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BONECRUSHER said:
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Vinny Mac cannot be stopped.


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Is vince's shit a natural aphrodisiac or something?
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I will admit when I’m wrong. I shat on Punk for months and while I do agree that he is a fake woke sperg…I was wrong about the whole elite and AEW situation.
Looking at him in this interview, i can see he isn’t lying. Perhaps he caused the Brawl Out problem but he didn’t cause the Brawl In problem.

Let it be known on this day that I admit I was wrong about some aspect of CM Punk.
https://youtu.be/y6xQo-bko00?si=NshAv6Ih7Lz8Sec3
 
I know that this was from 2003, but remember that feud between Kane and Shane? What if instead, Kane vs Kevin Nash? Yeah, someone will say they faced off in a 6 man tag back in 2002, but what if instead of Shane McMahon avenging Linda, it is Big Daddy Cool himself that does it, maybe it goes as such; after his attack on Kane, he retaliates by costing him the World Title at Summerslam, at the same time injuring him, so he can go off to film 2004's The Punisher. He then comes back to do stuff like set Kane on fire or send him on that limo ride, and Bischoff just suspends him so Nash can have his fewer dates except on PPVs or be the one put Test on the shelf. Could this have been good as it sounds?
 
Steinercard said:
I think it's poetry in motion that Roman kept hanging the Rock over WWE's head like a carrot for so long only to have the Rock completely upstage and unintentionally bury "the Tribal Chief". No one gives a fuck about Roman vs Cody anymore. Normalfags just want to see Cody vs the Rock. It's amazing what even a broken down gassed up ballsack looking Dwayne can do over Roman. Not that that's hard. Roman has the charisma of a post op tranny trying to convince you he's a woman whilst fighting the pain from his gash wound.


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This is blatantly trying to make Roman look good and it's failing.
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It seems they may be pivoting the Roman/Rock match to SummerSlam if Cody finishes his story. If the latter happens, I wouldn't mind seeing Roman reenact this moment with his cousins on the Raw after WM.

 
CyrusHowler said:
Sounds to me like Jungle Jack was cool with it when he was told no, and The Bucks got in his ear.
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if the almost-was who got bilked by some ska guys was shitting up my buddy's thing at work I'd advise buddy to tell almost-was to go screw

"once was a larger fish in a big pond" still means you're an also-ran like all the other people who fled to the smaller pond
 
I don't mind that Bray Wyatt existed or that he gets a docu and is generally exalted as "gone too soon" but it's more than a bit of a stretch to claim he "changed the industry"
he certainly didn't invent doing goofy batshit wrasslekino, and beyond that his stuff had issues connecting "here is a really cool idea" with "here is wrasslin"

he's more of "a bold vision" and other shit
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
I don't mind that Bray Wyatt existed or that he gets a docu and is generally exalted as "gone too soon" but it's more than a bit of a stretch to claim he "changed the industry"
he certainly didn't invent doing goofy batshit wrasslekino, and beyond that his stuff had issues connecting "here is a really cool idea" with "here is wrasslin"

he's more of "a bold vision" and other shit
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Tbh I think his issues were definitely more ith creative fucking him than anything he was basically always over but they refused to just not make him lose every time it might actually matter and no matter how much fans clearly clambered for them to pull the trigger swamp cult bray kept getting the rug pulled out from under him whenever he got any momentum the fiend was derailed by the most retarded booking ever like the worst hell in a cell match ever being fed to goldberg and orton for no good reason and all that Alexa bliss shit amd his last run got cut unfortunately short before we ever really got to see where it would go
 
Kaizer Ghidorah said:
Tbh I think his issues were definitely more ith creative fucking him than anything he was basically always over but they refused to just not make him lose every time it might actually matter and no matter how much fans clearly clambered for them to pull the trigger swamp cult bray kept getting the rug pulled out from under him whenever he got any momentum the fiend was derailed by the most retarded booking ever like the worst hell in a cell match ever being fed to goldberg and orton for no good reason and all that Alexa bliss shit amd his last run got cut unfortunately short before we ever really got to see where it would go
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if you need to win to be over you're not over
but yeah some of that is needing to see it through to... whatever the fuck it was headed to, but when Impact went nuts it had a clear "and then they wrestle in the underworld" or whatever
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
if you need to win to be over you're not over,
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I mean all I'm saying is if you're supposed to be a threatening monster type or even just an upper carder you need to actually win matches for that to work I doubt the undertaker would have worked half as well if he constantly lost in big feuds or Austin or rock or Foley or hogan or... I mean this exact same thing happened to the big show and kane both big monster types who became complete jokes that would always lose when it mattered to the "real stars"
 
Kaizer Ghidorah said:
I mean all I'm saying is if you're supposed to be a threatening monster type or even just an upper carder you need to actually win matches for that to work I doubt the undertaker would have worked half as well if he constantly lost in big feuds or Austin or rock or Foley or hogan or... I mean this exact same thing happened to the big show and kane both big monster types who became complete jokes that would always lose when it mattered to the "real stars"
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yeah if his whole thing is SPOOOKY CORRUPTION and he never really corrupts or does anything that hurts it, but again, it circles back to the core question that should be asked at the start of all angles and gimmicks "and then this leads to competitive wrasslin because... ?"
setting up a guy who literally can't lose is maybe an okay idea in like, 1989 or so, but even Lucha Underground had trouble keeping momentum on a dude who's supposed to be THE ULTIMATE DEATH THING OF DOOM once you have to have him in weekly competition and still keep the show going other than "dude kills everybody. the end"
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
yeah if his whole thing is SPOOOKY CORRUPTION and he never really corrupts or does anything that hurts it, but again, it circles back to the core question that should be asked at the start of all angles and gimmicks "and then this leads to competitive wrasslin because... ?"
setting up a guy who literally can't lose is maybe an okay idea in like, 1989 or so, but even Lucha Underground had trouble keeping momentum on a dude who's supposed to be THE ULTIMATE DEATH THING OF DOOM once you have to have him in weekly competition and still keep the show going other than "dude kills everybody. the end"
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I mean why did Cena at the height of his super Cena staleness need to literally bury Bray and just shrug off all the factually true things said about him even as a huge undertaker mark why did Taker need to beat the new spooky character they were trying to build up when he was close to on his way out why did Orton need to completely bury bray on 2 separate occasions and especially why did a well over the hill Goldberg need the universal title over this unstoppable monster you're supposed to be building up all I'm saying is if bray had won those feuds I think he would genuinely have been in a much better place as a character than the common story of wasted talent that epitomizes late stage Vince era WWE we got ultimately
 
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