of gold to be found, it is unfortunately infested with the same type of faggot that the rest of reddit harbors... it's still reddit after all.

 

[RasterTatth]

a conspiracy could be had over this being posted an hour prior to the Andrade firing news.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

Who is the most polar opposite of Dirty Dom? I mean a kid whose father was a wrestler/promoter/whatever and was the biggest fucking waste of space?

Like you wrote, George Gulas is the best, or worst, example of this. He was so bad and Nick Gulas was so insistent on pushing him that it killed the company.
David Flair was legitimately one of the worst wrestlers ever. Even by WCW 2000 standards he was awful.
David Sammartino comes to mind as well. Bruno understandably tried hard to get him over and it never worked.
Ava in NXT, The Rock's daughter, is completely worthless and only has a job because of her dad, and everybody knows it. Rock showing up on NXT that one time and letting everyone not so subtly know she was protected by him was ridiculous.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Ava in NXT, The Rock's daughter, is completely worthless and only has a job because of her dad,

I forget, did that Eddie Guerrero daughter ever really try wrasslin or did she go straight to stripping?
Shaul, I think? I def recall hearing she was a stripper, but I fuzzy think she might have been a dimeless shitter for a second?

 

[Hatoful Dandy]

Like you wrote, George Gulas is the best, or worst, example of this. He was so bad and Nick Gulas was so insistent on pushing him that it killed the company.
David Flair was legitimately one of the worst wrestlers ever. Even by WCW 2000 standards he was awful.
David Sammartino comes to mind as well. Bruno understandably tried hard to get him over and it never worked.
Ava in NXT, The Rock's daughter, is completely worthless and only has a job because of her dad, and everybody knows it. Rock showing up on NXT that one time and letting everyone not so subtly know she was protected by him was ridiculous.

Erik Watts.

I forget, did that Eddie Guerrero daughter ever really try wrasslin or did she go straight to stripping?
Shaul, I think? I def recall hearing she was a stripper, but I fuzzy think she might have been a dimeless shitter for a second?

She was in FCW/NXT for a while and was a part of the Ascension when it was a stable but I think injuries put an end to it then she married Aiden English and is a burlesque dancer.

 

[Non Incestual CK3 Player]

Like you wrote, George Gulas is the best, or worst, example of this. He was so bad and Nick Gulas was so insistent on pushing him that it killed the company.
David Flair was legitimately one of the worst wrestlers ever. Even by WCW 2000 standards he was awful.
David Sammartino comes to mind as well. Bruno understandably tried hard to get him over and it never worked.
Ava in NXT, The Rock's daughter, is completely worthless and only has a job because of her dad, and everybody knows it. Rock showing up on NXT that one time and letting everyone not so subtly know she was protected by him was ridiculous.

I have a soft spot for David Flair. Of course he never shouldve been champion or anything, but I always found him to be a "so bad he's good" wrestler.

 

[Blackstar]

Please no, is there anyone (except the Saudis) who would even want to see this? Taker already spent half a decade longer than he should've wrestling, he's had both his hips and knees replaced. I know that he said that Gunter would be the one guy he would want to wrestle but the chance of it ending up going well is very unlikely, just let the old guy rest.

 

[trent]

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Please no, is there anyone (except the Saudis) who would even want to see this? Taker already spent half a decade longer than he should've wrestling, he's had both his hips and knees replaced. I know that he said that Gunter would be the one guy he would want to wrestle but the chance of it ending up going well is very unlikely, just let the old guy rest.

Taker has been dogshit for a decade plus at this stage and was only ever mediocre at best anyway. He has the character and the whole aura down maybe as well as anyone has ever done it but literally no ones favourite match in the history of wrestling fandom featured Taker as one of the participants.