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How do people's whose whole job is to play vidya suck so badly at it?

Because somewhere between 5 and 20 years ago - a lot more avenues opened up for people who don't suck at playing vidya.

Esports, Youtube, and Twitch are all much better avenues for "playing games and building an audience", meaning that "Games Journalist" is someone that couldn't do one of those things.
 
I wanted to be a games journalist when I was a kid, back when magazines were a thing.
I remember how it would have been cool to get your own show on G4TV back in the early 2000’s, since video game journalism was still technically in its niche form. Only thing they had back then were writers who actually were fans of the gaming landscape, whether it was tabletop, board or video games.

Then Kotaku, Anita Sarkessian and Zöe Quinn came along and it just went downhill.
 
Is there any proof of this? Did she admit to not liking games?
Didn't say she hated games, I said she had no interest in them, specifically from an enthusiast point of view which is what GB is. The early days of her on the podcast she wanted to talk about anything but gaming when she could, especially movies. And anytime there was industry talk she was never familiar with all the companies, people and terms the other guys were throwing around and would have to ask questions or would just sit there quietly. The further back in time they went the worse it was. And I get she is young but that isn't a great excuse.

Then in quicklooks she had to be corrected about incredibly simple stuff all the time, I specifically remember the Overland video they did where she was leading the video and started out by calling it a RTS and Alex had to quickly correct her because you know, it's a turn based game. What "hardcore gamer" doesn't know what a RTS is and how it's different from a turn based game? That kind of stuff happened regularly.

I assume she got better over time since it was her job, but she was so insufferable I stopped watching/listening to GB East content pretty fast after she joined up. Only highlight I remember after that is during the GOTY talks I believe it was? Where she sat and played with a toy car looking bored out of her mind. That got passed around a lot because it was hilarious.
 
Didn't say she hated games, I said she had no interest in them, specifically from an enthusiast point of view which is what GB is. The early days of her on the podcast she wanted to talk about anything but gaming when she could, especially movies.
Remember, she's a comedian and not a vidya journalist. GiantBomb was just a way to pay the bills until her career took off.
 
Did it actually take off? Because all I hear about her are complaints. A Sims 4 player that shrieks during GOTY. Shes the reason I stopped supporting GB after 5+ years, the GOTY talk was horrible and that was my favorite thing they did post Ryan.
It took off enough for her to leave GB. It looks like she made her twitch channel in 2014 and did nothing with it, got hired by GB in 2017, left and plugged the shit out of it to wind up with ~13,000 followers, and ~300+ average viewers which is nothing to sneeze at.

It really represents an issue with GiantBomb now that they're all basically glorified streamers - why would anyone new join up and do anything other than what Abby did? She joined up, found a part of their audience for herself, and rolled out.
 
It really represents an issue with GiantBomb now that they're all basically glorified streamers - why would anyone new join up and do anything other than what Abby did? She joined up, found a part of their audience for herself, and rolled out.
This has mainly been an issue with GB East. They keep wanting to hire "unique voices" aka diversity hires with massive egos who don't belong on their site which leads to people like Austin and Abby who just use them to boost their own career. I guarantee GB could hire someone who wouldn't do this if they tried, but it would likely require hiring just a boring white dude which seems entirely out of the question when you look at GB East hires so far.
 
It took off enough for her to leave GB. It looks like she made her twitch channel in 2014 and did nothing with it, got hired by GB in 2017, left and plugged the shit out of it to wind up with ~13,000 followers, and ~300+ average viewers which is nothing to sneeze at.

It really represents an issue with GiantBomb now that they're all basically glorified streamers - why would anyone new join up and do anything other than what Abby did? She joined up, found a part of their audience for herself, and rolled out.
I don't follow GB since several years back and in a way I would have liked for her to stick around. If she was still at Giantbomb when she reached an age where she felt the ship had sailed on her dreams it wouldn't be good, she would see an audience that she already despises that enabled her to collect a paycheck while she grew complacent and now she's stuck doing that. She would be the godzilla of cuntiness from that day forward and it would be misogynistic to try to reign her in or fire her.
 
This has mainly been an issue with GB East. They keep wanting to hire "unique voices" aka diversity hires with massive egos who don't belong on their site which leads to people like Austin and Abby who just use them to boost their own career. I guarantee GB could hire someone who wouldn't do this if they tried, but it would likely require hiring just a boring white dude which seems entirely out of the question when you look at GB East hires so far.
It's an issue for both sides, honestly. Not just Austin and Abby, but Dan and Drew both realized they could go off and do their own thing and be better for it.

It has nothing to do with Abby being a "diversity hire" and everything to do with the fact that most of their new talent realized that GB wasn't doing much for them in the long run. There isn't a segment (like 7 deadly sims) that a potential new hire couldn't just put on Twitch themselves. It's the same problem that SNL had as it started falling from grace - all of the writers/performers who were writing skits/ideas realized they could just workshop them into shows/movies themselves and didn't need SNL for anything other than getting initially popular.

Giantbomb really needs to figure it out if they're going to be around for a long time, because as it stands right now they're just a mediocre streamer group. Giantbomb exploded a while back because there were one of the only places to get video game/comedy videos - but now Twitch and Youtube have that by the warehouse.
 
