Future of the House

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

Okay- let's assume the house gets a foreclosure and the bank tries to sell it off to prospective homebuyers:

Would you want anything to do with this property?

Aside from arguably being the most doxed place in the entire solar system- there's the infestations of pests and other health concerns thanks to the hoard which means it is very likely to be condemned regardless, and if not it might even cost more to renovate than the original listing price. I also can't imagine Ruckersville Virginia being a very highly-esteemed place for prospective homeowners to want to start a family, much like West Memphis, Arkansas. A plot of land for homesteading in many places out west like Texas or Utah would be infinitely cheaper and often times would give homeowners more legal protections.

One of the good things going for 14 Branchland is that it was partially rebuilt and the interior redone. The Chandlers also seem like the type that if the hot water went out, or the heat, they'd call for someone to come fix it, so it's not so bad since the utilities have been working.

Gutting the place and any carpet, putting in new carpet, paint, etc... plus all the outside work would make it into a nice house. That community he lives in is very neighborly; the times I drove past, the entire neighborhood had kids running around and people out talking to each other.

The fire cleansed the initial Chandler malaise from the decades they lived there, so that's a plus.

Southern democrats aren’t always socially progressive. I thought I read on the wiki that she was a dem, but now I can’t find it.

I think that was Chris dragging her to the last election and voting for Lisa Simpson. I seem to recall he dragged Barb to the polls in 2016 and said they voted for Hillary.

 

[Yksi_Toveri]

Gutting the place and any carpet, putting in new carpet, paint, etc...

Probably would still smell of smoke damage, black mold and hot garbage. Would probably need a couple of coats of Killz on the interior. If someone flipper got a good deal on it, say by picking up the remaining mortgage after foreclosure (you can do that in my State, not sure about VA), they could probably still make a nice profit even with all the work it would need.

 

[Mick92]

I will turn it into the world's first luxury Rosechu brothel.

 

[A Traveler]

Most likely its gonna be bulldozed. It's what happens to a lot of hoarder houses when there's no one to take it. With Chris most likely going to jail, and Barb probably get sent to a home. She might end up dying in the home as what happens to some hoarders BC14 probably won't be with us much longer I'm afraid.

 

[Un Platano]

Most likely its gonna be bulldozed. It's what happens to a lot of hoarder houses when there's no one to take it. With Chris most likely going to jail, and Barb probably get sent to a home. She might end up dying in the home as what happens to some hoarders BC14 probably won't be with us much longer I'm afraid.

Generally that happens due to damage from mold, water or chemicals, not due to the hoard itself. Even when they do demolish those houses they have to clean them out beforehand anyway because they have to check for hazardous substances, so it's not simply a way to avoid cleaning up the hoard. Besides that, paying a cleaning company to haul out bucketloads of trash for a few days is cheap compared to the potential value of a structure, so that's never a reason alone that they would condemn and demolish it.

While we do know the state of trash in 14BC, we don't know what it looks like inside the walls, which is what's actually of concern when they demolish these houses. What we do know is that it was intact enough in 2014 that their insurance paid to fix the damage then instead of declaring it a total loss. Given that it survived as long as it did, it's unlikely that the house has become unsalvageable in the 6 years that have passed since the last major repairs. For that reason I think 14BC is likely to end up with a house flipper when the Chandlers are gone.

 

[Guardsman42]

IIRC didn't some one relatively recently sneak around the property and show the conditions on the outside and there was an actual plant or some thing growing from the chandler home? Through the wall or some thing?

I'm pretty sure that's a telling sign that it might also be condemned if it's structurally unsafe in the end. I don't remember if that was a video pre or post fire now though.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Holy fuck, what if a dedicated ween buys the property and moves in. They could even flip it for a profit since it will undoubtedly go up in value after Barb dies and someone renovates/replaces 14BC.

They'll move in and redesign the home minecraft style with a trans flag skin. They'll spray paint translivesmatter on the driveway. All of this will endure 14BC is never sold and Chris will get to live inside the walls breeding with the rest of the vermin living on the grounds.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Generally that happens due to damage from mold, water or chemicals, not due to the hoard itself. Even when they do demolish those houses they have to clean them out beforehand anyway because they have to check for hazardous substances, so it's not simply a way to avoid cleaning up the hoard. Besides that, paying a cleaning company to haul out bucketloads of trash for a few days is cheap compared to the potential value of a structure, so that's never a reason alone that they would condemn and demolish it.

While we do know the state of trash in 14BC, we don't know what it looks like inside the walls, which is what's actually of concern when they demolish these houses. What we do know is that it was intact enough in 2014 that their insurance paid to fix the damage then instead of declaring it a total loss. Given that it survived as long as it did, it's unlikely that the house has become unsalvageable in the 6 years that have passed since the last major repairs. For that reason I think 14BC is likely to end up with a house flipper when the Chandlers are gone.

