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hey, i barely post here. but Sabu passing hits real hard. barbed wire hugs for all. worked some dirt shows and grew up with him as an inspiration. fuck bros. Very sad day IMG_20250512_190005~2.webp
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I get where you're coming from, but I wouldn't say that "none" of them got their due. The Dudleys were crazy over in WWE, and the same could be said for RVD. Rhino and Tajiri did okay for themselves imo. Even Taz, considering that he was 5 feet tall and had a bad neck, came in with a strong debut and was eventually given a prominent role as a commentator.

And then there's the sad reality that some of the ECW guys, like Sabu (RIP), were unreliable druggies who couldn't wrestle the WWE style, and didn't really look the part. They just didn't have much value to WWE.
You're right, I stand corrected. I should have said neither RVD nor Sabu.

Sabu was too crazy for them to know how to use him.

RVD was incredibly over and should have been champ, but the weed bust and landing on H's throat in the first EC killed his push.

I'd honestly forgotten about the Dudley's being ECW guys originally, and never paid much attention to Taz. I DID like Tajiri though and he was a great mid-carder.
 
Just a little food for thought, Sabu and Dynamite Kid were both 60 when they died, Sabu for all his botchamania antics was still active to his death and Tommy was basically a sunken husk of himself by his late 30s. It truly is sad another piece of my wrestling past is gone I could've seen Sabu turning more into his Uncle in his later years a little less flippy shit and a little more pencil stabbing.
 
Just a little food for thought, Sabu and Dynamite Kid were both 60 when they died, Sabu for all his botchamania antics was still active to his death and Tommy was basically a sunken husk of himself by his late 30s. It truly is sad another piece of my wrestling past is gone I could've seen Sabu turning more into his Uncle in his later years a little less flippy shit and a little more pencil stabbing.
He took a nasty fall and hit his head hard in his last match. I wonder if that had something to do with his death

I liked Sabu. Had a cool, unique look and gimmick. He did too much dangerous shit but during the ECW days that was how it was, so I can't really blame him. I loved that shit back then, but looking back on it, it was stupid as hell.
 
Oh for fucks sake, I went through years of having to listen to people talk about Neilson numbers and X age demographics against my will. None of that fucking matters because TV ratings are a combo of viewers X advertising revenue, you could have a downright dogshit show with shit numbers but if the advertising is great then it's good for the network. Likewise a show that's got incredible ratings but dogshit advertising revenue can be cut like that.

None of it fucking matters, and to top it off it's unreliable as fuck. Do you genuinely think people who sign up for a Neilson box are people who watch daring programming? It's a fucking miracle wrestling gets ANY ratings from the sort of boring middle class household who has no problem with people spying on their watching habits for like 20 dollars a year. Plus it apparently has issues when people switch between programs, hence why everyone has been chasing that missing WCW demographic which was probably just the exact same people flicking between shows.

There's only two times Neilson ratings have been funny: First when TNA went against Monday Night Raw and ate complete shit, and secondly when AEW fans were convinced they were going to beat WWE's ratings back at the very start of AEW only to gradually start comparing it to NXT and then after THAT was eating shit trying to make anyone give a shit about demo percentages.

But ultimately it doesn't matter, AEW might have been thrashing WWE for 3 years straight for all we know because it's basically an estimate. Cable companies might have better numbers internally but they're not going to share them with anyone but investors. It isn't 1996 anymore, people aren't revolving their daily plans around a fucking TV show when they can just catch clips of it the next day, record it if they have a digital recording box (who the fuck still has those in the year of our lord 2025) or simply pirate it. Or better yet, you could just do the internet wrestling fan thing where you look up the results, pretend you watched it and complain on SquaredCircle.
 
I watched it because I was sitting on my couch and too lazy to get up and it was the only thing on.

It wasn't a crossover. Lois wanted Chris to take up an activity, so the principal suggested wrestling. Chris was supposed to wrestle a kid but instead had a lucha mask on and hit him with a steel chair. Then the principal made an appearance also in a lucha mask. I am guessing the masks are from some AEW talent based on what I've seen but there was no mention of AEW or any wrestler.
 
"Holy crap Lois! I'm more wired than Tony Khan after a coke binge!"
“Aw jeez Lois…This is worse than the time I got caught up in the Jericho Vortex!”
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Well. for starters Jericho is not that ripped. Unless you're talking about binging at your local Dairy Queen. The fish with a miniature steel chair in a fish bowl is a nice touch.
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Joe wasn't used well because he was a broken down husk lmao, like EVERY time it looked like he was geared for a push he'd get injured in the most fucking bizarre way and that'd be that. Getting taken out for months due to getting injured recording footage for the WWE game was just peak Glass Joe. I remember one of his NXT title matches nearly getting abandoned for blood stoppage because he got caught weird and was bleeding all over the place.

It's just funny as hell how he went on Twitter to say "Well actually I wasn't injured badly in TNA, that's just misinformation" shortly after being cut by the WWE only to go straight to AEW and get injured the SECOND he gets a good push.

Granted he did have some great matches post-TNA but trying to align the stars was ridiculous. I'm just glad we got Brock vs Joe before he chipped a tooth and was out for 3 years or something like that.
 
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