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Not sure if OP is still here but, all I'm gonna say is that you should not do an act that you're bound to regret.
The science on gender is moderately disputed, and even if the term would be validated, the science for an accurate sex reassignment surgery isn't there; they would simply butcher you for pocket money, and then comfort themselves by saying that this is what you always wanted.

 
And if you haven't been scared off of taking Testosterone yet, another thing the troons won't tell you is that there's a high chance it will make you a fucking fatty. You will have to work out like a sunnuvabitch to avoid falling into the amorphous-androgynous blob that 85% of FTM's end up in. They all start looking like podgy dumplings with shaved heads, spectacles and blue hair. Then they get a double mastectomy, but nothing can take away the female hips. So the end result is a figure like a 3 tier wedding cake.

Question: How much yaoi have you read?
 
Russel trooning out would be a hell of an arc, but he'd probably just be the Mormon equivalent of Jonathan Yaniv ("suck me my feminine penis, Taylor" or something) without the pedo stuff.
Well, his condition is known for causing male infertility.
 
And if you haven't been scared off of taking Testosterone yet, another thing the troons won't tell you is that there's a high chance it will make you a fucking fatty. You will have to work out like a sunnuvabitch to avoid falling into the amorphous-androgynous blob that 85% of FTM's end up in. They all start looking like podgy dumplings with shaved heads, spectacles and blue hair. Then they get a double mastectomy, but nothing can take away the female hips. So the end result is a figure like a 3 tier wedding cake.

Question: How much yaoi have you read?
And fat produces estrogen, so when testosterone makes you fat you'll need more and more testosterone to stay the same.
 
Hi, I have been lurking this forum for a while now. I am ESL and this is my first post so please don't be too harsh

I am FTM trans (pre-HRT/surgery, have only transitioned socially) and have identified as such for a while. Not a trender, I always wanted to be male, even as a child. But after seeing the way the world views us I fear that I will never be able to live a normal life and will never find love

I don't want to be this way but I can't imagine detransitioning and going back to living as a girl. That isn't me. I would just repress but I can't. I can't just turn off a switch in my brain and stop my gender dysphoria

I don't know what to do. There are no ethical therapists that would want to convince a trans person that they are not trans. That's basically conversion therapy

>inb4 41%

Edit: Please stop telling me to get therapy. As I said before no therapists would be willing to help me with this
>joined today
This reads like obvious bait, but if you haven't done HRT or surgery, you can just stop larping as a man. It won't help with whatever mental stuff you have going on but its a start.
 
Hi, I have been lurking this forum for a while now. I am ESL and this is my first post so please don't be too harsh

I am FTM trans (pre-HRT/surgery, have only transitioned socially) and have identified as such for a while. Not a trender, I always wanted to be male, even as a child. But after seeing the way the world views us I fear that I will never be able to live a normal life and will never find love

I don't want to be this way but I can't imagine detransitioning and going back to living as a girl. That isn't me. I would just repress but I can't. I can't just turn off a switch in my brain and stop my gender dysphoria

I don't know what to do. There are no ethical therapists that would want to convince a trans person that they are not trans. That's basically conversion therapy

>inb4 41%

Edit: Please stop telling me to get therapy. As I said before no therapists would be willing to help me with this
Yes, it is fairly easily achieved:
- Exit trans support/community everything. Those are echo chambers that serve to reinforced that insanity.
- Stop obsessing: find your points of obsession and look for ways to avoid obsessing over them.

I can't just turn off a switch in my brain and stop my gender dysphoria
You can defeat it the same way you created it: gradually, over time. It can be done.

I don't want to be this way but I can't imagine detransitioning and going back to living as a girl.
As you move further and further from it, once the transsexual-colored glasses fall from your eyes, you may change your mind about that. No matter how much you mutilate your body, no matter what clothing you don, you will always be a woman. You will always "live as a girl", you will never escape that.

Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours.
 
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Yes, it is fairly easily achieved:
- Exit trans support everything. Those are echo chambers that serve to reinforced that insanity.
- Stop obsessing: find your points of obsession and look for ways to avoid obsessing over them.


You can defeat it the same way you created it: gradually, over time. It can be done.
If you go to a therapist they will listen to all your problems, ask some pointed questions, and sooner or later say something which is essentially just, "Just stop worrying about that and be happy instead." I figured this out in sophomore year. I was very depressed, and at some point I thought to myself "I wish i could just choose to stop feeling this way." I tried it, and to my surprise, it actually worked. I didn't feel that way anymore. I learned then that emotions and unconscious thoughts are things we can totally control.

Literally just change your mind lol.
 
You are who you are and nothing can change that.
You can't want to be a man because you don't know what being a man is. At best you want to be what people think being a man is like.

