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I always thought Sherri Martel was underrated. She had just the right definition. I remember her first night in WCW being interviewed by Mean Gene on Saturday Night. Mean Gene was having the time of his life with her lol.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DdW8yjVj0h8
She really was something else both in the ring and backstage practically one of the boys, Shawn used to say when he was paired with her and anyone tried to stretch him Sherri said send them her way and she'd tune em' up. She was with the fed for a couple years before going manager as womens champion when they got rid of Richter too.
Looks like she forgot the nipple tape in her bag.
 
Saudi Arabia gets a WrestleMania, British Youtubers most effected.

I’m not giving them a view, WrestleTalk put up a video about how “WWE Sells Out Even More”, I’m assuming it’s them griping about “how a regressive country gets a WrestleMania before the UK”, I don’t know I think I have them set to Ignore on my actual account…
Bongs upset that England won't be the first Islamic country to host a WM
 
It's ok, England. You still get to have All-In

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X-Pac was over pretty big in '98 and '99 from what I remember. I honestly think that 'X-Pac heat' was from the fans never forgiving him for turning on Kane.
X-pac was massively over as an underdog face and a heel people wanted to see get what he was due. He was often the one doing DX's run ins and roundhouse kicking a face before doing a crotch chop and running up the ramp with his tongue out. He was an excellent example of a mid carder elevating the whole stable because he could carry a story line. He was small, face and had the right kind of charisma.
X-Pac really wasn't bad by any stretch. If anything, I'd say he was a solid worker and a great seller. The problem came in how he never was involved with anything meaningful yet constantly got wins despite that. No matter how good someone is in the ring, the audience's patience can onto last for so long before it they stop expecting anything meaningful from them. Same thing happened to Ziggler. He peaked when he cashed in Money in the Bank, and from there he meandered in bad storyline after bad storyline, not even coming close to world title gold, and eventually it put him in a death spiral where no one was able to buy into him as a contender for any push or title.
Pac has the same problem as Big Show. They're defined by their height and build and there's only a few ways you can use them. 1-2-3 kid was all he could do but as he got older and on screen more he wasn't the plucky under dog kid any more. That leaves him only the weasel role and it seems like WWF didn't have any one to put him with to do that.

He was the exact kind of talent that could carry a faction and tell their story lines. He was never going to be the champion (unless his spic friend died..) but he didn't need to be. If they had taken him off the TV for a while and had him come back in new gear with a new faction he would have kept going for longer.

I saw Cryme Tyme for the first time yesterday. WWE used to have real life characters not fake ones like tranny mother or whatever Rhea is doing now.
 
Okay, legit question: why is it that every good or decent Youtube channel or podcast about wrestling is always hosted by either British/Scottish/Irish guys? Is there any particular reason why these guys have cornered the market? You have OSW, Wrestling Bios, Botchamania, Cultaholic Wrestling, and MarkyD.

In the once in a blue moon where I watch a modern match there's a fucking British guy on the commentary. Did I miss a meeting or something?
 
X-Pac was over pretty big in '98 and '99 from what I remember. I honestly think that 'X-Pac heat' was from the fans never forgiving him for turning on Kane.
Nah it was because X-Factor was full of 3 nobodies that no one wanted to see, doing nothing of import, and taking time away from Austin, Stone Cold, the Rock, Jericho, Benoit, Angle, Undertaker, Kane, etc, etc, etc.

The X-Pac heat only really started with X-Factor.
X-Pac really wasn't bad by any stretch. If anything, I'd say he was a solid worker and a great seller. The problem came in how he never was involved with anything meaningful yet constantly got wins despite that.
The interesting thing is that either the Kliq or WWE Talent Relations would toss Waltman out to work with prospective guys. If they were able to keep up and have an interesting match with him, that guy got the green light. I believe this was an anecdote Scott Hall told once.
X-pac was massively over as an underdog face and a heel people wanted to see get what he was due. He was often the one doing DX's run ins and roundhouse kicking a face before doing a crotch chop and running up the ramp with his tongue out. He was an excellent example of a mid carder elevating the whole stable because he could carry a story line. He was small, face and had the right kind of charisma.
'Massively over' is overselling it, imo. He was popular for a bit, but I'd argue part of that was simply just being in D-X.

