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furūtsu said:
So, I’m a woman with a lot of male friends who are hardcore gamers. Like, they enter tournaments frequently for games like League, Smash Bros., Street Fighter, etc, do speedruns and streams and whatnot.

Every other day it seems I wake up to another friend or acquaintance trooning out. One of them told me that they were thinking of naming themselves after me, that I “inspired” them. It gave me chills. I don’t think they’re a bad person or anything, but something about that just...REALLY didn’t sit well with me.

Because I’m female it feels like I’m expected to provide more emotional support to all the transwomen I know, validate them whenever, tell them how pretty they are, listen to them prattle on about how much they love being lesbians etc. It’s getting exhausting. Even after COVID restrictions lift, I don’t know if I wanna return to the tournament scene if I have to walk on eggshells and constantly use “validating” language all day. Live and let live is usually my motto but this goes beyond that. It’s not enough to be friendly and polite, I have to serve as a constant morale booster for these mentally ill individuals.

It’s all so tiring.

I want to play games, get my ass beat and hand others their asses in turn. Not play nurse to asylum inmates.
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Can’t believe I missed this post but fucking yikes. I feel you with the whole being a female gamer surrounded by men as that’s my situation too, it’s hard to find women who like the same shit as me and aren’t put off by my spergy obsession with certain games and dislike of/apathy towards more typical girly things.

Nobody I know personally has trooned out but I did receive a Facebook friend request from someone who knew a few of my friends, had a female name and no selfies, just a profile pic of a dragon, and I added them, not thinking much of it. Turned out to be an old high school classmate of said friends who’d just come out as trans, and also claimed to be polyamorous and have a split personality. He messaged me to ask something about D&D, and since I’m always down to talk nerdy I replied and nothing weird came up in the convo, but just about every post on his wall was either lefty activist nonsense or textbook AGP horny posting - hentai for days, “gender euphoria” from wearing pleated skirts and programmer socks, and yes, the inevitable mention of his “feminine” wang. I unfriended him after seeing him share a meme about receiving oral while playing a video game, and he’d tagged some other troon that he was dating online and captioned it “this is gonna be us when we meet up - I’ll be gaming while you go down on my girldick/eventual vagina”. He didn’t seem to notice I deleted him, thankfully, but it was horrifying, especially to know that these people exist in such close proximity to me and aren't just an internet phenomenon.

It’s also disheartening to see trannies, along with their woke feminist defenders, become the face of women in some fandoms that are already male dominated - in the WH40k thread I listed off a bunch of notable female fans, all of which are either troons or just woke types with pronouns and sexuality in bio. Just the other day I discovered yet another troon in the fandom when looking for a stream of Dark Heresy. The receding hairline was an immediate giveaway even before he opened his mouth to speak. Like dammit I just want to enjoy my grimdark without having to run into identity politics.
 
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Trannies, furries, and otherkin are all just engaging in applied tulpamancy. They create a fictional personality, a partition in their mind, and imbue it with so much belief that it overcomes the rest of them.

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Longcat said:
Can’t believe I missed this post but fucking yikes. I feel you with the whole being a female gamer surrounded by men as that’s my situation too, it’s hard to find women who like the same shit as me and aren’t put off by my spergy obsession with certain games and dislike of/apathy towards more typical girly things.

Nobody I know personally has trooned out but I did receive a Facebook friend request from someone who knew a few of my friends, had a female name and no selfies, just a profile pic of a dragon, and I added them, not thinking much of it. Turned out to be an old high school classmate of said friends who’d just come out as trans, and also claimed to be polyamorous and have a split personality. He messaged me to ask something about D&D, and since I’m always down to talk nerdy I replied and nothing weird came up in the convo, but just about every post on his wall was either lefty activist nonsense or textbook AGP horny posting - hentai for days, “gender euphoria” from wearing pleated skirts and programmer socks, and yes, the inevitable mention of his “feminine” wang. I unfriended him after seeing him share a meme about receiving oral while playing a video game, and he’d tagged some other troon that he was dating online and captioned it “this is gonna be us when we meet up - I’ll be gaming while you go down on my girldick/eventual vagina”. He didn’t seem to notice I deleted him, thankfully, but it was horrifying, especially to know that these people exist in such close proximity to me and aren't just an internet phenomenon.