If you were a man you would suck it up and deal with the shitty hand you were dealt.
 
A few old friends re-added me recently. One wants to have a womb; doesn't care for tits or periods or taking dick. Just wants the ability to give birth. The other is hyper depressed even thinking about being trans. Neither is acting on it. Meanwhile the one friend who did act on it is unstable, fat, lives on permanent cumbrain and can't get it up half the time despite wanting to jerk off 24/7.

Trannies may not live sex-based lives but sure as shit always end up doing it anyway. Half the 'h-haha' transgender comics and panel memes Ive seen always try to make light of sexwork, but how come trannies always end up there? How many cishet people do you know who considered sex work? 1 in 100? Focusing on your sexuality doesn't mean actual sex, yet to trannies it always seem to do.
 
The thought of an oversized clitoris that resembles a tiny dick and hair everywhere (unless your genetic makeup allows for less body hair) should be enough to scare away any girls considering testosterone, but I guess the uwu validation comes first.
 
Hi, I have been lurking this forum for a while now. I am ESL and this is my first post so please don't be too harsh

I am FTM trans (pre-HRT/surgery, have only transitioned socially) and have identified as such for a while. Not a trender, I always wanted to be male, even as a child. But after seeing the way the world views us I fear that I will never be able to live a normal life and will never find love

I don't want to be this way but I can't imagine detransitioning and going back to living as a girl. That isn't me. I would just repress but I can't. I can't just turn off a switch in my brain and stop my gender dysphoria

I don't know what to do. There are no ethical therapists that would want to convince a trans person that they are not trans. That's basically conversion therapy

>inb4 41%

Edit: Please stop telling me to get therapy. As I said before no therapists would be willing to help me with this

Are you a lesbian? Because if not, no, you will never find love. If you are, you may find another lesbian who is willing to pretend she thinks you are a man. And another TIF is an option, you can reinforce each other’s LARP. There is a slight chance that if you are a super super cute slim little tomboy that you may be able to find a guy who is willing to pretend he thinks you’re a guy. This relationship will not last, though, because men are not about to put up with this annoyance long term. He won’t love you, though, and his friends will think the whole thing is hilarious.

If you want help from a therapist here’s what you do: show up looking like the female you are, never mention anything about trans or gender shit at all, and talk instead about your actual problems. The ones that have led you to imagine you have gender dysphoria, which doesn’t actually exist. Are you autistic? Depressed? Have a personality disorder? Severe anxiety? OCD? You have one of those, or a handful of others. There is something wrong with you, but it is not that you are a male trapped in a female body. Obsessive compulsive traits are understudied in trans cases, but may explain things like your obsessive intrusive thoughts that you have convinced yourself you cannot get rid of.

This one is hard right now, but you have to get off the internet and go outside. Since the virus, well, start by having someone who knows how block every LGBTQBBQ site out there at the router level and not tell you the password. Instead, have them write it down and give it to a friend who isn’t insane, for when you have to have it. Even if you’re a lesbian, you don’t need to be on gay sites. The last place a lesbian needs to be right now is in the LGBTQQQQQQBB community.

You have to stop thinking about this all the time because this is nothing. It is not a thing. It is nothing to think about. Gender is imaginary, and what almost everyone means by the word should properly be called “a personality.” It is very likely you do not have one other than thinking you’re trans. If you don’t have genderwoo what in the world will you think about and what in the world will you be? So you know, become more interesting, dump current hobbies and interests and replace 100% with anything else, as long as it isn’t related to gender or sexuality. If you were really a guy I’d tell you to try to get a job that keeps you outside in the sun 12-14 hours a day, but while that will improve fitness, it won’t have the transformative reset effective like it has on males.

Seventeen magazine used to advise girls to wear a rubber band around their wrists and snap it whenever they thought about eating, and to then to go brush their teeth because it makes food taste nasty. Don’t know what the gender diet equivalent would be but you could certainly try the rubber band.
 
Hi, I have been lurking this forum for a while now. I am ESL and this is my first post so please don't be too harsh

I am FTM trans (pre-HRT/surgery, have only transitioned socially) and have identified as such for a while. Not a trender, I always wanted to be male, even as a child. But after seeing the way the world views us I fear that I will never be able to live a normal life and will never find love

I don't want to be this way but I can't imagine detransitioning and going back to living as a girl. That isn't me. I would just repress but I can't. I can't just turn off a switch in my brain and stop my gender dysphoria

I don't know what to do. There are no ethical therapists that would want to convince a trans person that they are not trans. That's basically conversion therapy

>inb4 41%

Edit: Please stop telling me to get therapy. As I said before no therapists would be willing to help me with this

See generally from my own experience, being Trans is generally a symptom of another condition. It may be helpful to see a therapist and explore what else is going on in your life.

