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People have said "But it's only just had a rebuild after the fire", yes it did however it was a partial rebuild not a full tear down and it also had issues before that the first would not have helped, combine that with the crap that survived the first that both Chris and Barb brought back to the house include bags of wet cloth and the associated fungus and insect life contained within, combine that with Barb and Chris's poor general housekeeping the house is almost back to the state it was in shortly before the fire.

The house might be salvageable, but the material cost likely isn't worth it nor the time to do it unless you where doing it yourself as a cheap place to refurbish and live in or rent / flip.

I recently had to deal with fleas in the house and I don't have any pets. God only knows what kinds of pests hide between the hoard of the Chandler residence. We know some form of bugs are there what with Bob's bug bites and Barb's "Holey Buttocks". Probably at least Fleas and Scabies. Fleas won't actually bite people if pets are abundant, so it's unlikely Chris or Barb would notice if they had an infestation of them. Not to mention rodents that have taken up residence. Hell Chris might have been getting bit, got more cats and was like "Da cats kill da bugs".

If I became a Bitcoin multi-millionaire and wanted 14BC, I'd tear the whole thing down, salt the earth and rebuild it as a Chris-Chan museum. Basically, the same house decorated the same way but brand new save for a few salvageable things like the Greenhouse, Gazibo and the Dreaming Studio. Most of 14BC would have to go if it was to become anything people would actually pay money to go to let alone live in.
 
Never gonna happen but I sometimes think 9f how funny it'd be if some regular couple buys the house, maybe flips it, and makes it a rather nice place. Then when Chris is out of jail, he runs back to 14Blc and has a massive meltdown in front of the house until police are called.
 
We know some form of bugs are there what with Bob's bug bites and Barb's "Holey Buttocks". Probably at least Fleas and Scabies. Fleas won't actually bite people if pets are abundant, so it's unlikely Chris or Barb would notice if they had an infestation of them.
I was always curious what got Mr. C so bad. I remember the claim was scabies but Chris said it was a flying insect?
My mom was a crazy dog lady and I remember our house got infested with fleas. When they're so abundant that they're hopping around random surfaces they don't care what they feed off. Maybe you've had a different experience but I seen't it.
Scabies would be horrendous for them because they are microscopic and infest every piece of fabric. Chris has never seemed itchy as hell and there's no way he could avoid contracting them because all you have to do is hug someone or sit on a chair they've used in the past week to catch them.
I've suspected bed bugs could be there, but you really notice those evil fuckers. They can go months without a single meal and still be there. You have to raise the entire houses temperature to like 140° for an extended period and if they're in the walls forget about it. (Interesting fact: they were originally a mite that infested bats. Places with bat colonies are notorious for having them still)
I think the best candidate is a simple flea problem. In the Old South, even a perfectly clean home with no pets can have an issue if near patches of woods and there's a population boom that season.

Never gonna happen but I sometimes think 9f how funny it'd be if some regular couple buys the house, maybe flips it, and makes it a rather nice place. Then when Chris is out of jail, he runs back to 14Blc and has a massive meltdown in front of the house until police are called.
Chris is going to be out of jail WAY sooner than the average Kiwi is guessing. Incest is a wobbler charge in Virginia, which means it can be a misdemeanor or felony. And Heilberg is pushing for some form of diminished capacity plea agreement based on him ordering psych evals. Chris could be released next month if the DA agrees to a misdemeanor. Even if they insist on a felony, they're not going to send him to prison.
The real question is will there be a restraining order between Chris and Barb and will Chris be remanded to a psychiatric facility?
I find the restraining order unlikely as it stands because Barb isn't legally a victim.
They could enhance or add charges as they learn things. I'd be willing to bet that Bella has been contacted by the FBI at this point. If she in anyway encouraged this shit, it's definitely their business because a crime was committed across state lines.
 
