Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

[Shark]

Hey what's going on everyone ..

You know Che, during these past few days. You had the ability to turn a somewhat normal average stream into an entertaining one. The stories you gave really knocked Fred down the pedestal about 50 feet.

 

[Unsungherobot]

Eh .. I disagree .. I wouldn't really call it dragging out .. This will be talked about whether we like it or not .. This thread was made without any of us saying anything .. You either own up to your mistakes and let the people that were targeted know ..or you bitch out .. I don't give a fuck if a mob accepts me I'm doing this for me ..you can't please everyone and I don't give a fuck about that .. Fred is actually making it worse by hiding lol .. If he was genuine and didn't hide we wouldn't have all these streams haha

Hm, the stream last night was nice but if we want to end Fred we do need Jim to get involved. Seeing how Fred is now the most talked about lolcow (second to Chris C) I think it would be easy to pick the SoK as his next talking piece for the show. alright hey guys. You all know I've always did my best to expose Fred and the shit thing the SoK did. Let's try and get Jim to talk about the SoK on the next stream/video. Let Jim know via twitter or whatever and I am sure after all this he will say ya.

 

[JustStopDude]

You either own up to your mistakes and let the people that were targeted know ..or you bitch out

I do not think it is "bitching out"...it is public relations. It is an important skill set to have for every public persona or company. It is a skill set that all people covered on this message board do not possess. It is the common theme among them all.

Let us be honest here, there is absolutely nothing that Fred could say that would placate the circus audience. He interacts at all is just adding fuel to fire.

The smartest thing for him to do is go away for a while. After this initial shit storm goes over, then is time to make contact with people individually to make amends.

Anything else is very counter productive.

Very entertaining of course, but very counter productive.

 

[Che]

Everything we did was a slow buildup to the end of SoK ... I want to make this clear we all did our dirt and were pretty scummy .. We should have ended it and called it out way earlier .. I should have let tevin and txt know earlier too.. If Fred does come back he probably will try to make a video saying " YOU GUYS DID BAD THINGS TOO .. YOU DID IT .. YOU TALKED SHIT ABOUT EACHOTHER" Fred is like that ..he loves deflecting and saying "NO BUT YOU" Difference is ..when the leaks came out most of us manned up and owned up to it ..either way this was going to get talked about.. either you own up and talk about it for however long its relevant to the parties involved or you bitch out.. The reason why Fred is a lulcow is because he cowers and hides when shit hits the fan

Che, what would you say is the biggest plan backfire out of all this? I guess trying to take down TXT? Always fun to see someone gloat then it just fires back in their face.

 

[Keystone]

Hey Che, nice to have you bro. Looking forward to your Fred stories, because that shit had me out of breath laughing last night

Any anecdotes about Fred we don't know about yet? Like you mentioned his parents were loaded, and I don't think we've heard about that one before.

 

[Rare Drop]

. After this initial shit storm goes over, then is time to make contact with people individually to make amends.

That Alice leak alone has fucked him over, and we still haven't seen the nuke. It's not like Fred is some Politician, now matter how much he waves his degree. He was a goofball that made fun of a shitty LPer with gout, who kept trying to have a moral highground which he broke several times.

 

[Che]

I understand your point but imo you're looking at it just like Fred would ..and thats what got us all here for your entertainment ... Thats fine I hope you mofos enjoy this shit storm.. here is the thing that people outside the group don't know .. Fred's internet reputation is the most important thing in the world to him .. He spend/spent his life trying to make the SoK popular on the Internet ..not only that he wanted to be looked at 100 percent in a positive light ..like a shining example for the Internet .. that is why he went out of his way to brag about everything and lie.. He lost that dude .. he is lulcow now and that really hurts him ..he lost old SoK members and if you think most of us are gonna be his friend again ..you don't know us at all lol .. Not many people are gonna be cool with a dude that watches everything you do .. Dude I know Fred .. there is no productive or counter productive in this situation ..its a shit show that everyone knows ..His flaws are out there online forever and that is what he was fighting to hide .. He lost SoK members, His "perfect" reputation and the channel .. No matter what happens he can't repair it

