General transgender discussion thread - Take the tranny related debates here.

[babaGAReeb]

the abomination should be post birth aborted

 

[SpEd Kaczynski]

ETA: are there conjoined twins who "share" genitalia? Even inseparable ones like Abby and Brittany Hensel reportedly have two vaginas.

Unless the graphic below is wrong, it looks like Abby and Brittany Hensel actually just share one vagina.

 

[LargeChoonger]

I am transphobic. That is all

 

[AnOminous]

Unless the graphic below is wrong, it looks like Abby and Brittany Hensel actually just share one vagina.

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When you think about things like this it's actually pretty amazing the level of "intelligence" your genome has that when trying to put something together from a set of botched instructions, it does an almost miraculous job actually growing a viable fetus. Something has to go terribly wrong to start putting together a mutant like this (basically just two people shoved together) and it's ridiculous that biology somehow works around it. For instance, the one ribcage thing. How did the genes know how to do this when confronted with two sets of all other internal vital organs? How did this work?

 

[The Curmudgeon]

I've met very few trans people in my life. Of the few I have met, there are rare decent ones among them. I used to be more tolerant on the whole trans issue. Actually, I used to be way more supportive of LGBT in general. These days? I have become more homophobic and transphobic. Especially the latter. When I'm around them, naturally I don't go out of my way to bully or harass them. I treat them with respect like I do anyone else.

However, I resent that the powers-that-be are bending over backwards for 0.6% of the whole U.S. population. Not only that, they are trying to impose themselves on everyone else. We have to care about them, but they could give fuck all about everyone else, including non-trans people who go out of their way to help them.

Also, I've been told that modern neuroscientists and the medical community accept being trans as a legitimate thing. Is there any truth to that? I'm aware that trans people have gender dysmorphia and hormonal problems, but is there more to it?

 

[PBJ Sucks]

When you think about things like this it's actually pretty amazing the level of "intelligence" your genome has that when trying to put something together from a set of botched instructions, it does an almost miraculous job actually growing a viable fetus. Something has to go terribly wrong to start putting together a mutant like this (basically just two people shoved together) and it's ridiculous that biology somehow works around it. For instance, the one ribcage thing. How did the genes know how to do this when confronted with two sets of all other internal vital organs? How did this work?

You'd be surprised how badly one tiny mistake can fuck things up though. I don't think bodies are aware of the defects in that way, deciding to grow the bones to work with the oddities. The bones grew in the presence of the defect instead of with a normal body, so they grew differently and luckily it worked ok.

I've met very few trans people in my life. Of the few I have met, there are rare decent ones among them. I used to be more tolerant on the whole trans issue. Actually, I used to be way more supportive of LGBT in general. These days? I have become more homophobic and transphobic. Especially the latter. When I'm around them, naturally I don't go out of my way to bully or harass them. I treat them with respect like I do anyone else.

However, I resent that the powers-that-be are bending over backwards for 0.6% of the whole U.S. population. Not only that, they are trying to impose themselves on everyone else. We have to care about them, but they could give fuck all about everyone else, including non-trans people who go out of their way to help them.

Also, I've been told that modern neuroscientists and the medical community accept being trans as a legitimate thing. Is there any truth to that? I'm aware that trans people have gender dysmorphia and hormonal problems, but is there more to it?

I get tired during pride month because social media just will not shut up about it. I tend to be live and let live until either it's objectively something that needs attention or something that demands attention. Lgbt needs certain attention. Unjust discrimination and the like. Occasional pride shit, whatever. A whole fucking month, hell no. Similar with trannies. I never had anything against respectful people making a request for something they acknowledge they have no rights to but that make their lives better. Then they turned into entitled assholes demanding things from me they still have no right to. The assholes ruined it for everyone and I have no desire to humor any of them, even the nice ones.

The tranny I follow on social media has the same effect on me as the pride month. Completely apart from the assholes, she has made troonism into something that causes annoyance when I hear about it. She can't go five minutes without bringing it up. I get it, you're trans. Now shut up about it.

 

[Underestimated Nutria]

E- I have known one hermaphrodite, chosen to be male at birth (because that's how they did stuff back when). Once she found out as an adult that she wasn't crazy for experiencing period cramps throughout her puberty, she had the doctors open her natural vaginal cavity back up. I lost track soon after that. But I know she shoots blanks but can get a stiffy, and can produce viable eggs.