Chris is going to be out of jail WAY sooner than the average Kiwi is guessing. Incest is a wobbler charge in Virginia, which means it can be a misdemeanor or felony. And Heilberg is pushing for some form of diminished capacity plea agreement based on him ordering psych evals. Chris could be released next month if the DA agrees to a misdemeanor. Even if they insist on a felony, they're not going to send him to prison.
The real question is will there be a restraining order between Chris and Barb and will Chris be remanded to a psychiatric facility?
I find the restraining order unlikely as it stands because Barb isn't legally a victim.
They could enhance or add charges as they learn things. I'd be willing to bet that Bella has been contacted by the FBI at this point. If she in anyway encouraged this shit, it's definitely their business because a crime was committed across state lines.

They can't restrain Chris from seeing Barb if Barb is not convicted, and if Barb doesn't want such a restriction. What they *can* do as part of an agreement is to ban Chris from cohabitating with Barb, as restrictions on where someone can live/be physically are acceptable as part of a release agreement, at least for whatever the supervisory period is.

For instance, you can be banned from going to bars as part of your release agreement after being convicted of being in a bar brawl. The individual bars don't have to ban you, you just can't go to any bar, even if the bar has no problem with you being there. However they can't ban you from hanging out with the bartenders, etc. as long as it's not at the bar.

The reason for this is you have no control over what another person does. A person can willingly come up to you and you can't be given an unreasonable duty to retreat if that person follows you. On the other hand, a bar is not going to follow you, the only person who decides for you to go to that bar is you.
 
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Chris is going to be out of jail WAY sooner than the average Kiwi is guessing. Incest is a wobbler charge in Virginia, which means it can be a misdemeanor or felony. And Heilberg is pushing for some form of diminished capacity plea agreement based on him ordering psych evals. Chris could be released next month if the DA agrees to a misdemeanor. Even if they insist on a felony, they're not going to send him to prison.
The real question is will there be a restraining order between Chris and Barb and will Chris be remanded to a psychiatric facility?
I find the restraining order unlikely as it stands because Barb isn't legally a victim.
They could enhance or add charges as they learn things. I'd be willing to bet that Bella has been contacted by the FBI at this point. If she in anyway encouraged this shit, it's definitely their business because a crime was committed across state lines.
The next hearing isn't until February so that's optimistic. Also glowies child contacted by the glowies... What is your next joke?
 
They can't restrain Chris from seeing Barb if Barb is not convicted, and if Barb doesn't want such a restriction. What they *can* do as part of an agreement is to ban Chris from cohabitating with Barb, as restrictions on where someone can live/be physically are acceptable as part of a release agreement, at least for whatever the supervisory period is.

For instance, you can be banned from going to bars as part of your release agreement after being convicted of being in a bar brawl. The individual bars don't have to ban you, you just can't go to any bar, even if the bar has no problem with you being there. However they can't ban you from hanging out with the bartenders, etc. as long as it's not at the bar.
Is Barb the bartender in this scenario?
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They can't restrain Chris from seeing Barb if Barb is not convicted, and if Barb doesn't want such a restriction. What they *can* do as part of an agreement is to ban Chris from cohabitating with Barb, as restrictions on where someone can live/be physically are acceptable as part of a release agreement, at least for whatever the supervisory period is.
If the state declares someone incompetent, which I'm assuming has or will been done since Barb hasn't been charged but Chris isn't accused of rape, they can issue a protective order on her behalf.

Have people been collecting all public documents on this? I would assume so but haven't delved into the depths of the threads. There's probably a lot of motions and such that have been missed

The next hearing isn't until February so that's optimistic. Also glowies child contacted by the glowies... What is your next joke?
FBI agents themselves get sent to prison all the time. And this wasn't some glow-op so what motive would they have to cover it up? Sure, her Dad might be able to pull some strings but I don't gather that he was ever that important. I had really hoped the weens would have rattled the FBI's cage a little more. But knowing them this whole situation is hilarious
 
I was always curious what got Mr. C so bad. I remember the claim was scabies but Chris said it was a flying insect?
My mom was a crazy dog lady and I remember our house got infested with fleas. When they're so abundant that they're hopping around random surfaces they don't care what they feed off. Maybe you've had a different experience but I seen't it.


