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He also told me his entire life story. I think he was struggling to process everything he was going through.

My takeaway was that he was clearly autistic, had been bullied a lot for being a feminine kid, and is probably gay. I wish there was a healthier way to handle all that. I also think women, in general, are kinder to these guys, so they think they connect better with "other girls".
That's an interesting thought. It's like a woman who has only male friends. That usually means she is incapable of relating to women and instead leverages her sex appeal for attention.

I think the first half would go for these type of men, that they're incapable of relating to men. But instead of being able to leverage sex appeal, they leverage women's indiscriminate kindness.

Both receive scorn from it from their own gender. I think that these type of men think that transitioning will give them a kind of shield from it, which is half true if you look at how popular media tries to shield them and go after critics.

I still remember I had a social media account and it kept getting banned and I recreated it with different names until I put "trans" in front of the name. I still acted the same. But instead of getting banned in a day, it's been up for years. So weird. Numerous examples in media anyways like with zoey turr.
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So in the same way that women regard a woman without female friends as a threat, while she says things like "I just like to sit on a guys lap" and makes injokes that his wife or girlfriend wasn't present at, men regard a guy like this a threat, among other things, to the safety of those women.

Like transitioning makes it worse, most of the time. Now he wants to get treated like women get treated. With a mild disdain perhaps, but also with the privileges that come with it.
 
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Another week another 2 friends fallen to the titty skittles. Or well, first 2 in absolute years. One is already on the brink and the other is like, lazy about it? Seems more gay than anything. Depressing he'd even consider HRT really, as if it's the ultimate goal for anyone born male and feminine.
My takeaway was that he was clearly autistic, had been bullied a lot for being a feminine kid, and is probably gay. I wish there was a healthier way to handle all that. I also think women, in general, are kinder to these guys, so they think they connect better with "other girls".
Even this 'gay friend' trope is damaging, because the fat unattractive gay guys who already don't have male friends get groomed into believing they've got a chance at safety with girls, who most of the time in their teens are even more evil. All the gay friends of girls in media these days are hyper flamboyant, can take and serve lip and generally have a spine.
I still remember I had a social media account and it kept getting banned and I recreated it with different names until I put "trans" in front of the name. I still acted the same. But instead of getting banned in a day, it's been up for years. So weird. Numerous examples in media anyways like with zoey turr.
Oh, is that why every single trans person Ive seen on Reddit calls themselves something absurdly female but also blatantly trans? QueenVixen, Roxanne, LovelyAlice etc. Of course not, but it's a funny trend in how they overcompensate. Also interesting how FtM people tend to have super common names by comparison. Jack is a bit of a 'cool kid' name but certainly more normal than Roxanne.
once I went out to dinner with one, who got upset and pounded on our table, and everything in my body instantly went into fight or flight mode. Something primitive in my brain absolutely viewed that person as a man with male-strength and male danger-levels when angry, and no amount of convincing is gonna change that.
I've had the same experience. I grew up with a sister and we fought a lot, but mostly just a bitch slap or a pinch. Whatever. I didn't ever experience physical confrontation to any degree for 10-12 years until I met a trans chick who'd bang holes in the drywall or hit themselves in the head. You could call it a temper tantrum, sure, but it also just struck me as something so intensely male. Like they knew they wouldn't pass or ever be happy so all they could do was be physical (manly) and take it out on other things.
 
QueenVixen, Roxanne, LovelyAlice etc. Of course not, but it's a funny trend in how they overcompensate. Also interesting how FtM people tend to have super common names by comparison. Jack is a bit of a 'cool kid' name but certainly more normal than Roxanne

I think they're both still acting out their own biological programming. MtF are taking risks and trying to be the best at it, sometimes resulting in the almost unbelievable, mostly resulting in hilarity and disaster. FtM are playing it safe and not take too many risks.
 
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I think most women who claim to be transgender is just trying to escape femininity and the heavy sexualization that comes with it, indeed. I believe that there are women out there who genuinely want to be a hairy bearded man, but the ones who are just trying to be seem as cute boys are majority.
While I think trying to escape being feminine because society sexualize everything women do as a kinda fair reason for young women being confused about gender, I think everyone needs to talk to a therapist AT LEAST once, because as you said, underlying issues other than gender dysphoria can be the true cause of confusion.
I can get why some dudes would want to be a chick, even beyond dysphoria.
I can't get why some chicks want to be dudes. You have literally all the benefits in the world, bro. YOU HAVE A FUCKING PUSSY AND TITS. Don't sweat it just because you don't fit into supposed gender norms, my dude. Like come on, now. You literally have the jackpot, don't fucking waste it.
Also lurk moar and stop powerlevelling, faggot.

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I think that autogynaphiles have ruined any meaningful examination of "trans" as a medical condition, and search for better solutions besides the modern day lobotomy. The actual term dysphoria is super fucking general and can be applied to all kinds of causes, and instead of encouraging people to get therapy to figure themselves out, people get told "ur trans and perfect" so they don't get help and end up killing themselves at 28 because they haven't resolved any of their issues.

For instance, I once knew a girl who started claiming she was actually trans, and that was why she was so miserable all the time. In truth she also had a traumatic childhood, an abusive mother, and rock bottom self esteem. Instead of dealing with any of those problems, she decided the solution was to be an "uwu softboi". I was not supportive of this and so we drifted apart. The point in all this is that with the widening "acceptance" of trans as some sort of mental cure all that is super great, vulnerable people are ignoring the causes of their problems, and instead seeking refuge in a toxic community that doesn't care about them until they can prop up their dead bodies as a ghoulish way to beg more money from people.