Lol "Public relations" My dude we are a bunch of irrelevant fucks that made a group dedicated to laughing at DSP and we took it too seriously .. If he seriously is looking at this shit like " IM RUNNING A COMPANY NO PUBLIC STATEMENTS EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY" He is the biggest retard out here. .. Fred does not care about becoming friends with anyone again ..he only cares about the Sons of Kojima becoming e famous and having a great reputation.. You can't compare running a company to uploading videos on a irrelevant youtube channel.. a company has the resources to rebuild and come back .. it can easily replace the bad apples and convince most people its going to be okay .. Fred can't do that .. SoK is not big enough to go back to the way it was..and that my friends is what really hurts Fred the most

I do not think it is "bitching out"...it is public relations. It is an important skill set to have for every public persona or company. It is a skill set that all people covered on this message board do not possess. It is the common theme among them all

Let us be honest here, there is absolutely nothing that Fred could say that would placate the circus audience. He interacts at all is just adding fuel to fire.

The smartest thing for him to do is go away for a while. After this initial shit storm goes over, then is time to make contact with people individually to make amends.

Anything else is very counter productive.

Very entertaining of course, but very counter productive.

 

[THEKINGOFDIVASVLOGS]

I would say the DIVAS situation was the final straw for Fred's insanity .. He really thought Divas was conspiring against him in the worst way... He would rant about our standing in the community and how he had to take it back .. He literally saw it as "Us vs Divas" ..he is the one that made the divas video because everyone else was busy and didnt want to waste all those hours doing heavy editing on a drama video.. I sided with the group I was in because I was cool with everyone in there .. I believe Fred was trying to use his grade school Pol Sci knowledge to try and become head honcho of this community but thats not it .. he is legit insane.. I think he really is schizophrenic.. He saw enemies where there was none .. he swore to people that Pasc4l was working for Divas ..even after the divas situation ended he thought Pasc4l was a mole.. why did I stay? ..well I liked most of the people in there and I thought I could make it normal ... I was exceptional

What is the point of this story? well pay attention .. me and that man that wanted to kill me made peace and we moved on .. Its easier to squash a grudge with a man that pulled a gun on me than Fred Fuchs..that should tell you something .. when I left the group and moved on Fred never did move on ...He thought I was working to get my channel to a good amount of subscribers to "take him over" he still hates divas, txt and Tevin ... THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING .. If its easier to make peace with a dude who wanted to shoot you than Fred Fuchs...you know Fred is legit insane and a pussy

Before you look at my screenshots with Fred back in the day i do want to apologize for what i said a few years back about you looking at some old screencaps i had of the drama before i went off, i completely forgot i said that you were bandwagoning and all of this stuff on Darksydephil. I kind of said things i shouldent have said back then i was young and immature as well even for someone that tries to get along with everyone.

if you look at the screencaps i had a few years back of Freds conversation with me and that drove me to the edge into making me dislike him even more, you can tell he devoloped conspiracy theories that i was spreading the sentiment around that he was not legit and he was the reason why the group was collapsing, and that the flood of new members, constant fighting and inside fighting, people hating each other, it was just uncomfortable which is why i called it internal drama. Plus the fact of adding Fred as president would doom the SOK, he already was beginning to have leadership positions in one of the chatrooms which i thought was the main, but he explained it was not the main one and that somehow they made another and invited me in and said this one was the main and Fred had the vetting room leadership. He kept being really passive agressive with me and usually i dont care but with him i disliked him from that point. But even i told him that i only said this to Burnout, i know we discussed this all internally before, but Fred made a huge deal out of something i said that should have never happened. I can tell at the time both of us agreed, but it was hard for you and other members to agree or suffer the wrath that is Fred.

I had no clue he thought Pasc4l was a mole i never even spoke to him i did see him around but i didint speak to him even when i had twitter and even when i had Skype i would have only spoken to Burnout, Crystal, Dude, Loophole and even Renegade. Honestly i didint really talk that much or hanged out everyday and even when i wasent i was at University doing homework, yet Fred probably thought i was out to get him. Go figure he would not understand how much time,work and money is put into colleges and how people have a life outside the internet or drama groups.