It's my first time dealing with them. My personal experience is different from the standard flea story because there are no pets here nor has their been an animal here since March. The visit wasn't long term either. Despite the hardiness of fleas, they have very specific desires/needs/attractions. They hate human blood, have trouble reproducing with it, are stimulated by movement and body heat to begin their life cycle, and love humid conditions. While it seems some fleas and their eggs took residence in my room (where the cat was and where I work online) they didn't seem to be anywhere else. It's likely because human blood was the only thing available and they struggle reproducing with it. Sure it could have been a lot worse and spread to the rest of the house, but I had trouble finding evidence of them outside of the bites and some flea dirt. Most people with flea issues have animals that spread it throughout the house and once the fleas can no longer compete for animal feeding do they bite humans. The Exterminator even was puzzled that I had a hard time finding them, because he believed that from the number of bites they should be throughout the house, but no one else got bit.

Now this episode began in December, so it could have gotten worse but was dealt within 3 weeks. 3 weeks is a lot of time for a house wide infestation, but my human blood was not enough to maintain a population that spread further from my bedroom in that time period. Furthermore, fleas are lazy and they'd rather lay eggs in the nearby carpet than use their energy to search the house for fresh victims. Usually, flea eggs are spread by pets.

Now let's get from TMI back to Chris Chan. The Chandlers have poor eye sight and are fairly unobservant. Something that is dark and that ranges in size from a grain of sand to a quarter of the size of a pebble is likely to go unobserved in 14bc. Top that off with the plentiful animal prey (Chandler Cats, Dogs, Stray Cats, and possible rodents) they wouldn't likely receive very many bites. Also there are many areas of 14bc that is used as storage that hide flea predators like Spiders and ants as well as the Hoard itself creating unfavorable conditions for fleas to multiply in, and its likely they move around unnoticed. Additionally, Virginia isn't the Deep South, and winter does come by to do its work in killing off fleas depending on what the indoor heating conditions are like. It's important to think of 14 Branchland Court not as a home but an ecosystem at this point, with all manners of bugs, animals, bacteria, fungus and shaded areas.

I suppose an argument could be made that the house should be ridden due to the animals, but with stray animals (including rats where rat shit has been seen before I believe at the rental home which was an upgrade) coming and going, with natural predators lurking everywhere and with Chris' and Barb's obliviousness, it can at least be inferred that the population is under some sort of natural control that a careless middle class suburbanite with 1 dog in a decent home wouldn't have. There are also other weird things with flies, like how they hate certain pleasant scents such as lavender, mint, cedarwood, rosemary, citrus and eucalyptus as well, I think there is a reason Bob got bit really bad and not Barb or Chris Chan trooning out. Most women have pleasant, scented soaps, body lotion and shampoo that fleas find disgusting. They'll still bite if desperate regardless but they'd rather not whereas most men don't use those kinds of products.

As for the Scabies thing, it's confirmed here: https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Barbara_Chandler#.22Holey_buttocks.22

On October 14, 2013, Chris elaborated in a Facebook post, stating, "my mother stresses me with her continuous rants about her damn miniature scabie flies, her suffering, the low finances and shit!!!"

Apologies for the Autistic explanation and personal story, but I felt it necessary to kind of detail the weird behaviour of fleas in relation to humans.

Scabies would be horrendous for them because they are microscopic and infest every piece of fabric. Chris has never seemed itchy as hell and there's no way he could avoid contracting them because all you have to do is hug someone or sit on a chair they've used in the past week to catch them.
I've suspected bed bugs could be there, but you really notice those evil fuckers. They can go months without a single meal and still be there. You have to raise the entire houses temperature to like 140° for an extended period and if they're in the walls forget about it. (Interesting fact: they were originally a mite that infested bats. Places with bat colonies are notorious for having them still)
I think the best candidate is a simple flea problem. In the Old South, even a perfectly clean home with no pets can have an issue if near patches of woods and there's a population boom that season.