IIRC didn't some one relatively recently sneak around the property and show the conditions on the outside and there was an actual plant or some thing growing from the chandler home? Through the wall or some thing?

I'm pretty sure that's a telling sign that it might also be condemned if it's structurally unsafe in the end. I don't remember if that was a video pre or post fire now though.

It depends on how much the house is worth if it's simply refurbed again from top to bottom or if its simply cheaper to build new. As pointed out earlier in the thread, the price of lumber having gone up may in fact save the house by a slim margin.

But looking back - the rental that the Chandlers stayed in for a relatively short period was presumably so ruined by their stay that at least several months after they'd left, the house was still not occupied. An unoccupied house isn't making money on rent so one can only imagine what the homeowner had to do in order to render it in a livable condition for people who aren't crazy trailer trash.

With 14BC, I'd imagine it would have to be stripped down to its frame again simply to remove any and all traces of the Chandlers, their pets, and the relative uncleanliness of them all. The shed of broken hopes and dreams in the back will be demolished as it's an eyesore, as will Patti's doghouse (though will the land owners actually know Patti is buried under it?). But at that point, stripping it down simply to salvage the framework would allow it to be brought up to current standard and probably be upgraded as well simply to get a bigger return on investment as either way, a LOT of money needs to be sunk into that house to make it saleable.

 

[King Metalia]

The shed of broken hopes and dreams in the back will be demolished as it's an eyesore

I would pay good money for the plaque Bob put on said shed of broken hopes and dreams.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

a LOT of money needs to be sunk into that house to make it saleable.

To think, Bob sunk a lot of money into that house, so in the end his family devalues is. Although Bob was alive when most of the devaluing happened when Barb started hoarding things. I would say, he was thinking to leaving Chris the house (was it part of the inheritance? Or was it just money?). I assume during the last decade or at least 5 years of his life, as much a Bob loved Chris, I don't think he could trust his son to look over his house after years of Chris becoming uninterested in grown up stuff and saga after saga of failure and Chris getting into trouble.

 

[Optimus Prime]

To think, Bob sunk a lot of money into that house, so in the end his family devalues is. Although Bob was alive when most of the devaluing happened when Barb started hoarding things. I would say, he was thinking to leaving Chris the house (was it part of the inheritance? Or was it just money?). I assume during the last decade or at least 5 years of his life, as much a Bob loved Chris, I don't think he could trust his son to look over his house after years of Chris becoming uninterested in grown up stuff and saga after saga of failure and Chris getting into trouble.

I think Bob legitimately was trying to understand his son as evidenced by what he says about Sonichu in his last letter to Chris, but at the same time it was Bob who put Chris on the tugboat by (rightfully) assuming Chris wouldn't be able to hold a steady job.

I also do not think there really WAS a plan for what happened after his death, since Bob died rather suddenly.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

Now that Chris will be spending more time in jail, I wonder if the bank knows that there's been no payments the last few months? Or Barb, like Chris, has been taking money from his account to make up for the monthly payments.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Now that Chris will be spending more time in jail, I wonder if the bank knows that there's been no payments the last few months? Or Barb, like Chris, has been taking money from his account to make up for the monthly payments.

Chris is definitely still receiving his tugboat. I suspect that Barb is managing it and making the payments, and possibly depositing some in Chris' commissary account. Remember the EPO was only for 2 weeks max, so unless there has been a new order, there is nothing preventing this.

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

I would gut everything, replace the carpet with rubber flooring that looks like wood, put in whole house air conditioning, heating, and a generator. Of course, anything that is historical will be saved. Removing anything that is junk will be tossed.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

I suspect that Barb is managing it and making the payments, and possibly depositing some in Chris' commissary account.

Does the EPO go both ways? I assume Barb was told by authorities not to make contact with Chris. I'd imagine that's like a surviving murder victim keeping in contact with their suspect killer.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Good morning and sorry for my english - I'm not very fluent AND I also try to wrote in other style that usual.

I see two options of the House. Or maybye the Hoard? In both 14BC will be bought by a flipper from bank after foreclosure.

Option one - "good flipper".

Good flipper is a type of flipper that didn't have time or will to be a junk-minning psycho.

He will just hire some company to take the pill of failure away and probably it will be recycled or thrown away on a junkyard (idk, I'm not know about enivromental rules in Virginia or how their are solving trash stuff). In this timeline hoard will be loaded up and carried out 14BC in less than week after flipper get keys to it. Probably nothnig from hoard will go to market (ebay), and the few things that will not be recycled or destroyed will end in theft shops or simillar facility with no sings of their history. Just You know, w bulk of not-so-damaged legos in sad, virginian theift shop buyed by locall poor-people for their child.