It has frequently become an easy way out for certain Shrinks to write it off as GID when in reality it could be something else making you feel that way.

A lot of it is just learning to accept whom you are. I mean I had the opposite delusions (i.e M2F) and honestly I have been able to be happy being a somewhat femme gay guy

Basically what I am saying is that people get to hung up on gender norms, there is nothing wrong being a guy who has a girly side to them, or a tom boy, anyone telling you that you are transgender for that are so hung up with gender stereotypes they feel the world is black and white .
 
tiny dick and hair everywhere

scare away any girls
Well, if they want to be males, I don't see the issue with having a tiny dick and lots of hair. They won't be scared because they don't want to be girls, anyway.

But I agree with people here: OP, go find a therapist. Fucking up your health because some people with colored hair online told you it will make your depression go away is a bad, bad idea. Don't listen to online troons and take care of your body, since it is the only one you'll get in this life.
 
Well, if they want to be males, I don't see the issue with having a tiny dick and lots of hair. They won't be scared because they don't want to be girls, anyway.

But I agree with people here: OP, go find a therapist. Fucking up your health because some people with colored hair online told you it will make your depression go away is a bad, bad idea. Don't listen to online troons and take care of your body, since it is the only one you'll get in this life.
The issue is a lot of these girls don’t actually want to be male per se, when it comes down to it they really just want to be (what they perceive as) de-sexualised beings free from societal expectations, and while many of them conflate this with being men, others just go non-binary and start by cutting their hair and wearing binders as a way to escape their dreaded femininity. They think hormones will solve their problems but don’t stop to think about the side effects, and though at first the idea of body hair all over and a freaky enlarged clitoris might not bother them, many of them want to be the “soft boy” archetype that’s popular among teenage fandom circles, and get upset when they end up as hairy baboons like their male relatives.

I was raised by a super left wing family and was the prime age to be targeted by this gender crap when it was just getting started, and growing up I received rather mixed messages about what life is like for a woman living in current year - on one hand I was told “women are strong and smart and can do anything men do” with an extra helping of uterus worshipping moon goddess hippie insanity, on the other “the streets out there are full of potential rapists, never trust men, you could always be targeted” and all that along with me being the quiet awkward kid who wasn’t interested in dating any of the boys in my year and couldn’t relate to my peers, and an active tumblr account, led me to be super ashamed of my body and I didn’t want any physical characteristics that could pigeonhole me as “female”. So I came out as non binary and wanted a mastectomy and hysterectomy, but not testosterone as I didn’t want to be a man, just escape from the warped idea of womanhood I viewed as a prison. Grew out of it after realising there were mental health issues underpinning it and getting the help I needed, but I wouldn’t be surprised if many of these young women seek transition because they’re going through the same feelings as my younger self.
 
I would caution people against assuming that because a strong majority of trannies or whatever are X, that all trannies are like that.

I think most trannies are transtrenders with mental disorders but I think there are legit trans people out there. The question is, how many, and what is making them feel that way from a very early age? We know that gender and sex ARE linked and that boys naturally as boys want to do boy things and generally play with dumptrucks over barbie dolls, so why do some people in childhood feel the opposite of their birth gender? I do not know, but just because the left wing is insane and posturing tolerance while encouraging people to identify as trans so they can feel more accepting does not mean there aren't legitimately trans people out there. I don't really know for sure, and I do think most transgenderism is "iatrogenic," like diagnoses like DID/MPD which are not what they appear to be on the face of it surrounded by a lot of bullshit.

I think a real potential tragedy over the left's eagerness to produce transgender individuals to wage a war on sex and gender is the fact that actual real trannies-with-the-wrong-switch-in-their-brain like the recent poster end up being further marginalized as, giving the poster the benefit of the doubt here, they're not merely narcissists with a cornucopia of personality disorders but people with something real and biological going on. The transtrenders have muddled the discussion and corrupted the science so much it's impossible to say--as the modern tranny movement, composed of transtrenders, has stated that you're trans if you merely want to be trans for whatever reason at all.

Newer research on schizophrenia shows that it's not a singular mental disorder, but a far more complicated set of distinct disorders working together. There are different types of schizophrenia on top of that, too, such a paranoid schizophrenics or catatonic schizophrenics. We must be careful how we view mental disorders and what they really are, There may be different biological/social markers for people being trans -- there may be biological trannies, and then a group of people who also identify as such more motivated by personality disorders and social/environemntal presssures.

To edgeedgnedgy: You will probably not find love, but that's true of a lot of us normal straight males here as women of our generation have been corrupted and most of them have gone insufferably woke, to say the very least. It's no picnic for us normal regular dudes either. We're sort of a lost generation.
 
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