So for those interested, remember a few pages back, when I posted on Dkos about it, and got a bunch of assholes to hide-rate my posts because Very Serious People (tm) would rather scream and complain than listen to reason? I have a very interesting follow-up. After it was posted here, I picked up based SJW Squirrel's post and brought it back to that thread, and left it there like an IED. You know, because we're ISISL and all that.
The result was fascinating. There was a barrage of "lol, didn't read" posts, but a number of users who pointed out: "Hey, this directly contradicts half your argument, this is kind of important," which was followed by "facts don't matter if I can demonize my opponents."
They're not even trying to hide it. We really are winning this argument on merits.
I just want to take purple aside, show her the video of Chris where he says his mind is deliberately closed, and tell him.her that's what they look like. Also, YAY Mardi Gras colors
An old DNC friend of mine that I helped out informed me that Warren's staff currently has no intention of responding to it. This stands to reason as Warren herself has pretty steadfastly been a consumer advocate. I really don't like repeatedly conflating them with OPL, but they do share his incapacity to understand form letters.
I'm still hearing this rumor in various corners of the 'net. THEY say that Warren will come out with a plan to introduce some kind of "citizen protection" law for the internet, and this will instantaneously halt and cull the Gamergate movement of it's ability to hide for all it's awful treatment of women named Quinn, Wu, and Something I Can't Spell Right.
But there's three problems with this, that I don't believe anyone hoping for such an outcome is predicting:
There is 0 way to introduce some form of... what, global harassment stopping legislation without severely infringing on the rights of users. Suddenly everyone who supports Net Neutrality and Anonymity online are involved and I don't think people who are interested in those issues would care much for screaming multi-hued SJWs.
Getting a senator involved in something like this will do nothing but harm them. How great was it getting Leiberman, or Clinton, to start investigating violent video games? Because something like this wouldn't just target anonymity, it would start to bleed over, to directly target the gaming industry. Which also would lead...
To wide spread resentment from the industry these people work in for making their lives even more difficult. Suddenly these companies would be facing new laws aimed at keeping detailed records of their forums, of being held liable for things people say over Xbox Live, for the content people make on their own as mods for games.
I honestly hope Warren IS on their side. Because how can you stomp out bullying and misogyny on the internet without overreaching draconian measures that negatively impact the very industry the LWs fucking work in?
I'm still hearing this rumor in various corners of the 'net. THEY say that Warren will come out with a plan to introduce some kind of "citizen protection" law for the internet, and this will instantaneously halt and cull the Gamergate movement of it's ability to hide for all it's awful treatment of women named Quinn, Wu, and Something I Can't Spell Right.
But there's three problems with this, that I don't believe anyone hoping for such an outcome is predicting:
There is 0 way to introduce some form of... what, global harassment stopping legislation without severely infringing on the rights of users. Suddenly everyone who supports Net Neutrality and Anonymity online are involved and I don't think people who are interested in those issues would care much for screaming multi-hued SJWs.
Getting a senator involved in something like this will do nothing but harm them. How great was it getting Leiberman, or Clinton, to start investigating violent video games? Because something like this wouldn't just target anonymity, it would start to bleed over, to directly target the gaming industry. Which also would lead...
To wide spread resentment from the industry these people work in for making their lives even more difficult. Suddenly these companies would be facing new laws aimed at keeping detailed records of their forums, of being held liable for things people say over Xbox Live, for the content people make on their own as mods for games.
I honestly hope Warren IS on their side. Because how can you stomp out bullying and misogyny on the internet without overreaching draconian measures that negatively impact the very industry the LWs fucking work in?
I used to work for a company who served content to children but couldn't be assed to file proper legislation documents to permit them to market to and collect information on minors. Rather than file necessary paperwork and hire someone to maintain these records they would instead just delete accounts when they found out certain users were not of legal age. On a kids' site.
This was a huge company, too. I highly doubt there are going to be positive responses from ANY developer/publisher with online communities toward any teeny tiny semblance of enforcing non-anonymous record keeping of all users.
I'm still hearing this rumor in various corners of the 'net. THEY say that Warren will come out with a plan to introduce some kind of "citizen protection" law for the internet, and this will instantaneously halt and cull the Gamergate movement of it's ability to hide for all it's awful treatment of women named Quinn, Wu, and Something I Can't Spell Right.
Two out of three of them have been confirmed to have used sockpuppet accounts. Wouldn't that in turn make them as guilty as anyone who has harassed them anonymously?
I'm still hearing this rumor in various corners of the 'net. THEY say that Warren will come out with a plan to introduce some kind of "citizen protection" law for the internet, and this will instantaneously halt and cull the Gamergate movement of it's ability to hide for all it's awful treatment of women named Quinn, Wu, and Something I Can't Spell Right.
But there's three problems with this, that I don't believe anyone hoping for such an outcome is predicting:
There is 0 way to introduce some form of... what, global harassment stopping legislation without severely infringing on the rights of users. Suddenly everyone who supports Net Neutrality and Anonymity online are involved and I don't think people who are interested in those issues would care much for screaming multi-hued SJWs.