Option two - "vergy greedy flipper" or "wannabe flipper".

This type of flipper is a greed driven monster with small portfolio (why - because this kind of people don't flip much properties and their probably had no income separate from flipping OR just like it).

In this case the flipper will search the hoard by his very own hands (or his enslaved relatives), and it will sell (or try to sell) anything that seems to have at least one cent of worth. He will carefully collect all of games, videos, electronics, jewerly, even clothes from that shit and will try to sell it on cheapest and fastest way he will have in mind. Maybye he/she will point out that Chirs Chan was Chris Chan and have some fame and will use that knowleadge to increase price of some things (this is the only way to retrive some relics by community - all of relics are just trash for peoples not aware who is Chris Chan), but probably didn't point it out and will sell only things that have some worth without info "this was a property of Chris).

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In both options the House will be - after cleaning and cheap renovation - sold again to someone who will not be aware about Chris or just didn't care about Chandlers history. In few years after Chris absence on social media fame will be gone, and this will be just a typicall house in suburb. Nothing special.

I'm also pretty sure, that no one from kiwiforums or the wide community of weens, trolls, followers and so one and so far will even try to buy 14BC. It isn't a gadget for few dollars, nor a relic for few thousand dollars. It is a house, You know, a thing that costs at least 150k USD. I'm not sure that any one will just throw away that cash for a ruined house and do nothing to earn on it. Theoreticall, if one brave will start a fundraise for securing that house and raise enough cash it is possible to rescue 14BC from sad ending, but that must be some one better that a random with one post.

 

[Optimus Prime]

In both options the House will be - after cleaning and cheap renovation - sold again to someone who will not be aware about Chris or just didn't care about Chandlers history. In few years after Chris absence on social media fame will be gone, and this will be just a typicall house in suburb. Nothing special.

I'm not so sure. There's a house in my city where a brutal multiple homicde took place where some dude snapped and killed his entire family before offing himself. This happened in like, the 70s.

Every now and then if the news cycle is slow, the local paper will run a story about how the current homeowner still has people coming up to them and asking if they are somehow not aware of the bloody murders.

While Chris isn't a brutal murderer, the people in that housing area most likely will NEVER forget having to be the neighbors of the Chandlers.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Does the EPO go both ways? I assume Barb was told by authorities not to make contact with Chris. I'd imagine that's like a surviving murder victim keeping in contact with their suspect killer.

They can go both ways but they don't have to, but that's irrelevant.

Read my last post agian: EPOs are temporary emergency orders. (the "E" and "O" in the acronym). In Virginia they last for 2 weeks max. That is meant to give you time to get a more formal restraining order, though you can issue another EPO if necessary for some reason. Given that Chris went to jail less than 48 hours after it took effect, they probably did not bother to renew it, since they were probably mostly concerned about Barb's physical safety.

EDIT: Since Barb is under her own care right now, they probably have not declared any sort of guardianship over her. Thus a restraining order would probably have to be requested by Barb. A no-contact order could possibly be part of a bail agreement, but Chris has been denied bail.

I'm also pretty sure, that no one from kiwiforums or the wide community of weens, trolls, followers and so one and so far will even try to buy 14BC. It isn't a gadget for few dollars, nor a relic for few thousand dollars. It is a house, You know, a thing that costs at least 150k USD. I'm not sure that any one will just throw away that cash for a ruined house and do nothing to earn on it. Theoreticall, if one brave will start a fundraise for securing that house and raise enough cash it is possible to rescue 14BC from sad ending, but that must be some one better that a random with one post.

In my case I wasn't talking about buying 14BC, I was talking about buying the house next door that's currently on the market. Hold onto it, and the property value will go up when 14BC is demolished/renovated, without you having to spend a cent yourself (other than property taxes and basic upkeep, which can be offset by renting to weens or something). Sell house at a profit. 14BC is actively hurting the property values of neighboring properties, but that will change once Barb is gone.

 

[Governor Rocknar]

Most likely its gonna be bulldozed. It's what happens to a lot of hoarder houses when there's no one to take it. With Chris most likely going to jail, and Barb probably get sent to a home. She might end up dying in the home as what happens to some hoarders BC14 probably won't be with us much longer I'm afraid.

Not necessarily. A real estate agent can get ServPro in 14BLC and sterilize the fuck out of everything.

"ServPro - Like it never even happened."

 

[Ophelia]

I think Bob legitimately was trying to understand his son as evidenced by what he says about Sonichu in his last letter to Chris,

I’m somehow unfamiliar with this.

I also do not think there really WAS a plan for what happened after his death, since Bob died rather suddenly.

He had the house paid off, at least. He knew he was getting old.