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I'm hoping he'll get some other homeless together and build a real CWCVille. He can be Jim Joneschu.
The new Sonichu temple will be built entirely from cardboard boxes. Until Chris burns it down trying to make coffee again (albeit without a machine).
 
Not sure which thread to ask this, but how long would Chris survive as a homeless?

My experience of the homeless in large UK cities is that there are a surprising number of them who can live for years, decades even.

On one hand They tend to be the ones who are either sympathetic enough that they make enough to scrape by, living in a squat or occasionally a tent and makeshift shelter.
They have periods in the hospital and shelters, and seem to be part of a group of them who watch out for each other.

The others are the aggressive beggar sort who live by intimidating people, be they younger people for “donations” or other beggars to “tax” them for their begging.
Commonly this sort are addicted to drugs, so also resort to theft, burglary, shoplifting, pickpocketing, prostitution and other means.

I hear tell of some who made 200-300 squids a day, which went all up their arms and on sugar.

Anyway digressions aside, the point is that all of the people who survive on the streets are street smart or tough in one or more ways.
Impressive in a tragic way, but our Chris, is a tubby spoiled man child who has never even been in shape and is physically weak.
He has not even had the experience of having to stick up for himself in jail to toughen him a bit.

Realistically, how long would he survive?
The main difference between the health and well-being of bums in the UK vs the US is the NHS. Homeless people can get quality (well, quality by UK standards) healthcare for their scabies, infected track marks, and STIs, where as in the US unless they’re on file for some sort of indigent care, they’re down to pay. Now for Chis, who probably already has a few health concerns, this means leaving them untreated unless he is set up on some sort of Medicaid (hopefully considering he gets his Social Security tard bux).

And off topic, but fuck the beggars in London. I near about broke the fingers of a Paki trying to steal my phone in Holburn while pretending to beg for food. Would have loved to have continued to snap them, but with me being a fair skinned Med, they might of hauled me off for a hate crime against our precious minorities.
 
I'm hoping Chris decides to squat inside the temple after he gets out of jail. Mainly cause I wanna see the sheriff physically remove him, maybe Ethan Ralph will show up to video that too.
 
Not sure which thread to ask this, but how long would Chris survive as a homeless?

There's only one way to know for sure…

But seriously, it depends on a lot of factors, including the local services, the local homeless population, the local drug scene, and so on. I personally suspect Chris will become one of the street crazies who cycles from the streets to jail to a care home to the streets and so on. He could continue in that cycle for years. That's probably the best case scenario.

If the local homeless population is particularly vicious, Chris could be in real trouble, but that generally isn't the case in smaller towns.

If Chris gets into drugs, particularly opioids and especially fentanyl, he's fucked.


Chris couldn’t handle living on the street. He’d be robbed and assaulted within a day.

It depends on the street. Seattle or Portland or Baltimore would eat him alive in minutes. Charlottesville or Richmond might be more lenient. I any case, Chris wouldn't be on the streets very long before doing something to get himself tossed back into jail. Rinse. Repeat.


in the US unless they’re on file for some sort of indigent care, they’re down to pay.

Actually no. Hospitals in the US have a duty to care. They do the minimum necessary to treat indigents and then shuffle them off to social services. They'll keep a record of what's owed, but generally they cover their expenses by charging everyone else more.

It's the working poor who get fucked by U.S. health care.
 
Actually no. Hospitals in the US have a duty to care. They do the minimum necessary to treat indigents and then shuffle them off to social services. They'll keep a record of what's owed, but generally they cover their expenses by charging everyone else more.
I don’t mean Emergency Room or hospital care, I’m sure tons of bums utilize that for a place to sleep since wait times are outrageous. I’m talking about general practice, a homeless person could quite literally live in the same neighborhood as a GP surgery and get regular health care so long as they’re registered with an NHS number. And unlike the American system where they dole out the basics for the ‘needy’, a homeless person could in theory get the same quality of care as anyone else. The cost of medications are drastically cheaper as well, with some being free.

Not advocating for the NHS, frankly I’d rather pay, but it certainly makes for more robust migrants and tramps.
 
This is not the thread for this discussion.

a homeless person could in theory get the same quality of care as anyone else.

That street goes both ways. It also means the average person can't get better care from the NHS than a bum. There's a reason why people travel from the U.K. to the U.S. for health care, and not the other way around.

The cost of medications are drastically cheaper as well, with some being free.

The price of medication can be cheaper, not the cost. Someone, somewhere is paying, just not necessarily the recipient. It's the same everywhere, except in the U.K. the taxpayer takes it in the shorts, while in the U.S. it's other health care customers.

Like I said, it's the working poor who get screwed. But then that's always the case.
 
Convince some weens and orbiters (there’s a few left) to turn it into an actual temple which will also serve as a chrischan museum. Send any money given to the “temple” to charity.
 
This is not the thread for this discussion.



That street goes both ways. It also means the average person can't get better care from the NHS than a bum. There's a reason why people travel from the U.K. to the U.S. for health care, and not the other way around.



The price of medication can be cheaper, not the cost. Someone, somewhere is paying, just not necessarily the recipient. It's the same everywhere, except in the U.K. the taxpayer takes it in the shorts, while in the U.S. it's other health care customers.

Like I said, it's the working poor who get screwed. But then that's always the case.
The point was the average hobo in the UK has better prospects than the average hobo in the US when it comes to healthcare, which was answering a question earlier itt. I wasn’t trying to get into some weird turf war over why the US health system is miles above the NHS. I’ve used both systems and as I said earlier, I’d rather pay.
 