It’s also disheartening to see trannies, along with their woke feminist defenders, become the face of women in some fandoms that are already male dominated - in the WH40k thread I listed off a bunch of notable female fans, all of which are either troons or just woke types with pronouns and sexuality in bio. Just the other day I discovered yet another troon in the fandom when looking for a stream of Dark Heresy. The receding hairline was an immediate giveaway even before he opened his mouth to speak. Like dammit I just want to enjoy my grimdark without having to run into identity politics.
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I don't get what it is with these degenerates and their gender euphoria. I saw a troon recently publicly begging other people to do sexual things to him and how horny his medication made him feel. They're almost always "lesbians" and believe they're anime.
Erischan said:
Trannies, furries, and otherkin are all just engaging in applied tulpamancy. They create a fictional personality, a partition in their mind, and imbue it with so much belief that it overcomes the rest of them.

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So we have trannies making anime tulpas, anime girls that are perfect in every way and don't poop. Except when it comes to having behavior towards other people, then they're just awful human beings.
 
The Transgender-Industrial Complex

Women Are Human shares with our readers the following excerpt from Dr. Heather Brunskell-Evans’s newly released book Transgender Body Politics, published by Spinifex Press. More of her work can be seen at http://www.heather-brunskell-evans.co.uk, including her paper “The Medico-Legal ‘Making’ of ‘The Transgender Child’,” published by Oxford University Press in the Medical Law Review in Autumn 2019. With Dr Michele Moore, Brunskell-Evans has edited two collections: Transgender Children and Young People: Born in Your Own Body (2018 ) and Inventing Transgender Children and Young People (2019).

Most people think the ‘transgender’ or ‘gender identity’ movements are about accommodating people with a debilitating condition. But they are actually an industry that creates medical identities out of sex, while simultaneously mounting active campaigns to deconstruct sexual dimorphism within the law. Transgenderism is a multi-billion dollar industry, disguised as a civil rights movement, or what the journalist Jennifer Bilek describes as “big business dressed up in civil rights clothes” (Bilek, 2018a). It constructs medical identities that harm children and steals funding and focus from women’s authentic civil rights (Bilek, 2020). To follow the money, Bilek takes us to the root of the ‘gender identity’ industry, where she found that exceedingly rich, white men with enormous cultural influence are funding the transgender lobby and various transgender organisations: Jennifer Pritzker, Jon Stryker, and George Soros (Bilek, 2019). Michael Biggs describes ‘The Gender Industrial Complex’ as receiving lucrative sponsorship from pharmaceutical companies and medical providers (Biggs, 2018b). He, like Bilek (2018 ), points out that three American billionaires have bankrolled the transgender movement on a global scale. The Open Society Foundations (OSF), funded by George Soros, has spent three million dollars between 2011 and 2013 on trans issues to promote the transgender movement which made it the top funder, followed by Stryker’s Arcus Foundation and Pritzker’s TAWANI Foundation (Open Society Foundations 2020; Bilek, 2018; Biggs, 2018b).

To illustrate the difference that money can make, Biggs asks us to consider the commemoration of the victims of violence. The OSF gave US$500,000 to Transgender Europe in the past two years. Transgender Europe also received one million dollars from the Arcus Foundation from 2010 to 2017. The organisation’s projects include the Transgender Day of Remembrance, which is underpinned by a comprehensive database of victims throughout the world, Trans Murder Monitoring. This database counted 325 victims of violence from October 2016 to September 2017 (Trans Respect Rather Than Transphobia Worldwide, 2017). The great majority of these occurred in Central and South America. There were only three in Western Europe, and thankfully none in the United Kingdom. Surprisingly, perhaps, the Transgender Day of Remembrance was widely observed in Britain in November 2017. In many universities, for example, candles were lit for each of the victims, the transgender flag was raised, speakers were invited, and services held (Biggs, 2018b). I can testify to this student commemoration of the Transgender Day of Remembrance with an example from my own experience. I had been invited to the University of Bristol by the University Free Speech Society in November 2018 to give a lecture on the curtailment of free speech in the academy, giving the example of the incipient erasure in universities of any other than an affirmative view of ‘gender identity.’ Trans activist students interrupted my talk, taking over the lecture theatre and attempted to read out all the names of those murdered before eventually being removed by the security guards who had been specifically commissioned to protect me that evening (Ross, 2017).

