Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

[JoRo]

So recently radrad decided to “retire” from dsp content and actually thanks Fred for all he’s done

https://twitter.com/theradrad/status/923215222793555968

Awhile back I noticed a lot of people were frustrated that Fred got the majority of the blame and most of the other sok members got away with doing a twitlonger or completely denying involvement. Personally, I went around and gave them shit for fun on all the people who did twitlongers but I didn’t go all that into it because I knew that the worst thing that was going to happen to them would happen regardless and they could only blame themselves for it.

They ended up becoming irrelevant.

Now I’m not talking about all of them, a minority’s has been able to keep an audience going and wouldn’t you know it that the ones that are still relevant were the ones who actually seemed sincere and were the ones who didn’t take things all to seriously in the first place or they are still just making fun of Phil.

However if you look at the majority of the members they have done absolutely nothing in terms of making content and are only doing twitter for the most part and even then they are either barely active or the posts they make are almost completely ignored.

This is hilarious to me because it really shows that most of the members were into the fame of it all (see radrads post) and not just doing it for fun like they claimed. It’s sad that despite having a podcast that had just as many viewers if not way more than Phil, they have not been able to keep that audience whatsoever and could care less about creating different content on their own. They were completely dependent on Phil and the sok name and I’m sure they’ve all realized how bad they are at being interesting when they don’t have Fred talking most of the time. I don’t think for a second that anyone involved with the sok was innocent and no one should worry about the exmembers getting away with shit that they did as the sok dying ended up ruining them in the end one way or another.

 

[Near]

So recently radrad decided to “retire” from dsp content and actually thanks Fred for all he’s done

https://twitter.com/theradrad/status/923215222793555968

Awhile back I noticed a lot of people were frustrated that Fred got the majority of the blame and most of the other sok members got away with doing a twitlonger or completely denying involvement. Personally, I went around and gave them shit for fun on all the people who did twitlongers but I didn’t go all that into it because I knew that the worst thing that was going to happen to them would happen regardless and they could only blame themselves for it.

They ended up becoming irrelevant.

Now I’m not talking about all of them, a minority’s has been able to keep an audience going and wouldn’t you know it that the ones that are still relevant were the ones who actually seemed sincere and were the ones who didn’t take things all to seriously in the first place or they are still just making fun of Phil.

However if you look at the majority of the members they have done absolutely nothing in terms of making content and are only doing twitter for the most part and even then they are either barely active or the posts they make are almost completely ignored.

This is hilarious to me because it really shows that most of the members were into the fame of it all (see radrads post) and not just doing it for fun like they claimed. It’s sad that despite having a podcast that had just as many viewers if not way more than Phil, they have not been able to keep that audience whatsoever and could care less about creating different content on their own. They were completely dependent on Phil and the sok name and I’m sure they’ve all realized how bad they are at being interesting when they don’t have Fred talking most of the time. I don’t think for a second that anyone involved with the sok was innocent and no one should worry about the exmembers getting away with shit that they did as the sok dying ended up ruining them in the end one way or another.

Is it really even surprising in the slightest? Watching just one episode of their podcast you quickly find out the show's actually called "Fred Fuchs speaks" because that's what it has been since he kicked out anyone remotely funny out of there like Che (who's running his own channel and seems to be doing well for himself with over 10k subs and admittedly well done videos)
The rest however was just there only making quick comments that were more often than not agreeing with whatever Fred had just said.

 

[PL 879]

So recently radrad decided to “retire” from dsp content and actually thanks Fred for all he’s done

https://twitter.com/theradrad/status/923215222793555968

Awhile back I noticed a lot of people were frustrated that Fred got the majority of the blame and most of the other sok members got away with doing a twitlonger or completely denying involvement. Personally, I went around and gave them shit for fun on all the people who did twitlongers but I didn’t go all that into it because I knew that the worst thing that was going to happen to them would happen regardless and they could only blame themselves for it.

They ended up becoming irrelevant.

Now I’m not talking about all of them, a minority’s has been able to keep an audience going and wouldn’t you know it that the ones that are still relevant were the ones who actually seemed sincere and were the ones who didn’t take things all to seriously in the first place or they are still just making fun of Phil.

However if you look at the majority of the members they have done absolutely nothing in terms of making content and are only doing twitter for the most part and even then they are either barely active or the posts they make are almost completely ignored.

This is hilarious to me because it really shows that most of the members were into the fame of it all (see radrads post) and not just doing it for fun like they claimed. It’s sad that despite having a podcast that had just as many viewers if not way more than Phil, they have not been able to keep that audience whatsoever and could care less about creating different content on their own. They were completely dependent on Phil and the sok name and I’m sure they’ve all realized how bad they are at being interesting when they don’t have Fred talking most of the time. I don’t think for a second that anyone involved with the sok was innocent and no one should worry about the exmembers getting away with shit that they did as the sok dying ended up ruining them in the end one way or another.