*skeptical*

 

[Slap47]

I've met very few trans people in my life. Of the few I have met, there are rare decent ones among them. I used to be more tolerant on the whole trans issue. Actually, I used to be way more supportive of LGBT in general. These days? I have become more homophobic and transphobic. Especially the latter. When I'm around them, naturally I don't go out of my way to bully or harass them. I treat them with respect like I do anyone else.

However, I resent that the powers-that-be are bending over backwards for 0.6% of the whole U.S. population. Not only that, they are trying to impose themselves on everyone else. We have to care about them, but they could give fuck all about everyone else, including non-trans people who go out of their way to help them.

Also, I've been told that modern neuroscientists and the medical community accept being trans as a legitimate thing. Is there any truth to that? I'm aware that trans people have gender dysmorphia and hormonal problems, but is there more to it?

The problem is that the sciences are dominated by a culture of political correctness that would make the humanities blush.

For example: In genetics all humans are the same in the brain. Is this true? Unlikely but going against that would be suicide. Some older and more ambitious geneticists and scientists say that science is dominated by a culture of "neo-lysenkoism", in reference to the Soviet biologist Lysenko. He rejected basic biology and had Stalin and Mao's backing.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

When you think about things like this it's actually pretty amazing the level of "intelligence" your genome has that when trying to put something together from a set of botched instructions, it does an almost miraculous job actually growing a viable fetus. Something has to go terribly wrong to start putting together a mutant like this (basically just two people shoved together) and it's ridiculous that biology somehow works around it. For instance, the one ribcage thing. How did the genes know how to do this when confronted with two sets of all other internal vital organs? How did this work?

Same way this thing does

 

[BeboRefugee]

So are transgender people more susceptible to coronavirus?

The cocktail of hormones and general chaotic condition it leaves the body in would (according to an MtF on twitter) make it difficult to stabilise someone acutely afflicted by coronavirus.

If that's the case, then how will individuals fare that aren't just on hormones, but have had full blown bottom surgery too?

 

[eternal dog mongler]

So are transgender people more susceptible to coronavirus?

The cocktail of hormones and general chaotic condition it leaves the body in would (according to an MtF on twitter) make it difficult to stabilise someone acutely afflicted by coronavirus.

If that's the case, then how will individuals fare that aren't just on hormones, but have had full blown bottom surgery too?

Yes and no. They're more susceptible because they're men. Men have more ACE2 receptors. Viruses don't particularly care about your pronouns.

I don't think any of the drugs MtFs take make them more susceptible. They're just trying to make literally everything about themselves because they're narcissists. There's your answer.

 

[Dom Cruise]

I don't understand why they have to be so literal minded about everything.

So you're a guy and you want to look feminine and dress feminine, that's fine, but why not just still call yourself a guy? Why the "no, I literally am 100% female!" thing, why not just own being a feminine guy?

 

[Jason Wynn]

I don't understand why almost none of them anymore ever make even the slightest attempt at passing. I have seen out and about the fatshit with a week's worth of beard stubble, some cheap costume wig on and a maternity dress with steel toed men's worker's boots ..and you better damn well call him MAA'M!!!

While more rare, I've seen similar things with FtM, still having long feminine hair, still wearing makeup and feminine clothes...but they freak out if you don't use male pronouns.

Is there any difference anymore between troons and transtrenders and "actual" trans people? The lines keep getting blurred more and more.

 

[Mrs Paul]

I don't understand why almost none of them anymore ever make even the slightest attempt at passing. I have seen out and about the fatshit with a week's worth of beard stubble, some cheap costume wig on and a maternity dress with steel toed men's worker's boots ..and you better damn well call him MAA'M!!!

While more rare, I've seen similar things with FtM, still having long feminine hair, still wearing makeup and feminine clothes...but they freak out if you don't use male pronouns.

Is there any difference anymore between troons and transtrenders and "actual" trans people? The lines keep getting blurred more and more.

I've seen some people who pass really well, and then others who don't pass for shit. Granted, I do think that it's sometimes "confirmation bias", like I don't even start thinking they look "trans" until I find out they're trans, then I start scrutinizing every little feature. You know what I mean?