Getting a senator involved in something like this will do nothing but harm them. How great was it getting Leiberman, or Clinton, to start investigating violent video games? Because something like this wouldn't just target anonymity, it would start to bleed over, to directly target the gaming industry. Which also would lead...
To wide spread resentment from the industry these people work in for making their lives even more difficult. Suddenly these companies would be facing new laws aimed at keeping detailed records of their forums, of being held liable for things people say over Xbox Live, for the content people make on their own as mods for games.
I honestly hope Warren IS on their side. Because how can you stomp out bullying and misogyny on the internet without overreaching draconian measures that negatively impact the very industry the LWs fucking work in?
I'm still hearing this rumor in various corners of the 'net. THEY say that Warren will come out with a plan to introduce some kind of "citizen protection" law for the internet, and this will instantaneously halt and cull the Gamergate movement of it's ability to hide for all it's awful treatment of women named Quinn, Wu, and Something I Can't Spell Right.
But there's three problems with this, that I don't believe anyone hoping for such an outcome is predicting:
There is 0 way to introduce some form of... what, global harassment stopping legislation without severely infringing on the rights of users. Suddenly everyone who supports Net Neutrality and Anonymity online are involved and I don't think people who are interested in those issues would care much for screaming multi-hued SJWs.
Getting a senator involved in something like this will do nothing but harm them. How great was it getting Leiberman, or Clinton, to start investigating violent video games? Because something like this wouldn't just target anonymity, it would start to bleed over, to directly target the gaming industry. Which also would lead...
To wide spread resentment from the industry these people work in for making their lives even more difficult. Suddenly these companies would be facing new laws aimed at keeping detailed records of their forums, of being held liable for things people say over Xbox Live, for the content people make on their own as mods for games.
I honestly hope Warren IS on their side. Because how can you stomp out bullying and misogyny on the internet without overreaching draconian measures that negatively impact the very industry the LWs fucking work in?
TheRalphRetort's stream got "hacked" by a script kiddie who used a vulnerability in Hitbox's chat to redirect viewers to another site. The person behind it didn't cover his tracks at all, and within 10 minutes people had found his website, name, address, phone number, email, Twitter and Facebook. The culprit is apparently employed by a French PR firm, and he bought the script from someone online.
I'm still hearing this rumor in various corners of the 'net. THEY say that Warren will come out with a plan to introduce some kind of "citizen protection" law for the internet, and this will instantaneously halt and cull the Gamergate movement of it's ability to hide for all it's awful treatment of women named Quinn, Wu, and Something I Can't Spell Right.
But there's three problems with this, that I don't believe anyone hoping for such an outcome is predicting:
There is 0 way to introduce some form of... what, global harassment stopping legislation without severely infringing on the rights of users. Suddenly everyone who supports Net Neutrality and Anonymity online are involved and I don't think people who are interested in those issues would care much for screaming multi-hued SJWs.
Getting a senator involved in something like this will do nothing but harm them. How great was it getting Leiberman, or Clinton, to start investigating violent video games? Because something like this wouldn't just target anonymity, it would start to bleed over, to directly target the gaming industry. Which also would lead...
To wide spread resentment from the industry these people work in for making their lives even more difficult. Suddenly these companies would be facing new laws aimed at keeping detailed records of their forums, of being held liable for things people say over Xbox Live, for the content people make on their own as mods for games.
I honestly hope Warren IS on their side. Because how can you stomp out bullying and misogyny on the internet without overreaching draconian measures that negatively impact the very industry the LWs fucking work in?
You missed the most obvious problem, which is the fact that for a piece of proposed legislation to become law it has to pass both the Senate and the House of Representatives, which is currently controlled by the Republicans. Even if a "citizen protection" law passed the Senate without being filibustered (not likely), it would die in the House.
So, an email was leaked out from Gawker discussing a possible need to police themselves on twitter. Their words are becoming "a pain in the ass" because people have the temerity to use them negatively against the people who said them. Then it gets better, as the various leaders of different Gawker arms chime in to say it's all bullshit that nerd bullies are using smear tactics against them. The irony of these complaints coming from Gawker employees is delicious.
Of course, this applies everywhere. This isn’t about cottoning to the fallacy of our age (ask Slackbot for details). This is about making sure that people can’t use our own ideas and words to undermine the truth of what we’re trying to say.
But this company is for all of us, and when it’s a choice between not tweeting a joke (or apologizing for it to show we can be gracious to even those that aren’t gracious or even rational) and I’d rather shrug it off and put our effort against what we actually do, which is to write pieces that can’t be misconstrued as saying something they are not
So, an email was leaked out from Gawker discussing a possible need to police themselves on twitter. Their words are becoming "a pain in the ass" because people have the temerity to use them negatively against the people who said them. Then it gets better, as the various leaders of different Gawker arms chime in to say it's all bullshit that nerd bullies are using smear tactics against them. The irony of these complaints coming from Gawker employees is delicious.
They don't seem to understand that, given some of the laughable behavior they've displayed so far (GAYMRS R DED!!!!!1111!!), it's hard to tell when they're joking.