I've spoken about this on TXT's podcast. I was very disappointed and frankly disgusted by RadRad's recent twitlonger. The fucking guy is gushing over the "good times" they shared together and actually thanks Fred...while not offering a word of thanks or recognition to those who worked to bring the SoK down.
This strikes me as a starry-eyed fan who still is wholly devoted to his hero. He would undoubtedly still be standing arm in arm with Fred and the rest of the group had intervention not occurred.

 

[Near]

I've spoken about this on TXT's podcast. I was very disappointed and frankly disgusted by RadRad's recent twitlonger. The fucking guy is gushing over the "good times" they shared together and actually thanks Fred...while not offering a word of thanks or recognition to those who worked to bring the SoK down.
This strikes me as a starry-eyed fan who still is wholly devoted to his hero. He would undoubtedly still be standing arm in arm with Fred and the rest of the group had intervention not occurred.

Guess he really enjoyed getting patted on the head by Fred after each of his really a-loggy rants on the podcast.
There were a lot of people involved in the SoK, kinda convenient enough for most people to just leave unscathed and just blame Fred.
Like, in this very thread there's screenshots of BAO going after people for revealing the leaks, like some sort of Fred's personal enforcer, yet if i just look around elsewhere, i see him unscathed and hell even getting plugs from people like txt. And he was THE guy who did that false copyright shit Fred's been getting shit for now seemingly more than him

 

[PL 879]

Guess he really enjoyed getting patted on the head by Fred after each of his really a-loggy rants on the podcast.
There were a lot of people involved in the SoK, kinda convenient enough for most people to just leave unscathed and just blame Fred.
Like, in this very thread there's screenshots of BAO going after people for revealing the leaks, like some sort of Fred's personal enforcer, yet if i just look around elsewhere, i see him unscathed and hell even getting plugs from people like txt. And he was THE guy who did that false copyright shit Fred's been getting shit for now seemingly more than him

Not to sound like a braggart but just stating for the sake of empiricism, I've laid the cold hard facts out personally to BeAwesomeOne after he regretfully apologized to me for everything that was discovered about him that actions going forward is what counts. A person can say that they're sorry all they want to and sound repentant, but the real proof is going to be how someone carries themselves and their relations to others in the weeks and months ahead.
This same principle can be made applicable to RadRad, who hasn't even gotten to the apologetic or regretful stage and is sounding like he would reform the group today with Fred and Fizz if he could.

 

[Rare Drop]

I've spoken about this on TXT's podcast. I was very disappointed and frankly disgusted by RadRad's recent twitlonger. The fucking guy is gushing over the "good times" they shared together and actually thanks Fred...while not offering a word of thanks or recognition to those who worked to bring the SoK down.
This strikes me as a starry-eyed fan who still is wholly devoted to his hero. He would undoubtedly still be standing arm in arm with Fred and the rest of the group had intervention not occurred.

Might as well go the extra mile as say he's very vulnerable to another 'Fred' influencing his life. RadRad is way too merciful considering his own jabs at DSP, when everyone would have a field day with DSP if he even did 20% of what Fred did. Che is right -he needs to call a spade a spade, or he's going to be taken advantage of again.

 

[BIgBadWolf]

@SirJamesDTech While I don't think RADRAD is that bad or might not be as guilty as the others, the timing when he left does tell you a lot.
It didn't feel genuine like Loophole or Moogle (and maybe P4scal) who you could already see before the crash that they were pretty much done with the group. The SoK was already destroyed when he came on (out of necessity) Loophole's stream to annonce he wasn't in the SoK anymore. It's obvious he wanted it to continue and was still (and probably still is) friend with Fred. (He was still playing Destiny 2 with him when this all went down)

 

[Near]

@SirJamesDTech While I don't think RADRAD is that bad or might not be as guilty as the others, the timing when he left does tell you a lot.
It didn't feel genuine like Loophole or Moogle (and maybe P4scal) who you could already see before the crash that they were pretty much done with the group. The SoK was already destroyed when he came on (out of necessity) Loophole's stream to annonce he wasn't in the SoK anymore. It's obvious he wanted it to continue and was still (and probably still is) friend with Fred. (He was still playing Destiny 2 with him when this all went down)

Well he is in the Infinite Ammo Syndicate discord along with a few ex-SoK people, so if your speculations are anything to go by, he's the closest person to be giving Fred chatlogs and anything else he might want.

 

[Jmboote]

One line in particular really stood out to me, in RadRad's Twitlonger.

"I certainly don't condone your practices when you led the SoK, but I do thank you for looking out for those you truly cared about in the end, and bringing us together/keeping us together for as long as that was possible."

