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That was the first time he got shipped to the minor yes? If i remember right he was back down in Memphis and had a rematch with the Hulkster. (Had to check it was on 07 the fantasy he was.)
 
Logan Paul is claiming that he has retired from wrestling and Hangman has used this opportunity to state that he hopes someone else cooler than Logan gets straight up given half his moveset next time around.

If WWE hasn't actually locked Logan into some sort of long term deal then I could definitely see TK backing up the dump truck to give him millions for a handful of appearances in AEW for maybe 200k extra viewers for a month or so.

TK is ripe to be swindled out of any amount of money at this stage and I don't think WWE will hold any kind of grudge against guys going off the reservation for a year or two to get paid before they come back home. They'll still be on TV and still be recognisable for the time they aren't on Raw or Smackdown so it's almost as if AEW is doing a low level of promotion for your show when they eventually reappear on it.
 
Logan Paul probably got told to lay down on WWE shit after getting slammed the entire year on the public sphere either for being caught doing stupid YT scammer shit or talking about trannies during the Olympics. He loves money more than he loves his family so there's no way he won't return to either WWE or AEW if it makes him money.
 
Isn't Paul doing business with WWE with the Prime drink thing? I don't buy that he's retiring, but there's probably nothing for him right now.

My money is he's taking it easy until the Rumble, where he'll probably do a stunt and depending on who he works with he'll get programmed accordingly.

Giving it a bit more thought, barring a repeat feud with Cody or Roman, the only "money match" I see for Logan currently is CM Punk.
 
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Nicholas II of Russia said:
I think it was just Vince McMahon not knowing what to do with his newly hired WCW star. Of course he would make his existence miserable for a while until they figured out what to do with him, he got some nicknames like the Big Nasty or the Big Nasty Bastard before finally sticking to Big Show.
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BrunoMattei said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=89bCLTv4CgY
This is the only video I could find referring to this short gimmick for Big Show. He would come out as a new character every time and just completely job out and the big man seemed fucking miserable during this period. Is there any backstory to this? Was this punishment for something?

Since the video is just the entrance, Show would get in the ring and announce "I am Shonan, the Barbarian!" And he'd job to someone I forget and he just goes "Fuck it" and grabs the sword and clocks the guy for a DQ.
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This was after he was in the WWF for a year or two. Vince wanted him to lose weight and he didn't, so Vince punished him by doing shit like this
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
What a fucking stupid spot. All that for 2 dozen fans and $20
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see i know john wayne murdoch personally, and i can tell you FOR A FACT, that he got paid much more than twenty bucks...he actually got paid 30 AND 3 unsold hot dogs from the concession stand

trent said:
Logan Paul is claiming that he has retired from wrestling
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we can only hope. He's an absolute shitheel, gimmick and irl. He started wrestling for clout and to push his stupid energy drink. hope he retires into a grave
 
Tism the Return II said:
Logan Paul probably got told to lay down on WWE shit after getting slammed the entire year on the public sphere either for being caught doing stupid YT scammer shit or talking about trannies during the Olympics. He loves money more than he loves his family so there's no way he won't return to either WWE or AEW if it makes him money.
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That's probably true, WWE doesn't want the negative PR for it (understandably so)
Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr. said:
the only "money match" I see for Logan currently is CM Punk.
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my god I can only imagine Punk's promos on him.
 
Interesting quote from Bryan Alvarez on Wrestling Observer Live:

“Do you know how many people I talked to in AEW yesterday, and every last single one of them… ‘aghast’ may not even be the right word… ‘appalled’ that Toni Storm’s return is on Rampage.”

“I swear to god this is true – you could have had 200 people lined up outside Tony Khan’s door last night, one by one, all 200 of them could have gone in there and said, ‘This idea is stupid’, and do you wanna know what’d happen at the end of the night? He’d have still done it, because that’s what happens. People argue things with him every single week, and at the end of the day, he does whatever he wants.”
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Even Alvarez seems to be firmly in the anti-Tony camp these days.
 
Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr. said:
Reading this made me realize Pete's gimmick is being mad and unable to let go of the fact Vince gave him a shit gimmick/name. :story:
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To be fair, Dunne needs to eat a dick if he hates the Butch gimmick. The Butch outfit was awesome looking, especially compared to Pete's shitty NXT garb and his character as a rabid dog type way more interesting than his generic shitter. It was a classic "broken clock is right once a day" moment for Vince.

Well Intentioned said:
I gotta call bullshit on this because I can't think that the Snowman anticipated getting CM Punk, Brodie Lee dying, Cody landing like a wet fart/going back to WWE, etc.

I think he had a basic idea for Hangman getting a 'big win' and maybe some broad strokes shit, but 5 years 'mapped out'? Nah.
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From what's been whispered, the plan as it were was Kenny drops the belt to Hangman and Hangman holding the belt hostage until Kenny got healed up at long last and dropping the belt back to Kenny.

But Tony's ability to fucking adapt to shit happening has been hit or miss as far as being a coin toss if he'll adapt and change on the fly or if he'll speed run shit to finish early or put everything on fucking pause until he gets everything "just right" even if the delay destroys everyone's momentum and fucks things up because they waited too late
 
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Never Scored said:
Interesting quote from Bryan Alvarez on Wrestling Observer Live:



Even Alvarez seems to be firmly in the anti-Tony camp these days.
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He's put his biggest stars on Rampage a good bit in recent months which is doubly stupid because nobody watches even because of that anyway and it is being cancelled early next year so trying to rehab it is pointless.

The likes of Toni, Ospeary or pretty much any of their top tier champs shouldn't be on the failing C show because it is devaluing them.
 
He’d have still done it, because that’s what happens. People argue things with him every single week, and at the end of the day, he does whatever he wants
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You mean the billionaire owner of the company has final say on how things go? What the fuck are these idiots expecting, lmao.

Gaze not into the Vince lest ye become the Vince yourself.

MirrorNoir said:
From what's been whispered, the plan as it were was Kenny drops the belt to Hangman and Hangman holding the belt hostage until Kenny got healed up at long last and dropping the belt back to Kenny.
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I was talking about Hangman's original title win which was supposed to make him a star (it didn't) and other guys who had momentum losing it.

I could believe that he had that planned out. But that was like, what, a year, year and a half or so accounting for Covid/injuries, etc, of stories?

Five years worth of booking would've ran from about 2018-2023. I think you could see a general stretch of where things were a bit more tightly booked and entertaining, which I think were guys like Jericho, Cody, the Bucks, etc. legitimately helping Tony get his head around running a wrestling show.

You also had guys like Tully Blanchard, Arn Anderson, and Jake Roberts were also helping out behind the scenes and 2/3 of them are no longer with the company and Jake has been seemingly underutilized. Gives me the sense that the Snowman grew too big for his britches and started calling the shots (which, again, his prerogative.)
 
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It's time for it to all go on Youtube.
 
MirrorNoir said:
To be fair, Dunne needs to eat a dick if he hates the Butch gimmick. The Butch outfit was awesome looking, especially compared to Pete's shitty NXT garb and his character as a rabid dog type way more interesting than his generic shitter. It was a classic "broken clock is right once a day" moment for Vince.
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his gimmick should be "the most miserable man in the world" i've never seen the man grin, smile, smirk, simper, leer, nothing. man just stares at you with this look on his face like he smelled the worst fart on the planet and knows it came from you. or a father thats constantly disappointed. I've never seen anyone look so unhappy about anything
 
Heard recently that Smackdown will be moving to Netflix in January but only in the UK, thankfully VPN’s still work to switch locations though.

Netflix we already pay for so I’m fine with Raw moving there, if Peacock keeps their whole WWE catalogue will still do that, but in the US next year Smackdown will stay on USA.
 
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