It's not that Abby just fucked up GOTY once - she caused such a fucking uproar that the entire format was upended to remove things that could potentially be "controversial" and result in more situations where she'd just say something was sexist and cause the entire table to freeze up. Fan discussion of the GOTY content was also suddenly restricted/moderated a great deal to remove any negative comments in general. It took them 3+ years to admit that GOTY had gotten stale and that something needed to change. With that said, they still fucked up 2019's GOTY content by spending shitloads of time just listing off video games instead of doing categories.

A highly underrated Abby moment was when she claimed Dream Daddy reinvented visual novels, then someone pressed her to explain what it did differently from other VNs and it turned out she hadn't even played one before. The line was something like, "Well, I've never played a visual novel before, but I'm playing this one, so that's really saying something. And so many other people are playing it too!" LOL.

The entire point of GB was the on-screen chemistry and none of that translated to streaming remotely. Watching old UPFs is just depressing. RIP.
 
A highly underrated Abby moment was when she claimed Dream Daddy reinvented visual novels, then someone pressed her to explain what it did differently from other VNs and it turned out she hadn't even played one before. The line was something like, "Well, I've never played a visual novel before, but I'm playing this one, so that's really saying something. And so many other people are playing it too!" LOL.
Suda51's the Silver Case wants a word with her. But that one requires some brainpower so nevermind.
 
It's an issue for both sides, honestly. Not just Austin and Abby, but Dan and Drew both realized they could go off and do their own thing and be better for it.
Arguing different things here. I don't really disagree with a lot of your points but that wasn't what I was getting at. Austin and Abby were no one before they joined GB. They joined, took advantage of the audience, then booked it. I mean Austin was barely there a year before he ditched them.

Drew on the other hand was at the site for nearly a decade and he didn't even become a regular on video/podcasts until he was practically forced into it after Ryan died, Patrick moved, and then Vinny moved. Not really the same thing. Dan had an established audience before he joined GB and when he left it was to work for WWE which is something he always wanted to do. That is also why I didn't bring up Ben, based on what he said he just didn't wanna work there anymore.
 
Giantbomb died with Ryan, sad but true. It really feels like he was the one guiding light preventing them from going full woke. It didn't help that Vinny went to NY, he was the 2nd most sane member.
 
Arguing different things here. I don't really disagree with a lot of your points but that wasn't what I was getting at. Austin and Abby were no one before they joined GB. They joined, took advantage of the audience, then booked it. I mean Austin was barely there a year before he ditched them.

Drew on the other hand was at the site for nearly a decade and he didn't even become a regular on video/podcasts until he was practically forced into it after Ryan died, Patrick moved, and then Vinny moved. Not really the same thing. Dan had an established audience before he joined GB and when he left it was to work for WWE which is something he always wanted to do. That is also why I didn't bring up Ben, based on what he said he just didn't wanna work there anymore.
I don't know about arguing, friend.

I was just pointing out that diversity hire or not - they've got an extremely bad employee retention problem that's only going to get worse until they can innovate a reason for talent to stay at the company. If they leave it as-is, it has potential to turn into a revolving door of Abbys - who show up for a bit to get some of the audience and then roll on to their own thing.

I get that Drew and Dan were "longtime dudes" but I feel like when Danny O' Dwyer went off and started NoClip - a lot of GB/Gamespot staff took notice of how good that move turned out for him. NoClip was something that Danny was either unwilling to work with GameSpot on for creative reasons or they just didn't want to explore it and he left.

I think that Drew probably had the same process and that GB could have kept him if they allowed him some creative freedom to pursue his video game/travel concept in house instead of solo. I don't know what Dan was looking for (besides a change of pace) but that's clearly something they could have work with him on instead of letting him leave, even if they let him pursue his wrestling interest more.
 
The entire point of GB was the on-screen chemistry and none of that translated to streaming remotely. Watching old UPFs is just depressing. RIP.
And they know this. When internet podcasts became a thing, GB refused to do it because it killed all the chemistry and pace.
when Danny O' Dwyer went off and started NoClip - a lot of GB/Gamespot staff took notice of how good that move turned out for him.
It's not just Danny. Jim Sterling and Extra Credits ran from The Escapist and did well, at least initially. The problem they run into is that if one guy is carrying the show, you have to make it worth while for them to carry. I'm far from the only one wondering why Yahtzee has stuck with the escapist when he could've left and kept all the money.
 
The press Kit for Persona 5 scramble is including an advert about Shin Megami tensei 3 HD.

"Get more Persona Action from the original creators of Persona, in Shin Megami Tensei 3: Nocturne."

Just think if Switch owners only bought it in droves like they did with Pokemon this wouldn't have happened, but this is the future they chose.
 
It's not just Danny. Jim Sterling and Extra Credits ran from The Escapist and did well, at least initially. The problem they run into is that if one guy is carrying the show, you have to make it worth while for them to carry. I'm far from the only one wondering why Yahtzee has stuck with the escapist when he could've left and kept all the money.
I'm kind of amazed Yahtzee doesn't own the Escapist at this point.
 
As far as I've heard Yahtzee has a really good contract, the kind you can't easily get anywhere else. Leaving may be a significant downgrade for him.
 
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