I believe that Chris is more health conscious than many would like to believe. Not in a preventive, hygienic sense but in a "what can I buy to get rid of this" kind of sense. I imagine they spend good money on healthcare or exterminators every year or 2. Not that they get check ups but on an Emergency level.

As for scabies, I believe it's similar to the flea situation where Barb isn't the preferred target of the mites. I don't know enough about scabies to be honest to guess why Chris didn't get them.

As for Bed Bugs, they're a bit of a meme concern in my opinion. They're the Nuclear ICBM of the bug world that everyone is afraid of. Anytime someone gets bug bites at home, Bed Bugs are the suspect. People are so concerned about Bed Bugs that in my personal experience, they're equivalent to folklore. I saw a Bed Bug once in a basement bedroom I was renting from many years ago, caught in a spider's web and my landlady freaked the fuck out even though nothing resulted from it. While they are the devil itself, they're either overly looked out for in polite society that they're very rare or they exist in bubbles in areas and are not really as widespread as believed.

The only times I've heard of bedbug infestations is from third-worlders or poorer people renting cheap motels in 3rd world countries and bringing it back home. It's not really something that Chris Chan who never travels nor invites vagrants back, nor visits cheap illegal immigrant prostitutes is really going to have in his house. I could be wrong, maybe you can enlighten me. If someone got bug bites, I'd suspect more so anything but bed bugs.
 
FBI agents themselves get sent to prison all the time. And this wasn't some glow-op so what motive would they have to cover it up? Sure, her Dad might be able to pull some strings but I don't gather that he was ever that important. I had really hoped the weens would have rattled the FBI's cage a little more. But knowing them this whole situation is hilarious
The current feds are more interested in creating extremists than Tards who rape their mothers and Bella just stumbled on the incest. Her original plan was to film Chris fucking Fiona and somehow get him to kill himself.... You're overthinking the fungal toe's importance and competence.
 
Bella just stumbled on the incest.
I highly fucking doubt that. How would a video of Chris getting laid make him want to kill himself more than any of the other faggy videos/pics he's posted? She was looking for something horrific and I'm she had a hand in making it happen. You don't have to be an evil mastermind to fuck with Chris's head. Picklemen, leafs, 13 year olds, and tranny teenagers have all been competent enough to do so
 
Never gonna happen but I sometimes think 9f how funny it'd be if some regular couple buys the house, maybe flips it, and makes it a rather nice place. Then when Chris is out of jail, he runs back to 14Blc and has a massive meltdown in front of the house until police are called.
It’s not impossible. Predicting Chris’s sentence is really difficult given all we don’t know, though.

People are way too obsessed with Bella.
 
FBI agents themselves get sent to prison all the time. And this wasn't some glow-op so what motive would they have to cover it up? Sure, her Dad might be able to pull some strings but I don't gather that he was ever that important. I had really hoped the weens would have rattled the FBI's cage a little more. But knowing them this whole situation is hilarious
The current feds are more interested in creating extremists than Tards who rape their mothers and Bella just stumbled on the incest. Her original plan was to film Chris fucking Fiona and somehow get him to kill himself.... You're overthinking the fungal toe's importance and competence.
I highly fucking doubt that. How would a video of Chris getting laid make him want to kill himself more than any of the other faggy videos/pics he's posted? She was looking for something horrific and I'm she had a hand in making it happen. You don't have to be an evil mastermind to fuck with Chris's head. Picklemen, leafs, 13 year olds, and tranny teenagers have all been competent enough to do so
You're putting too much on a trust fund brat who is almost Chris Chan herself.. And Chris... The shit he will volunteer for honest content, he was teasing null about it ffs. Go back and read his message to null about his older lover and line things up. Chris was gonna drop that shit to someone at some point.
 
