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Spooky Bones said:
Orap (pimozide). Evidence isn't spectacular but it has worked for people.
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But that's for legit body dysphoria and delusions. Twitter non-binaries probably don't have it. Pills to combat anxiety and OCD would probably be enough.
P.S. You can easily get them as well as meds for treating depression from your GP too (depending on where you live, of course). You don't even need to lie. Much.
 
Harbinger of Kali Yuga said:
I would caution people against assuming that because a strong majority of trannies or whatever are X, that all trannies are like that.

I think most trannies are transtrenders with mental disorders but I think there are legit trans people out there. The question is, how many, and what is making them feel that way from a very early age? We know that gender and sex ARE linked and that boys naturally as boys want to do boy things and generally play with dumptrucks over barbie dolls, so why do some people in childhood feel the opposite of their birth gender? I do not know, but just because the left wing is insane and posturing tolerance while encouraging people to identify as trans so they can feel more accepting does not mean there aren't legitimately trans people out there. I don't really know for sure, and I do think most transgenderism is "iatrogenic," like diagnoses like DID/MPD which are not what they appear to be on the face of it surrounded by a lot of bullshit.

I think a real potential tragedy over the left's eagerness to produce transgender individuals to wage a war on sex and gender is the fact that actual real trannies-with-the-wrong-switch-in-their-brain like the recent poster end up being further marginalized as, giving the poster the benefit of the doubt here, they're not merely narcissists with a cornucopia of personality disorders but people with something real and biological going on. The transtrenders have muddled the discussion and corrupted the science so much it's impossible to say--as the modern tranny movement, composed of transtrenders, has stated that you're trans if you merely want to be trans for whatever reason at all.

Newer research on schizophrenia shows that it's not a singular mental disorder, but a far more complicated set of distinct disorders working together. There are different types of schizophrenia on top of that, too, such a paranoid schizophrenics or catatonic schizophrenics. We must be careful how we view mental disorders and what they really are, There may be different biological/social markers for people being trans -- there may be biological trannies, and then a group of people who also identify as such more motivated by personality disorders and social/environemntal presssures.

To edgeedgnedgy: You will probably not find love, but that's true of a lot of us normal straight males here as women of our generation have been corrupted and most of them have gone insufferably woke, to say the very least. It's no picnic for us normal regular dudes either.
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That's incel level bullshit. I see plenty of men in their 20s/30s got themselves a woman.

Shave, shower (on a daily basis), get a job and get off the computer.

Ditch the weirdo fringe political bullshit opinions and woe-is-me attitude, and you too will find a good woman to eventually call your wife.

Just this aashole's thoughts.
 
cowisnow said:
That's incel level bullshit. I see plenty of men in their 20s/30s got themselves a woman.

Shave, shower (on a daily basis), get a job and get off the computer.

Ditch the weirdo fringe political bullshit opinions and woe-is-me attitude, and you too will find a good woman to eventually call your wife.

Just this aashole's thoughts.
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Definitely not an incel and getting laid.

I definitely could get a girl, and a pretty one at that, and I'm not bragging, but they're never really close to what I'm looking for in a partner, though at this point I am thinking I need to give up on that dream and settle.

I'm not even really thinking of myself, just the numbers. KF is composed primarily male, and it is men that lean far more conservative and libertarian. Millennial women, as a wide generalization, have embraced radical left wing politics, or their brains have entirely been swallowed up by the worst parts of pop culture (rap music, superhero shit, etc). I don't think there are simply enough good women to go around for all the non-soyboys out there. There are simply more reasonable men out there than there are reasonable women. Less incel, and more misogynist, I supposed, but it took a lot of dealing with women to get here.
 
Longcat said:
The issue is a lot of these girls don’t actually want to be male per se, when it comes down to it they really just want to be (what they perceive as) de-sexualised beings free from societal expectations, and while many of them conflate this with being men, others just go non-binary and start by cutting their hair and wearing binders as a way to escape their dreaded femininity. They think hormones will solve their problems but don’t stop to think about the side effects, and though at first the idea of body hair all over and a freaky enlarged clitoris might not bother them, many of them want to be the “soft boy” archetype that’s popular among teenage fandom circles, and get upset when they end up as hairy baboons like their male relatives.

