I have some experience with frostbite from time spent working in a hospital and in the military (cold weather unit).
Frostbite is measured in degrees like a burn according to the depth of the frostbite: First degree is surface damage (frost nip) and affected areas look red, like a sunburn with reddening of the skin. Second degree has some depth down into the muscle tissue (superficial frostbite) and affected areas look white/light blue to blue. Third is has full depth into the muscular tissues down to the bone (deep or severe frostbite), it looks dark blue to black depending on how long the affected area is frozen, longer time frozen means darker color.
The pictures of his injuries and the various colors shown are indicative of frostbite in the post thaw stages, not a from loss of circulation.
In the above photo from his twitter you can clearly see bullae (lesions/blisters) on the right wrist forming a "cuff" and one on the area on left wrist. That is what superficial frostbite injuries after thawing look like, big lesions/blisters (bullae) which form when the area is thawed (freezing breaks the cell walls and "blisters" form when thawed).
Deep frostbite looks dark blue to black depending on how long it occurred (hours to days), after thawed affected areas swell up and go through a cycle of colors (that depend on the initial coloration of the area) and can vary from blackish, dark blue, purple, dark red, or red. Tissue is generally removed after thawing as soon as it's apparent that it is in an unrecoverable state to reduce the chance of further tissue damage from necrosis and gangrene.
My guess is that they thawed his hands, then bandaged them in the hopes that it was not as severe as it appeared (that some tissue would be able to recover due to relatively short term exposure of hours not days), but this was not the case and thus they had to amputate.
I can't speak on his state of mind, he may have done it on purpose or it could be a stupid accident, but it was definitely frostbite injuries which resulted in his amputations.
Wow thank you for taking the time to write that up! I actually came away learning something worthwhile.
What are your thoughts on the speed in which his hands were amputated? I found his removal of the dressings after 3 days to be oddly strange, as well as his ability to adapt so quickly. Even if it is frost bite it's bizarre how quickly the whole ordeal went.
Wow thank you for taking the time to write that up! I actually came away learning something worthwhile.
What are your thoughts on the speed in which his hands were amputated? I found his removal of the dressings after 3 days to be oddly strange, as well as his ability to adapt so quickly. Even if it is frost bite it's bizarre how quickly the whole ordeal went.
In cases where tissue damage (especially dead or necrotizing tissue) is localized to small area (like spots of deep frostbite or Brown Recluse bite), that tissue has to be removed and potential infections risks like sepsis (blood poisoning) and staph can be handled by treatment with antibiotics, though you closely monitor them to make sure they don't get worse. In extreme cases like this on an extremity you can't remove the damaged tissue at first because your hoping for the best result from treatment, but when the tests hit a certain threshold for infection it's just safer for the patient to remove the tissue (amputate) and carry on with antibiotics.
My guess is that as soon as they had his hands thawing (a slow process in itself to try and minimize damage) they put him on a course of antibiotics and began running tests on short intervals for signs of dead tissue, tissue necrosis and infections such as sepsis or staph. Dead tissue and necrosis leads to infections such as sepsis very quickly, so I am bet they were already talking about the high possibility of required amputations for long term survival in the ER during initial treatment, prior to admitted him to the hospital proper.
Surgical amputations are different from emergency amputations (what most people picture in their minds from movies and TV). In a surgical amputation they make an incision below the point where they intend to amputate and gently peel the layers of tissue back to the point of amputation, cut the bone then wrap the saved tissue over the bone to form a stump and suture it closed. Once closed the person goes through post OP recovery, normal surgical wound treatment with regular checks for sepsis, staph and a course of antibiotics from there on till and possibly after discharge. A fairly quick removal of the bandages in a hospital environment isn't unusual these days, though he's likely bandaged and having to change those on a regular basis for for a few more days (basically the same as having any other wound closed with stitches).
He may have adapted fairly well so far, but he has months of recovery and physical therapy in front of him. In my limited experience I've seen people take an amputation in stride and have few issues with it because they were a strong person and just glad to be alive, and I have seen some people fall apart because they felt incomplete or couldn't do something temporarily just as easily. I only met one person that I think may have had body integrity dysphoria, it started with a car accident where he had a hand surgically repaired and after recovery and rehab complained about his hand not "feeling right". This was followed by two accidents with that hand in the next two years, each a bit worse than the previous but not as bad as the initial car accident (a really deep cut requiring surgical repair and hell of a burn) and then finally a year later he had a accident that crushed his hand (all three accidents at work so workman comp/company insurance covered it all).
The way we live in clown world now, who knows what is on this guys mind, it may have been an stupid accident and he's just a strong person, it may be he planned it out and wants paws, it could be mix of both, it could be body integrity dysphoria, who knows, we'll have to judge that later on depending on if he shows up with prosthetic paws or prosthetic hands.
It's not weird, it's creepy. people are at their most vulnerable and easy to manipulate when they are at their lowest. They are most susceptible to him swooping in and love bombing them them.
he's just a predator going after easy prey
There's this one furry predator known as SinisterTaz (Betawolf) that waits for an artist he likes to have a serious financial crisis before waving huge wads of cash in their face all for them... If they draw cub rape/ cub snuff commissions for him. Usually with subject matter that goes completely against their values. It was not the actual commission he wanted, it was watching someone honorable break and abandon their morals in the face of crisis. How low could he force someone to go?