As Biggs points out, while no transgender person was murdered in the United Kingdom in 2017, 138 women were killed by men, including murders where a man was the principal suspect (Smith, 2017). These data were compiled by Karen Ingala Smith, who receives no funding for her work. She started recording women’s deaths in 2009, under the rubric of Counting Dead Women. This was developed into the Femicide Census―in partnership with Women’s Aid―with minimal funding and pro bono support from two legal firms (Femicide Census, 2016). Despite her diligent research over many years, this has left barely a trace in British universities. More than a hundred women are murdered each year in the United Kingdom at the hands of males, but no day has been set aside to commemorate their deaths. Transgender murders are exceedingly rare – eight in the past decade (Trans Crime UK, 2017) – and yet they have an institutionalized day of remembrance. Even if we consider the homicide rate rather than the number of homicides, Nicola Williams demonstrates that transgender people are no more likely to become victims than are women (Fair Play for Women, 2017a).

The prominence of transgender victims, compared to the virtual invisibility of female victims, is partly explained by the amount of resources devoted to compiling evidence and promoting commemoration. Thus, as Biggs demonstrates, funding from large American charities like OSF – along with the Arcus and TAWANI Foundations – shapes the political climate in Britain and around the world (Biggs, 2018b). Transgenderism is a capitalist enterprise driven by the pharmaceutical industry (Bilek, 2018 ). Over the past decade, there has been an explosion in transgender medical infrastructure across the United States and world to ‘treat’ transgender people. The massive medical and technological infrastructure expansion for a tiny (but growing) fraction of the population, along with the money being funneled into the transgender project by those heavily invested in the medical and technology industries, means that doctors are being trained in all manner of surgeries related to transgender individuals, including phalloplasty, vaginoplasty, facial feminisation surgery, urethral procedures, and more. Manufacturing puberty blockers for children and young people is another growing and extremely lucrative market. With the medical infrastructure being built, doctors being trained for various surgeries, clinics opening at speed, and the media celebrating it, transgenderism is poised for further growth (Bilek, 2018 ).

In the UK, lobby organisations have become businesses that receive a substantial percentage of their funding from the UK Government or other statutory bodies (see Stonewall, 2020b). Michael Biggs tells us that Gendered Intelligence started as a company with a grant of £50,000 from the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC). Now most of its revenue comes from selling training to the public sector, including universities, boosted by monies from BBC Children in Need (Biggs, 2018c). Stephanie Davies-Arai (2019) informs us that Stonewall is the most powerful and influential LGBT organisation in the UK, with an income of £8.7 million in 2018, including a £233,673 grant from the Department for Education. Gary Powell, Conservative Party Councillor and erstwhile gay rights activist, says that although Stonewall began as a worthy institution fighting for homosexual rights, “its cash registers have become frenetic” (Powell, 2020). In 2018, its most senior employee earned a six-figure salary, and it received £610,000 in grant income from Government sources, with a fee income of £2,731,000 that included payments from local authorities for its workplace Diversity Champions and Secondary Schools Champions programmes (Powell, 2020).

In 2015, Stonewall and similar western charities “bolted trans rights on to their LGB campaigns, even though gender identity has nothing to do with sexual orientation.” With legal equality for LGB people successfully achieved in the west, Powell argues these charities needed new victims and causes to maintain their cash flow. He points out that “‘Gender identity’ ideology was ideal: between 2014 and 2018, Stonewall’s turnover increased by 61 per cent” (Powell, 2020). In summary, the money invested by rich men, governments, technology, and pharmaceutical corporations effectively normalises transgenderism as a lifestyle choice. The micro-politics and the macro-politics of ‘identity’ interact to form one of the most misogynistic expressions of patriarchy in recent times under the guise of equality, diversity, and inclusion.

Transgenderism is positioned as a social justice movement, a medical condition, and as a minority rights issue needing protection from our political structures. It intersects at every juncture of the global marketplace and is so indelibly tied to the capitalist marketplace and celebrity culture that it is used to sell fashion, makeup, hormones, surgery, films, TV series, mental health treatments, and women’s underwear, while concurrently being invested in by billionaire philanthropists, the technology and pharmaceutical industries, major corporations, and banks (Bilek, 2018a).

Excerpted from Transgender Body Politics, by Heather Brunskell-Evans, pp. 143-148. Copyright © 2020 by Heather Brunskell-Evans. Reprinted by permission of Spinifex Press.
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Question for my Kiwis :biggrin:

Anyone heard of the French-Egyptian singer "Dalida"?? - she was some BIG deal in France (think Madonna fame, expect more classy)... had tons of hits and all that. Some nice songs if you like that kind of 1960s pop stuff.