I feel bad for people who do try at least, but can't manage it. That sucks, But at least make an effort not to be a fashion victim. Don't get your fashion tips from "People of Walmart". (Although those people probably sucked even before they transitioned -- Chris being the prime example)

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Is there any difference anymore between troons and transtrenders and "actual" trans people? The lines keep getting blurred more and more.

If they transitioned in the 90s, maybe. Gatekeeping was strict then.

You had to live as a woman for around three years before you even got access to titty skittles. You also had to have a job, which is how providers knew you were stable.

I do think there are actual people who are trans but they aren't the ones on twitter yelling about it. There seems to be a massive amount of social contagion going around r/t transitioning and it's now easy to immediately shove your white IT-job having ass into a vulnerable class for woke points.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Also, I've been told that modern neuroscientists and the medical community accept being trans as a legitimate thing. Is there any truth to that? I'm aware that trans people have gender dysmorphia and hormonal problems, but is there more to it?

Kinda sorta. Psychology and psychiatry accept it. Some healthcare providers will humor trannies to gain social justice cred:


It's worth noting that the American Psychiatric Association claims tumblr trenders are just as valid as transpeople who have dysphoria.

Expert Q & A: Gender Dysphoria

Find answers to your questions about gender dysphoria written by leading psychiatrists.

www.psychiatry.org

Defining transgender terms

A glossary of language used to describe transgender and gender non-conforming experiences.

www.apa.org

Not all transgender people suffer from gender dysphoria and that distinction is important to keep in mind. Gender dysphoria and/or coming out as transgender can occur at any age.

Transgender: An umbrella term encompassing those whose gender identities or gender roles differ from those typically associated with the sex they were assigned at birth.

So if you're not sticking to your assigned gender roles congrats, psychiatry says you're trans!

The progressive view on transgenderism overall is correct, in that transitioning must be accepted since the brain cannot be made to match the body. What is misguided, are people who are not trans, who got groomed into thinking they are trans, so they spread incorrect "PSAs" which cause unnecessary strife. It's spreading unintentional lies with the best of intentions. This of course is not new to the human race either.

I don't think there's any evidence that gender dysphoria stems from a brain/body mismatch. Some transpeople get surgery and still feel dysphoric afterwards, like Noelle from I am Jazz. Here's a post he made a few months after getting SRS:

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

they are a blight and should be removed.

 

[Lord Xenu]

I don't think any of the drugs MtFs take make them more susceptible.

There's some evidence that estrogen has a protective effect in mice, so it's quite possible that men receiving HRT are less likely than the general male population to be affected.

...[An] Ovariectomy or treating female mice with an estrogen receptor antagonist increased mortality indicating a protective effect for estrogen receptor signaling in mice infected with SARS-CoV. Together, these data suggest that sex differences in susceptibility to SARS-CoV in mice parallel those observed in patients and also identify estrogen receptor signaling as critical for protection in females.

Sex-based differences in susceptibility to SARS-CoV infection

Sex-based differences in susceptibility to SARS-CoV infection

archived 24 Mar 2020 15:27:31 UTC

archive.vn

 

[Zamzz]

I've seen some people who pass really well, and then others who don't pass for shit. Granted, I do think that it's sometimes "confirmation bias", like I don't even start thinking they look "trans" until I find out they're trans, then I start scrutinizing every little feature. You know what I mean?

I feel bad for people who do try at least, but can't manage it. That sucks, But at least make an effort not to be a fashion victim. Don't get your fashion tips from "People of Walmart". (Although those people probably sucked even before they transitioned -- Chris being the prime example)

It is confirmation bias, most people here have probably interacted with a trans person without knowing they were trans, it's only the ones that don't pass and are easily clockable that you can tell from the get go. I've met a few transgender people in my life and most of the time I wasn't able to tell they were trans until they started talking. KF likes pretend like the average tranny looks and acts like Jessica Yaniv when the reality is most of them just want to live their life in peace.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

It is confirmation bias, most people here have probably interacted with a trans person without knowing they were trans, it's only the ones that don't pass and are easily clockable that you can tell from the get go. I've met a few transgender people in my life and most of the time I wasn't able to tell they were trans until they started talking. KF likes pretend like the average tranny looks and acts like Jessica Yaniv when the reality is most of them just want to live their life in peace.

I get the impression about 40% of them behave like normal people and 60% of them are coomers, tumblrite trenders or twitter social justice warriors.