That's like patting a priest convicted of molesting children on the back, because he treated you right, personally. Just try and gloss over all the nefarious and frankly evil deeds against people that didn't deserve it, and sum it up by saying "Yeah, that was bad. But he was nice to me, so we cool.". Good God, RadRad.

 

[CausticMinory]

One line in particular really stood out to me, in RadRad's Twitlonger.

"I certainly don't condone your practices when you led the SoK, but I do thank you for looking out for those you truly cared about in the end, and bringing us together/keeping us together for as long as that was possible."

That's like patting a priest convicted of molesting children on the back, because he treated you right, personally. Just try and gloss over all the nefarious and frankly evil deeds against people that didn't deserve it, and sum it up by saying "Yeah, that was bad. But he was nice to me, so we cool.". Good God, RadRad.

It's obvious that Freddy boy is still in contact with him. He thinks if he gets RADRAD to sing his praises that his eventual comeback will be met with some dumbasses. "Hey Fred we missed you" cause RADRAD made some rants on their podcasts in his loud shouty voice.

 

[Xerxes IX]

If Fred was deleting that many tweets he has to be thinking of coming back. Since it happened right before the Twitchcon thing I thought he'd try and cover that, but obviously that didn't happen.

 

[Lurkette]

so was the dox on freddy boy semi-successful or led to an eventual dead end? that's all i care about tbh

 

[Near]

so was the dox on freddy boy semi-successful or led to an eventual dead end? that's all i care about tbh

Some a-logs tried too hard to dox Fred, only made fools out of themselves, so didn't go anywhere

 

[Cvitanich]

How many guests did they have on the podcast that weren't sok members? Cuz I can see a bunch of them joining Fred in a new group..

Let's be honest, there must be people that don't care about the leaks and the drama, and there has to be people that would buy Fred's side of the story.

 

[CausticMinory]

How many guests did they have on the podcast that weren't sok members? Cuz I can see a bunch of them joining Fred in a new group..

Let's be honest, there must be people that don't care about the leaks and the drama, and there has to be people that would buy Fred's side of the story.

RADRAD if anyone is going to fall for Fred Fuchs fakery it would be him and Fizz.

 

[Xerxes IX]

He has enough fans who won't fall for the leaks or think Phil is still worse so it doesn't matter. (dumb fans quite unlike Phil's surprise surprise.) If he really had to he could pick among his fans for new members for a group, especially since he valued loyalty to him.

 

[James Smith]

Has there been any new information on Fred in a month?

 

[Lurkette]

@Cvitanich

I know Almighty Tevin was one of the guests on SoK a couple times, and he's thoroughly done with Fred.

A quick look through the SoKast playlist (usually the names in the titles are guests but I'm not going to listen to them, so might be wrong on a few);

Spoiler

Jack Scalfani (from Cooking with Jack?? his name seems vaguely familiar)
The Lemon and Slyspy (former mods of phils)
Slowbeef and DasBoSchitt
MegamanNG and BiohazardAsian (iirc these are like, anti-dsp community members?)
SomeOrdinaryGamers (better known as Mutahar, he dives into the Deep Dank Web to look for weird shit and reads creepy pastas sometimes. He's a pretty chill dude, I didn't know he was on.)
"Engravings and Timboslice"? idk, it's #10, there's nothing explaining if these are people or references to something
TheAireaidlord
DasBo again
Jack Scalfani Jr and Gorthemoviegod
Kyoko Kirigiri (former mod)
MightyFurtado and MegamanNG again
#20 they did call ins and...a rap battle? ok
#21 they did call ins again i think? ThatOldShoggoth mentions being on in the comments
Kyoko again and God_Raven, another former mod
Onyx maybe? or maybe they just put his name in the title because they talk about him
#25 is the 1 year anniversary so they might have had some people on, nobody specific mentioned (shoggoth mentions being there in the comments tho)
Brian "13Strong1" Burke (literally who)
EvilTable
Jaha, Cerulean86, DasBo yet again
Tevano-san
#32 is viewer calls
Nina Nirema from Charity Water :/
Tevini again
#37 is viewer call ins
Lewdacris
Gorthemoviegod
Tevin, again
Brian "TigerPowered" Deneal
Lewdacris
DasBo...again
Not a guest, but two videos after Das was last on they accuse him of stealing charity money...huh
#48 has a "special surprise guest caller" but nothing states who they are and i don't want to unplug my headphones from my phone
#49 has call ins
Sammy Samosa (i still can't fucking believe we live in a universe where sammy was right), Aireaidlord, Pdawg and ChaffxGrenade
#51 is another 1 year anniversary...? more guest callers
Geoff the Hero/DarkSydeGeoff
Aireaidlord
Wyza
GamerNick
SchadenFrauleinn
Metokur
#76 is 2nd birthday, more call ins
Hazz3r, Beechey (former admins), and Aireaidlord
90/91/92 appear to be a 24 hour stream, they took calls
Metokur
@EddyB43
And it appears the last guests were the Laveria media people

EDIT:
@SoapQueen1 doesn't seem like it. If he's smart, he'll lay low for a long time, preferably never to pop back up in any major capacity.