Well to cut it short, she is noted for committing suicide in 1987 after battles with 'depression'. AND every man she had dated committed suicide at some-point... and also get this... she claimed to have had a dodgy surgery that made her unable to carry babies.... yeah...

And she had massive shoulders... big blokey shoulders... and a very mannish face. I was basically thinking the alleged op that fucked up her ovaries was actually just SRS and the boyfriends necked themselves because of the embarrassment/guilt of keeping it under wraps.

OR

Could it just be POCS and being a bit of a manly kinda girl, who also happened to have her ovaries mangled in some operation?


Here are some pics:
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BIG shoulders, hairy arms and big hands...

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gigachad jaw/chin.

SO like anyway, can anyone shed some light? I've googled and found a few threads on other forums of people debating, but i guess we will never know as all of her intimate partners are dead and she never had any children....

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That's a woman, they didn't have Photoshop then and the only thing that makes me think she might be trans was the suicide.
 
can't breef said:
Question for my Kiwis :biggrin:

Anyone heard of the French-Egyptian singer "Dalida"?? - she was some BIG deal in France (think Madonna fame, expect more classy)... had tons of hits and all that. Some nice songs if you like that kind of 1960s pop stuff.

Well to cut it short, she is noted for committing suicide in 1987 after battles with 'depression'. AND every man she had dated committed suicide at some-point... and also get this... she claimed to have had a dodgy surgery that made her unable to carry babies.... yeah...

And she had massive shoulders... big blokey shoulders... and a very mannish face. I was basically thinking the alleged op that fucked up her ovaries was actually just SRS and the boyfriends necked themselves because of the embarrassment/guilt of keeping it under wraps.

OR

Could it just be POCS and being a bit of a manly kinda girl, who also happened to have her ovaries mangled in some operation?


Here are some pics:
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BIG shoulders, hairy arms and big hands...

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gigachad jaw/chin.

SO like anyway, can anyone shed some light? I've googled and found a few threads on other forums of people debating, but i guess we will never know as all of her intimate partners are dead and she never had any children....

:cunningpepe:

- also one of the images squished down, if you click it the aspect ratio goes back to normal
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She looks very mannish in a number of pictures. Digit length is an indicator of testosterone levels in the womb.

"She" has a second digit that is shorter than the fourth, an indicator of high testosterone.

Small breasts, narrow hips, mannish hands and jawline. I dunno it's possible.

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Has anyone read that new book "Irreversible Damage" that was at the center of a brief media kerfuffle?

I haven't been able to find any serious reviews of it. Just a bunch of right-wingers yelling "PREACH IT", and a few Tumblr people (yeah lol) suggesting its engagement with the scientific literature was a bit sloppy, in between cries of "REEEEE". Wondering if it's worth a read.
 
The author, Abigail Shrier spoke to Joe Rogan about the book:


It was the Shrier episode that caused the hooha at Spotify.


i’ve not read it, but I’ve listened to quite a few of her promo interviews. Probably will read it at some point. Was kinda hoping that a second edition might come out via a different publisher (although I totally understand why she went with whoever would take on the project, not easy to find companies willing to risk woke ire at the moment).
 
Apparently giving birth nolonger makes you a woman

A transgender man has lost his legal battle to be registered as his child’s father or parent in the UK after the supreme court refused to consider his final appeal.
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Freddy McConnell, a 34-year-old freelance journalist who works for the Guardian, gave birth in 2018 after suspending his hormone treatment. He had hoped to challenge an appeal court ruling this spring that motherhood is defined as being pregnant and giving birth regardless of whether the person who does so was considered a man or a woman in law.

The decision not to consider his case is a blow for LGBTQ+ rights campaigners. The case was seen as key by the campaign group Stonewall, which hoped that the law would recognise all parents “for who they are”.
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Well at least the judges had some sanity, how is this "a blow" ? She is a women, she has a vagina people need to get a grip, I feel terrible for the kid to be honest

 
bluegenius8585 said:
Apparently giving birth nolonger makes you a woman




Well at least the judges had some sanity, how is this "a blow" ? She is a women, she has a vagina people need to get a grip, I feel terrible for the kid to be honest

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It's important for doctors to know who plopped the kid out because some things are inheritable only through the mom. Listing two dads could lead to the doctors thinking its a gay couple and misquestioning what the child's surrogate was like, and reversing the order could lead to the geneology fucking up. Poor kid indeed.
 
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