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edgeedgnedgy said:
I am young
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We can tell. This is why it's so important that you not make any irreversible decisions. And both hormones and surgery are irreversible decisions. Have you read any stories of detrans people?
and live with an unsupportive family
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You live with a family who's not buying into your schtick. That could actually be the most supportive thing for them to do.

Love yourself, OP. Bobs and vagene included.
 
edgeedgnedgy said:
Hi, I have been lurking this forum for a while now. I am ESL and this is my first post so please don't be too harsh

I am FTM trans (pre-HRT/surgery, have only transitioned socially) and have identified as such for a while. Not a trender, I always wanted to be male, even as a child. But after seeing the way the world views us I fear that I will never be able to live a normal life and will never find love

I don't want to be this way but I can't imagine detransitioning and going back to living as a girl. That isn't me. I would just repress but I can't. I can't just turn off a switch in my brain and stop my gender dysphoria

I don't know what to do. There are no ethical therapists that would want to convince a trans person that they are not trans. That's basically conversion therapy

>inb4 41%

Edit: Please stop telling me to get therapy. As I said before no therapists would be willing to help me with this
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You don't want therapy because you want someone to tell you that you're not fucking up.

You are fucking up. Nuke your Discord and don't get your tits ripped off.
 
edgeedgnedgy said:
Hi, I have been lurking this forum for a while now. I am ESL and this is my first post so please don't be too harsh

I am FTM trans (pre-HRT/surgery, have only transitioned socially) and have identified as such for a while. Not a trender, I always wanted to be male, even as a child. But after seeing the way the world views us I fear that I will never be able to live a normal life and will never find love

I don't want to be this way but I can't imagine detransitioning and going back to living as a girl. That isn't me. I would just repress but I can't. I can't just turn off a switch in my brain and stop my gender dysphoria

I don't know what to do. There are no ethical therapists that would want to convince a trans person that they are not trans. That's basically conversion therapy

>inb4 41%

Edit: Please stop telling me to get therapy. As I said before no therapists would be willing to help me with this
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You are a woman. There is literally nothing you can do about this. Your options are to accept this fact or kill yourself.
 
Spooky Bones said:
OP is like someone in a cult who's just walked in on the guru diddling little kids. She's still brainwashed, but she knows that shit is fucked up. She is in a cult. What her moment of truth was I'd be curious to know, though.
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I would say she's maybe halfway there to realizing that shit is truly fucked. It sounds more like she thinks "the man" would keep her down if she went through with her tranny ideations but is in denial about them being self-destructive in and of themselves.
 
edgeedgnedgy said:
Hi, I have been lurking this forum for a while now. I am ESL and this is my first post so please don't be too harsh

I am FTM trans (pre-HRT/surgery, have only transitioned socially) and have identified as such for a while. Not a trender, I always wanted to be male, even as a child. But after seeing the way the world views us I fear that I will never be able to live a normal life and will never find love

I don't want to be this way but I can't imagine detransitioning and going back to living as a girl. That isn't me. I would just repress but I can't. I can't just turn off a switch in my brain and stop my gender dysphoria

I don't know what to do. There are no ethical therapists that would want to convince a trans person that they are not trans. That's basically conversion therapy

>inb4 41%

Edit: Please stop telling me to get therapy. As I said before no therapists would be willing to help me with this
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Just be yourself you dumb fucking nigger. If you're more comfortable acting like a man then fine, trust me, nobody has a problem with that, we don't care. Once we start to have a problem is when you try to mutilate yourself to look like a man, don't do that and you'll be fine.
 
edgeedgnedgy said:
Because I have gender dysphoria. I don't want to be a masculine woman, I want to be a man. I hate my body. I I want to have a male body
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Are you sure about that though? Or do you just dislike the changes your body went through during puberty? (Dear God please be over 18 that we are even talking about this kind of stuff with you, OTOH, if you're under 18, you probably need the message not to troon out all the louder.) Or has someone put the bad touch on you leading you to hate your body? Or do you feel that you don't, and can never, live up to beauty standards? Et cetera. These kinds of things are almost certainly more common causes for FtMing than actual gender dysphoria, but the most common cause is probably "social contagion" i.e. trooning out and focusing on hating your body (usually for reasons like the ones I mentioned) being the hip thing to do.
 