Convince some weens and orbiters (there’s a few left) to turn it into an actual temple which will also serve as a chrischan museum. Send any money given to the “temple” to charity.
They can move the house itself if zoning won’t allow for a temple (I have no idea how that works)
 
This is not the thread for this discussion.
Agreed it's about the fate of the most infamous house on the internet, and it's quickly deteriorating into; hur set stupid Americans cant Even keep their bums free of infected scabs and diseases despite the fact that "free" healthcare isn't free, someone has to pay for someone else being irresponsibly unhealthy.
 
The main difference between the health and well-being of bums in the UK vs the US is the NHS. Homeless people can get quality (well, quality by UK standards) healthcare for their scabies, infected track marks, and STIs, where as in the US unless they’re on file for some sort of indigent care, they’re down to pay. Now for Chis, who probably already has a few health concerns, this means leaving them untreated unless he is set up on some sort of Medicaid (hopefully considering he gets his Social Security tard bux).
The price of medication can be cheaper, not the cost. Someone, somewhere is paying, just not necessarily the recipient. It's the same everywhere, except in the U.K. the taxpayer takes it in the shorts, while in the U.S. it's other health care customers.

Like I said, it's the working poor who get screwed. But then that's always the case.

The US medical insurance for the poor, Medicaid, is not that bad. If you're totally indigent, it can actually be quite good in terms of services for money spent (zero, if you're totally indigent). In states that accepted Medicaid expansion (i.e. states not run by Republicans that opposed it on ideological principles -- it's 100% a win for state budgets so some red states accepted it), the working poor can do okay on it.

It's basically like a shittier version of NHS. The wait times are longer, the facilities are fewer and often far away, and the pain in the ass at obtaining treatment is higher than the NHS, but it works and if you're dirt poor, it's free.

The big problem is that the homeless are often retarded, drug addicted, or mentally ill, and you need serious technical skills to plan and navigate utilizing these services. You have to schedule your appointments, show up on time, then make new appointments with another office, and show up for that, and keep all your shit together. Retards cannot do that. Even relatively non-retarded people cannot do that.

If food were like that, you'd have to carefully schedule your appointments at the grocery office and then get referred to separate appointments at the facilities that provided produce, meat, or breakfast cereal.

THAT is the reason that the homeless use the emergency room so much. You don't need to plan to use it, you just show up and say you're sick. They won't take you unless you are actually seriously sick, which is why the homeless don't get much in the way of preventative health care.

Free clinics help somewhat, and can provide basic services, but there's a huge "missing middle" between patching boo boos and resuscitating from cardiac arrest. You can't get a preventative specialist treatment easily without navigating the bureaucracy, so homeless people either get minor problems fixed (if they're not too insane), or they show up at the emergency room dying.

For the middle class (or in many states, the working poor) in America it's even worse because suddenly you have copays and deductibles on everything, so you have to weigh the cost of thousands of dollars getting some surgery now that will prevent you from winding up hospitalized later.

The NHS sucks in some ways but they still get better outcomes for less money, the big thing being you show up at your doctor and they can provide a relatively simple path onward to treatment that you need.
 
Agreed it's about the fate of the most infamous house on the internet, and it's quickly deteriorating into; hur set stupid Americans cant Even keep their bums free of infected scabs and diseases despite the fact that "free" healthcare isn't free, someone has to pay for someone else being irresponsibly unhealthy.
What part of anything I said makes you draw those conclusions? Why are people getting so assmad over this? Some weird misplaced nationalism? I’m entitled to be able to use both systems and I can say I definitely prefer the US.

Speaking as a hobo who has received health care both places, no.

And that's all the more I'm going to say on this subject in this thread.
Those transatlantic flights must make for dire panhandling.
 
Agreed it's about the fate of the most infamous house on the internet, and it's quickly deteriorating into; hur set stupid Americans cant Even keep their bums free of infected scabs and diseases despite the fact that "free" healthcare isn't free, someone has to pay for someone else being irresponsibly unhealthy.
All right, fine. What do you guys think the 14 Branchland has plumbing wise? Pex, PVC or copper?
 
All right, fine. What do you guys think the 14 Branchland has plumbing wise? Pex, PVC or copper?
That really depends. They used copper and galvanized steel in the US well into the 70s. The house probably was built in the 60s to early 70s, based on visuals (a tax assessor’s website would have the build date), so odds are metal piping. Now, if there’s been plumbing issues that needed to be addressed then I’d imagine they’d replace the original with PVC.
 
Those transatlantic flights must make for dire panhandling.

Ship, actually. Also hobos work. Bums panhandle.


All right, fine. What do you guys think the 14 Branchland has plumbing wise? Pex, PVC or copper?

PEX. It was rebuilt after the fire, and they wouldn't have fucked around with copper. It's not worth the time or labor. Moreover, no plumber is going to risk his ticket on any 40+ year old copper remaining in the house after being occupied for so long by the Chandlers. It's not worth trying to salvage. They'd have stripped out as much as possible to sell for scrap and completely re-piped with PEX.
 
Ship, actually. Also hobos work. Bums panhandle.
Well, that’s one way to get around now that trains are more trouble than they’re worth. But come on bull artist, don’t tell me you’ve never asked an angel for a shiner. It can’t all be spearing biscuits.
 
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