You're putting too much on a trust fund brat who is almost Chris Chan herself.. And Chris... The shit he will volunteer for honest content, he was teasing null about it ffs. Go back and read his message to null about his older lover and line things up. Chris was gonna drop that shit to someone at some point.
Regardless of her weird/horrific personal shit, she's smarter than a 13 year old boy and Blue Spike was able to really hurt Chris.
I'm fully aware of the message to Josh. I'm talking about before it started happening.
She was involved with him well before that message. I have zero reason to believe that she didn't encourage/influence him to do it and I'm curious what leads you to believe she didn't. "Haha dumb stink girl" isn't valid reasoning to me
 
Regardless of her weird/horrific personal shit, she's smarter than a 13 year old boy and Blue Spike was able to really hurt Chris.
I'm fully aware of the message to Josh. I'm talking about before it started happening.
She was involved with him well before that message. I have zero reason to believe that she didn't encourage/influence him to do it and I'm curious what leads you to believe she didn't. "Haha dumb stink girl" isn't valid reasoning to me
Since her thing is animals she'd possibly have gone that angle first? We are talking one of the taboos we never think of. Also spike was years ago and that trolling became less effective as time rode on. Have tits and a vag.... Chris is more willing to listen, no massive secret there.
 
Since her thing is animals she'd possibly have gone that angle first? We are talking one of the taboos we never think of.
I mean maybe. I don't think animals are directly her thing though. It seems she enjoys power over anything weaker than her. Animals, other girls, retards etc.
How long would someone completely new take to study the lore and come to the conclusion that sex and his mother are his greatest weak points?
Chris's incest apologist Facebook post comes up fairly early in the Geno Samuel doc.
 
If the state declares someone incompetent, which I'm assuming has or will been done since Barb hasn't been charged but Chris isn't accused of rape, they can issue a protective order on her behalf.

They can't simply declare Barb incompetent on a dime. That's a relatively long legal process of conservatorship. They did serve an emergency protective order, which can be given simply on the say-so of the police, but those only last for two weeks.

As has been explained many times before, Barb does not have to be declared incapacitated for her to not be charged. Prosecutors choose who they charge and don't have to give any legal reason why, it's entirely up to them. Barb could go rape and murder a toddler and not be charged (though in that case there would be public uproar and the prosecutor would be quickly replaced with someone who WOULD charge Barb).
 
How long would someone completely new take to study the lore and come to the conclusion that sex and his mother are his greatest weak points?
Chris's incest apologist Facebook post comes up fairly early in the Geno Samuel doc.

While GenoSamuel's documentary gives one a good chronological understanding of Christory, it does leave out a lot of the nuance and random pieces of information that reading the Cwcki doesn't.

Coming to the conclusion when first being exposed to Chris that sex is his greatest weakness is to be expected.

However if you've spent 8-10 hours reading the CWCKI one would come to realize that Chris' greatest weakness isn't sex, let alone his mother, but his own ego. His narcissism.

It was through Chris' ego that the Idea Guys (and other successful trolls), arguably the worst Chris-Chan trolls until Bella, were able to manipulate him into crashing his brain. Had that dumb bitch been around in 2015, she'd be left crying as to why Chris wasn't returning her calls. Trolling Chris looks easy but does take some talent and luck. Merely having or saying you have ladyparts isn't going to cut it. Chris, even back in the Classic era, had multiple suitresses to choose from, the ones everyone knows about were the successful ones. Ones with the right look, voice, personality etc.
 
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However if you've spent 8-10 hours reading the CWCKI one would come to realize that Chris' greatest weakness isn't sex, let alone his mother, but his own ego. His narcissism.
I meant weakness as in attack vector. If you crush his ego sure you've trolled him, but that's true of everyone. If you're using flattery and ball fanning to get close to him, again that works for almost everyone.
Not everyone is a sexual deviant with an extremely weird relationship with their mother.
 
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