edgeedgnedgy said:
Because I have gender dysphoria. I don't want to be a masculine woman, I want to be a man. I hate my body. I I want to have a male body
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Got some bad news, sport. You're never getting a male body. Ever (unless you believe in reincarnation). So, you can either:

a ) Troon out and butcher your genitals and endocrine system (horrible idea, just have a look around this site for an idea of what that will do to your mentality and your physical health).
b ) Suck it up, go see a mental health professional and get your head straightened out.
c ) "Opt out" entirely, like almost half of all Troonists. Do I have to point out that this is a stupid choice that only precludes anything improving?

Go talk to someone, kid. Because once that cult gets a good firm grip on you, they'll keep you in that crab bucket forever.
 
As the others have said, either turn back now, or dress like a man and carry on, but know that outside of the Troon hug/rapebox (because we know it's filled with creeps), no one will believe you are male.
This is the thing; no online trans forum, or doctor, or therapist will tell you the truth these days. The lack of ethics isn't that a therapist won't help you sort your shit. They are unethical because they can't help you sort your head demons due to the Trans Lobby threatening their jobs. Testosterone destroys the female body. You might feel a bit giddy at first because you've been sucked into some cult that told you it's possible to change your biological sex, and maybe you've watched some Aiden's (FTM) on Youtube and they're all like; "Yeah, lookit me, I'm a reel boy now and I'm popular"- but it's short lived. After a few years on T, you will start experiencing terrible side effects. Like hair loss (on your head), horrible acne, vaginal atrophy (a painful condition), joint problems, increased risk for a slew of cancers, early onset osteoporosis, your cholesterol will shoot through the roof, blood pressure issues, strokes, heart problems etc etc. You will basically be shortening your life span, or else, shortening the years you can live medically healthy to a scant few.
Once again, Troon forums will not tell you most of this shit, because they're lunatics who love-bomb new recruits.

Do yourself a favour and join a few forums for detransitioners. They are mostly female and could probably help you out more than any of us shitlords on KF.
 
Spooky Bones said:
Are you sure about that though? Or do you just dislike the changes your body went through during puberty? (Dear God please be over 18 that we are even talking about this kind of stuff with you, OTOH, if you're under 18, you probably need the message not to troon out all the louder.) Or has someone put the bad touch on you leading you to hate your body? Or do you feel that you don't, and can never, live up to beauty standards? Et cetera. These kinds of things are almost certainly more common causes for FtMing than actual gender dysphoria, but the most common cause is probably "social contagion" i.e. trooning out and focusing on hating your body (usually for reasons like the ones I mentioned) being the hip thing to do.
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Nothing bad happened to me. I wasn't molested or anything. I'm not particularly ugly. As I said, I just always wanted to be male. People here are telling me that I probably have underlying trauma, but I don't.
 
Am guessing op is either a troll or a really, really stupid teenager that drank the tranny horsepissaid hard.
 
PL here. Someone very close to me went through something similar. Was a sort of proto non-binary, poly-whatever gay/troon confused kid. Wanted to get herself sterilized at 14 years old. Thank God no doctor (at least then) would ever consider it. I was COMPLETELY unsupportive and told her she was a loon and should get help for whatever her fuckheadedness was, and that she wpuld later regret the shit out of it. A bit more than 10 years later, she's engaged to what seems like a really good man, and is looking forward to having babies with him. I don't need to say "tolja so" to her, she realizes how crazy it was at the time.

If you do engage in this insane and horrifying hubris, you may be killing off any future chance of happiness, wether with a husband, a wife, or whatever.
 
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