Autogynaphiles/troons are the real issue. They perpetuate a false narrative that a group of people who need serious help are actually totally normal. But because troons have become a protected class, unless you go along with the delusional that Jake Alley looks like Baily Jay, and not a morbidly obese man in a bad wig, YOU are the crazy one.

In conclusion, because troons want to pretend their zero effort larping as a woman makes them look like their favorite tranny pornstar, actual trans people aren't getting help, but are getting dead.
 
So, I’m a woman with a lot of male friends who are hardcore gamers. Like, they enter tournaments frequently for games like League, Smash Bros., Street Fighter, etc, do speedruns and streams and whatnot.

Every other day it seems I wake up to another friend or acquaintance trooning out. One of them told me that they were thinking of naming themselves after me, that I “inspired” them. It gave me chills. I don’t think they’re a bad person or anything, but something about that just...REALLY didn’t sit well with me.

Because I’m female it feels like I’m expected to provide more emotional support to all the transwomen I know, validate them whenever, tell them how pretty they are, listen to them prattle on about how much they love being lesbians etc. It’s getting exhausting. Even after COVID restrictions lift, I don’t know if I wanna return to the tournament scene if I have to walk on eggshells and constantly use “validating” language all day. Live and let live is usually my motto but this goes beyond that. It’s not enough to be friendly and polite, I have to serve as a constant morale booster for these mentally ill individuals.

It’s all so tiring.

I want to play games, get my ass beat and hand others their asses in turn. Not play nurse to asylum inmates.
Start finding actual women to hang out with or move to a less liberal area.
 
Every other day it seems I wake up to another friend or acquaintance trooning out. One of them told me that they were thinking of naming themselves after me, that I “inspired” them. It gave me chills. I don’t think they’re a bad person or anything, but something about that just...REALLY didn’t sit well with me.
That's super-creepy and a sure sign you should stay away from that individual for your own safety. Don't make excuses for somebody like this; you're far too accommodating of borderline criminal behaviour. Trust your instincts. Run and never look back.

And learn to be an asshole. Hanging around 4chan could teach you a trick or two.
 
I think they're both still acting out their own biological programming. MtF are taking risks and trying to be the best at it, sometimes resulting in the almost unbelievable, mostly resulting in hilarity and disaster. FtM are playing it safe and not take too many risks.

It feels like ftms still pick odd names but it’s more like the ones hipster parents name their kids now, romcom lead names or like ones gay men would have. Ones like Skylar, Kai, Xander, Sylas, Ollie, North, Chase, Owyn, Wyatt, Noa, Elliot, Ash, Mycah, Stefan, Jesse, Gabe, Miles, etc. Skylar in particular I’ve seen both from a personal cow and online so it must be pretty common.

It’s probably the typical chick thing of wanting to be a special snowflake and also not wanting to be too masculine because uwu soft boi
 
It feels like ftms still pick odd names but it’s more like the ones hipster parents name their kids now, romcom lead names or like ones gay men would have. Ones like Skylar, Kai, Xander, Sylas, Ollie, North, Chase, Owyn, Wyatt, Noa, Elliot, Ash, Mycah, Stefan, Jesse, Gabe, Miles, etc. Skylar in particular I’ve seen both from a personal cow and online so it must be pretty common.

It’s probably the typical chick thing of wanting to be a special snowflake and also not wanting to be too masculine because uwu soft boi
Troons in general seem to get away with having more unusual names than the normies, be they obscure, hard to pronounce or from another culture (Japanese names on anime obsessed MTFs despite the majority of them being the same people who call out cultural appropriation is a trend I’ve noticed in particular, along with Irish/Gaelic names that sound nothing like they’re spelled). On the r/namenerds subreddit you’ll occasionally see a post from a tranny needing help with choosing a new name and the comments will be “choose whatever feels right for you! uwu” but if someone wants to name a baby something more unusual it’ll be discouraged in favour of something safe, boring and “classic”.
 
So, I’m a woman with a lot of male friends who are hardcore gamers. Like, they enter tournaments frequently for games like League, Smash Bros., Street Fighter, etc, do speedruns and streams and whatnot.

Every other day it seems I wake up to another friend or acquaintance trooning out. One of them told me that they were thinking of naming themselves after me, that I “inspired” them. It gave me chills. I don’t think they’re a bad person or anything, but something about that just...REALLY didn’t sit well with me.

Because I’m female it feels like I’m expected to provide more emotional support to all the transwomen I know, validate them whenever, tell them how pretty they are, listen to them prattle on about how much they love being lesbians etc. It’s getting exhausting. Even after COVID restrictions lift, I don’t know if I wanna return to the tournament scene if I have to walk on eggshells and constantly use “validating” language all day. Live and let live is usually my motto but this goes beyond that. It’s not enough to be friendly and polite, I have to serve as a constant morale booster for these mentally ill individuals.
Fucking hell. Cut that one person right out and tell at least one normie about that behavior. Hell be making plans to wear your skin next the fucking loon.
 
Thankfully I’ve started drifting into more female dominated friend circles lately. Hard to find women who enjoy ‘tism niche hobbies though.

The thing is, though, I really love the community I’ve found in the FGC/competitive gaming scene, as autistic and sausage-y as it can be. It’s just been infected with SocJus and Idpol like everything else. :(

Most communities I was a part of ended up this way. The management gets co-opted by troons or the management troons out. Some old acquaintances recently announced that they're trooning out, and they're also in hardcore gaming. It gets tiring because you're expected to asspat them constantly, they believe they're some anime character unironically or some insane bullshit.

Other than kiwifarms I avoid online communities nowadays and I keep my own circles of friends. Like other people in the thread said, you should stay away from troons.
 
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