 

[Kamatsubu]

So recently radrad decided to “retire” from dsp content and actually thanks Fred for all he’s done

https://twitter.com/theradrad/status/923215222793555968

Awhile back I noticed a lot of people were frustrated that Fred got the majority of the blame and most of the other sok members got away with doing a twitlonger or completely denying involvement. Personally, I went around and gave them shit for fun on all the people who did twitlongers but I didn’t go all that into it because I knew that the worst thing that was going to happen to them would happen regardless and they could only blame themselves for it.

They ended up becoming irrelevant.

Now I’m not talking about all of them, a minority’s has been able to keep an audience going and wouldn’t you know it that the ones that are still relevant were the ones who actually seemed sincere and were the ones who didn’t take things all to seriously in the first place or they are still just making fun of Phil.

However if you look at the majority of the members they have done absolutely nothing in terms of making content and are only doing twitter for the most part and even then they are either barely active or the posts they make are almost completely ignored.

This is hilarious to me because it really shows that most of the members were into the fame of it all (see radrads post) and not just doing it for fun like they claimed. It’s sad that despite having a podcast that had just as many viewers if not way more than Phil, they have not been able to keep that audience whatsoever and could care less about creating different content on their own. They were completely dependent on Phil and the sok name and I’m sure they’ve all realized how bad they are at being interesting when they don’t have Fred talking most of the time. I don’t think for a second that anyone involved with the sok was innocent and no one should worry about the exmembers getting away with shit that they did as the sok dying ended up ruining them in the end one way or another.

I'm personally fine with that. I've always seen myself as a Mister Metokur type who doesn't care for fame and just loves to shitpost. It's my idea of fun, and for a time shitting on Phil was fun. Especially when I did it with people I was willing to put my trust in and call friends, and I'm really not the kind of person who trusts people so easily so you can imagine how it felt for me to be part of that whole SoK thing. It was something special. Something I thought would last even after DSP was gone for good, and I just never expected the things that happened to others and myself would ever have occurred in the first place. I've said it before but before the SoK I never had much reason to question peoples motives. I like to take people at their word at face value because I want to believe in the things they say. Unfortunately that's changed, and I've learned that now I should question the mortality of people as well as their own personal motives more often. Otherwise I'll just end up in the same situation again.Even so you can see why I ended up staying in there way past when I stopped caring about DSP. I just felt like... I had found a place to belong, and I think the thing that hurt the worst was when I was proven wrong, and it seemed like I never really belonged there as well as feeling like no one ever wanted me there genuinely in he first place.It was the worst feeling in the world, feeling like everyone you thought was friends never saw you as a friend during the entire time you knew them. I just wish it hadn't taken those leaks to get people to finally come talk to me, and rebuild those bridges. After all I'm not stupid. If the leaks never happened I'd still be getting shit on without anything I could do about it, and people would be treating me like I'm some evil fucking mastermind that wanted to destroy the SoK under everyone's noses and shit. I guess in the end... I just want to give it another shot with everyone because I want to try to believe that the entire two years I was in that community wasn't a total pile of bullshit lies.

I know that DeadHorse Interchange or DHI isn't very popular around these parts, but for the most part while I was in the SoK I was there talking about lolcows. And well... They never liked the SoK to begin with so it's not like I ever had to say anything to make them, but a few times on there I defended the group just as hard as anyone would have back in the day when they were brought up. Eventually I outted myself as an SoK member, but they didn't laugh at me. Honestly to them I was kind of an autist and a sperg sometimes when it came to Phil, but not someone they considered a bad dude. And they helped me to calm the fuck down, not sperg so hard about things, and they also helped give me the confidence to stand up for myself when I was sitting alone in that empty skype chat for over 2 months hoping that things would eventually get better. I've been very thankful to them for that, since if I hadn't been there with those people I don't think I would have ever left the SoK. I would have been too afraid of losing my friends, and I probably would have let certain people continue to walk all over me just so I could keep my friends. Granted in the end what happened to me happened anyways, but I knew I was happier leaving than staying in a place I wasn't wanted. I just feel like, they were the ones that pushed me off the cliff when I was to afraid to jump. And that's something I can appreciate.

 

[Near]

I honestly still can't wrap my head around the idea of sitting in a group thats supposed to laugh at some fat fuck that's bad at video games, yet at the same time being bossed around by some other fag who says he's not a leader but he is and just can't make his mind up. I'd have left in a matter of hours from that shit.

I remember one instance when they were streaming something and had a video on watchtogether but the private link to it was showing so anyone could enter as anons. Now i kinda regret not going and really stirring shit up, the meltdown from Fred could have been amazing