I don't really agree with your take on 'Shaun', either. Both Shawn and Hunter were great as annoying little shits in the early days of D-X and as a foil to first Bret and then later Austin. D-X started to flounder once they lost Shawn and the world championship (and brought in X-Pac as a Shawn replacement...)

New Age Outlaws and X-Pac both benefited from being in D-X/having Tori around, although they both stuck in/around that faction for far too long. IIRC, Road Dogg and Pac had a match over the 'rights to D-X' which was stupid for a variety of reasons.
Pac has the same problem as Big Show. They're defined by their height and build and there's only a few ways you can use them.
The problem is that Waltman never evolved. About the only thing Little Bitch did was incorporate the Bronco Buster into his moveset. He was still doing the same stupid fake kung-fu noises/hand motions and spinning heel kicks that were revolutionary in 1993 or whenever, but were stale as fuck in the 2000s.
 
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The commoners will be demanding fair and free elections once they see Bayleys big 'ole dumper.
They got this fun little policy of if you protest, you get stripped of all your property (technically all land is owned by the royal family), you lose your citizenship, and you get to spend the rest of your days in a prison, waiting for TB to kill you.

And that is pretty much standard throughout the region. This of course assumes that they don't execute you outright. And usually the charge involves being a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. MB is the boogie man that Gulf Coast countries hate the most.
The world wrestling entertainment now has a office in Saudi

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It's a government policy. In KSA its known as Arabization. In the UAE, it's Emiratization, etc. Companies doing business in their countries are required to open a local office. They also have to provide a couple of no show jobs to citizens (and well connected ones at that). The region is supposed to be tax free effectively for businesses. All the countries are trying to diversify their economy and get citizens to work.

In reality, it's just an unofficial local tax.

Brit bongs bitching about WrestleMania in the KSA is hilarious to me considering that the fucking English Premier League is owned and operated by Arabs, along with Formula One.
 
AAA was genuinely boring as shit, I already don’t care about new day or Natalya or judgement day or the Wyatts or Ethan Page on the main shows. It’s like HHH picked everyone I’d skip or zone out on raw or SD and put them in AAA.

The internal view of AAA in WWE is that it is going to be NXT: South America. Main roster talent will be cycled in and out to generate ticket sales/views.

They've also ruled out trying to compete with CMLL or poach their talent but rather they'll try and sign up and coming wrestlers from the local indie scene who are chasing the "WWE dream" because it's much more cost effective.

TKO as a whole is doing this kind of thing now. UFC cards are flooded with fighters who have had a bunch of fights in tiny regional promotions and they just use the PR machine they have created over the years to make these relative nobodies seem like a big deal.

Just saw a video from the crowd at Worlds Collide of the Saudimania announcement being shown on the 'Tron.

Oof. WWE will make a few million off the show but i'm guessing the entire live audience of one of their PLEs booing and chanting "you sold out" isn't a positive thing. They also didn't have any members of the public in the room for the announcement because they didn't know how they'd react.
 
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Since X-Pac is being mentioned, here is a match between him and Jerry Lynn from Global Wrestling Federation in Texas.


A young Mick Foley wrestled in this company as well. Raven was Johnny Polo. A lot of episodes has him as the color commentator. In this match, Bruce Prichard is on commentary.

I kind of like watching these old feds, seeing people before they made it big.
 
the wife is trying to buy some Danhausen merch off pro wrestling tees
does their site always run so slow or is it something currently wrong
 
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the wife is trying to buy some Danhausen merch off pro wrestling tees
does their site always run so slow or is it something currently wrong
PWTees is run by shitheads and local Chicago indie wrestlers(or at least it was last time I paid attention to them), so there's always something wrong. Maybe they have to board up their windows again from another peaceful protest.
 
The IWC amuses me when they first say, "Wrestling is for everyone!" and then say, "Except for the Middle East fans." I bet they are the same people who demand other fandoms stop gatekeeping.
 
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