I was raised by a super left wing family and was the prime age to be targeted by this gender crap when it was just getting started, and growing up I received rather mixed messages about what life is like for a woman living in current year - on one hand I was told “women are strong and smart and can do anything men do” with an extra helping of uterus worshipping moon goddess hippie insanity, on the other “the streets out there are full of potential rapists, never trust men, you could always be targeted” and all that along with me being the quiet awkward kid who wasn’t interested in dating any of the boys in my year and couldn’t relate to my peers, and an active tumblr account, led me to be super ashamed of my body and I didn’t want any physical characteristics that could pigeonhole me as “female”. So I came out as non binary and wanted a mastectomy and hysterectomy, but not testosterone as I didn’t want to be a man, just escape from the warped idea of womanhood I viewed as a prison. Grew out of it after realising there were mental health issues underpinning it and getting the help I needed, but I wouldn’t be surprised if many of these young women seek transition because they’re going through the same feelings as my younger self.
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I think most women who claim to be transgender is just trying to escape femininity and the heavy sexualization that comes with it, indeed. I believe that there are women out there who genuinely want to be a hairy bearded man, but the ones who are just trying to be seem as cute boys are majority.
While I think trying to escape being feminine because society sexualize everything women do as a kinda fair reason for young women being confused about gender, I think everyone needs to talk to a therapist AT LEAST once, because as you said, underlying issues other than gender dysphoria can be the true cause of confusion.
 
@edgeedgnedgy

I can get why some dudes would want to be a chick, even beyond dysphoria.

I can't get why some chicks want to be dudes. You have literally all the benefits in the world, bro. YOU HAVE A FUCKING PUSSY AND TITS. Don't sweat it just because you don't fit into supposed gender norms, my dude. Like come on, now. You literally have the jackpot, don't fucking waste it.

Also lurk moar and stop powerlevelling, faggot.
 
Longcat said:
The thought of an oversized clitoris that resembles a tiny dick and hair everywhere (unless your genetic makeup allows for less body hair) should be enough to scare away any girls considering testosterone, but I guess the uwu validation comes first.
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Promise idiots a complete solution to all their problems in a jar and you'll always get suckers.
 
The Pink Panther said:
@edgeedgnedgy

I can get why some dudes would want to be a chick, even beyond dysphoria.

I can't get why some chicks want to be dudes. You have literally all the benefits in the world, bro. YOU HAVE A FUCKING PUSSY AND TITS. Don't sweat it just because you don't fit into supposed gender norms, my dude. Like come on, now. You literally have the jackpot, don't fucking waste it.

Also lurk moar and stop powerlevelling, faggot.
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Lol... You must be a dude, There's a ton of downsides to being a women - and a decent number to being a man.

edgeedgnedgy said:
Nothing bad happened to me. I wasn't molested or anything. I'm not particularly ugly. As I said, I just always wanted to be male. People here are telling me that I probably have underlying trauma, but I don't.
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Kid, get off Kiwifarms. This place is so sarcastic and dark - it's not healthy for someone who is actually tied up in the issues. Go to 4th Wave Now or check out https://www.piqueresproject.com/ and see if any of them have resources for a therapist who isn't automatically pro trans. Most of the females I grew up with didn't want to be women, and most of us grew out of it, so give yourself time.
 
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Mrs. Adams said:
Kid, get off Kiwifarms. This place is so sarcastic and dark - it's not healthy for someone who is actually tied up in the issues. Go to 4th Wave Now or check out https://www.piqueresproject.com/ and see if any of them have resources for a therapist who isn't automatically pro trans. Most of the females I grew up with didn't want to be women, and most of us grew out of it, so give yourself time.
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"go from one biased thing to another biased thing" that said I do think the person should wait before trooning out
 
Spooky Bones said:
He says without recommending an unbiased source on troons (I've never seen one; 4th Wave Now may be the closest thing I'm aware of.)
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by "another unbaised" source i mean that 4th wave is biased against troons
 
UncleMoeLester said:
by "another unbaised" source i mean that 4th wave is biased against troons
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Right, what's a source on troons which isn't somehow biased? I maintain that 4WN is significantly less biased than most as is picaresque project. They even use preferred pronouns. Most mainstream sources are biased in favor of troons.
 
NerdShamer said:
You're either with them or against them, if some of our threads are anything to go by.
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If you had an actually unbiased site, troons would viciously attack it screaming twanzfobia at them until the only people left were people who no longer gave a fuck about being called that.
 
The Pink Panther said:
But they have fucking tits, bro.

That completely invalidates everything else just on the basis that they have titties.
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Yes they have tits, but then Women have to deal with their cycles and being manipulated by their own hormones every month.

Men have their own downsides, basically we are at higher risk of suicide, our reproductive system is prone to cancer and we age terribly in comparison
 
Erischan said:
People aren't born broken. Something had to break you.
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