Well, I can see that there's at least cause for suspicion based on how he reacted and how using dry ice is pretty foolish. But I'm not going to shit on somebody unless I know for sure that they deserve it. From his twitter, he just seemed like a run of the mill furry to me so I really couldn't say. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.
This dude’s recent history of self-medication is really alarming. Don’t mix medications with alcohol and don’t use dry ice for anything. Just use a regular goddamn ice pack. Assuming that he’s for real, of course, I’ve never heard anyone say that dry ice is to be used for medical purposes, much less home remedies. In addition, if he was attaching it to his joints why does the damage actually look more like he dunked his hands in a bucket of something? I’m not an expert, and I’m willing to believe either side of the debate should they provide a proper explanation and reasonable evidence, but like, I can’t see dry ice being seen as a home remedy by anyone when a simple ice pack is cheaper, safer, and easier to find and use.
Wait we're talking about someone trying to heal themselves with dry ice AND someone trying to mutilate themselves with a scalpel at the same time? Oh how the stars align.
This dude’s recent history of self-medication is really alarming. Don’t mix medications with alcohol and don’t use dry ice for anything. Just use a regular goddamn ice pack. Assuming that he’s for real, of course, I’ve never heard anyone say that dry ice is to be used for medical purposes, much less home remedies. In addition, if he was attaching it to his joints why does the damage actually look more like he dunked his hands in a bucket of something? I’m not expert, and I’m willing to believe either side of the debate should they provide a proper explanation and reasonable evidence, but like, I can’t see dry ice being seen as a home remedy by anyone when a simple ice pack is cheaper, safer, and easier to find and use.
I'm more surprised to see people talking about how this person is a hero and a trooper and brave for getting amputated. He did try to use dry ice, something every adult should know is a fucking stupid idea, as a treatment for arthritis. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes I guess
Wait we're talking about someone trying to heal themselves with dry ice AND someone trying to mutilate themselves with a scalpel at the same time? Oh how the stars align.
I'm more surprised to see people talking about how this person is a hero and a trooper and brave for getting amputated. He did try to use dry ice, something every adult should know is a fucking stupid idea, as a treatment for arthritis. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes I guess
I mean, I do feel bad for the guy, but he’s not some sort of hero. He’s the victim of his own stupid self-medication. Assuming that narrative is true, of course. I have no clue which is real and I’m not gonna pretend to know. All I know is that passing out on painkillers while in dry ice would be a good remedy for anything and I fail to see how anyone would think it’s a good idea.
Eh. I've known the person in question for quite a while, they've been doing this stuff for months on end and this is like the first time it comes to light. Highly doubt it's a troll, but we'll just have to wait and see if they either die from those shady black market painkillers or come on twitter to whine about how they're in intense pain and shock, and then bleed out before they can even read any of the "told you so" replies.
So oldish news from just over a week ago. But Kuroodod has stated he will continue to make his popular Pokemon Comic slowly, despite being hit with DMCAs. He is also insisting that he is making no money off of the comic as he continues it, yet he then plugs his Patreon directly below the statement. Should we place bets on how long it takes Nintendo to smack him down again?
So oldish news from just over a week ago. But Kuroodod has stated he will continue to make his popular Pokemon Comic slowly, despite being hit with DMCAs. He is also insisting that he is making no money off of the comic as he continues it, yet he then plugs his Patreon directly below the statement. Should we place bets on how long it takes Nintendo to smack him down again?
I think he does have a decent amount of anal vore images, but I haven’t seen an assload of them (buh dum tish!). Mostly he just draws specialized Pokémon and/or specialized Pokémon recolors and shit.
I think he does have a decent amount of anal vore images, but I haven’t seen an assload of them (buh dum tish!). Mostly he just draws specialized Pokémon and/or specialized Pokémon recolors and shit.
If Nintendo's given them a DMCA once, they'll do it again or possibly go to the owners of the site with it. He's on their radar, and he's not anything they'd want to have associated with their IP, let alone an IP with a new core game coming out soon. All company are morally gray and with this guy tarnishing their family friendly rep and making money off of it by plugging their patreon I'm sure they'll slowly escalate things till this dude wipes off his own internet history.
I went back and read the comments on Kuro's journal, I'm aware Inkbunny is just full of mouth-breathing spergs but I'm still somehow surprised by how bad it is.
I don't think it's worth the effort or emotions of getting shocked or offended (because there's so much worse, and especially on InkBunny), but Nintendo did do something. They sent him a cease and desist notice a few months back. It was funny.
He may have adapted fairly well so far, but he has months of recovery and physical therapy in front of him. In my limited experience I've seen people take an amputation in stride and have few issues with it because they were a strong person and just glad to be alive, and I have seen some people fall apart because they felt incomplete or couldn't do something temporarily just as easily.
Or in this case, even worse, because he idiotically cut off his hands and is a gimp for life. The momentary rush of attention will soon be gone, but he'll still need someone to wipe his ass forever. Realizing what he's done once he's no longer a celebrity but just some gimp will bring back whatever the fuck about his life he was trying to run away from in the first place, but worse.
Wouldn't be surprised if he kills himself in a year or two.
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