As for the drama video i heard from someone that Fred edited it, MilesSBG did all the investigations of the alts(supposodly now he says Fred manipulated him over their friendship and said it would be over if he did not help him) and those two were more involved on the video and editing it. Then again i understand if they left you in the dark like they did me, someone inside the SOK at the time admitted to me about this because they thought the whole thing was messed up when they witnessed it happening. If Fred believes i had any moles in the SOK it was absolutely false and i had enough respect for everyone even those i hardly knew to go after them i do not go after people i hardly know or care for. Besides why would i go against an entire group because i had problems with Fred and criticisms of the way things were changing? Fred really needs to take his medication or get some help.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

Funny story Che, we were watching phil play destiny 2 in Freedom chat and we switched to loopholes stream when phil decided to get his co-op guys...i was literally about to switch us back to phil seconds before you showed up and started laying into fred.

I have never heard such a roast before in my life, freds great great great great grandchildren will be reeling from this..

 

[JustStopDude]

Fred's internet reputation is the most important thing in the world to him .. He spend/spent his life trying to make the SoK popular on the Internet ..not only that he wanted to be looked at 100 percent in a positive light ..like a shining example for the Internet .. that is why he went out of his way to brag about everything and lie.. He lost that dude .. he is lulcow now and that really hurts him ..he lost old SoK members and if you think most of us are gonna be his friend again ..you don't know us at all lol .. Not many people are gonna be cool with a dude that watches everything you do .. Dude I know Fred .. there is no productive or counter productive in this situation ..its a shit show that everyone knows ..His flaws are out there online forever and that is what he was fighting to hide .. He lost SoK members, His "perfect" reputation and the channel .. No matter what happens he can't repair it

This reads like the ranting crap that Fred would say about DSP.

Che, step back from the abyss. Take a break from this stupid shit.

 

[Che]

I left it in 2016 my friend ..just because I'm around to explain what happened it does not mean I'm gonna go back to back 2015 .. I appreciate your concern .. Phil is worried about losing his Patreon income and Fred is worried about losing The Sons of Kojima and his "perfect reputation" now if I make 500 videos about it in 3 years .. then I didn't just go into the abyss .. I did a swan dive

This reads like the ranting crap that Fred would say about DSP.

Che, step back from the abyss. Take a break from this stupid shit.

 

[Schlomo Silverscreenblatt]

Guy watches scarface 1 million times
Guy takes control of group of friends playing video games and making fun of a person online
Chat logs get leaked and show how shitty he and his group is
Guy probably thinks the end of his group is like the end of scarface

 

[RIP_SANITY]

Guy watches scarface 1 million times
Guy takes control of group of friends playing video games and making fun of a person online
Chat logs get leaked and show how shitty he and his group is
Guy probably thinks the end of his group is like the end of scarface

In reality, it comes a lot closer to this:

And not just the death, but as I've stated before, Fred behaved more like an autistic Michael Corleone than Tony Montana.

 

[PL 879]

Before you look at my screenshots with Fred back in the day i do want to apologize for what i said a few years back about you looking at some old screencaps i had of the drama before i went off, i completely forgot i said that you were bandwagoning and all of this stuff on Darksydephil. I kind of said things i shouldent have said back then i was young and immature as well even for someone that tries to get along with everyone.

if you look at the screencaps i had a few years back of Freds conversation with me and that drove me to the edge into making me dislike him even more, you can tell he devoloped conspiracy theories that i was spreading the sentiment around that he was not legit and he was the reason why the group was collapsing, and that the flood of new members, constant fighting and inside fighting, people hating each other, it was just uncomfortable which is why i called it internal drama. Plus the fact of adding Fred as president would doom the SOK, he already was beginning to have leadership positions in one of the chatrooms which i thought was the main, but he explained it was not the main one and that somehow they made another and invited me in and said this one was the main and Fred had the vetting room leadership. He kept being really passive agressive with me and usually i dont care but with him i disliked him from that point. But even i told him that i only said this to Burnout, i know we discussed this all internally before, but Fred made a huge deal out of something i said that should have never happened. I can tell at the time both of us agreed, but it was hard for you and other members to agree or suffer the wrath that is Fred.

I had no clue he thought Pasc4l was a mole i never even spoke to him i did see him around but i didint speak to him even when i had twitter and even when i had Skype i would have only spoken to Burnout, Crystal, Dude, Loophole and even Renegade. Honestly i didint really talk that much or hanged out everyday and even when i wasent i was at University doing homework, yet Fred probably thought i was out to get him. Go figure he would not understand how much time,work and money is put into colleges and how people have a life outside the internet or drama groups.

As for the drama video i heard from someone that Fred edited it, MilesSBG did all the investigations of the alts(supposodly now he says Fred manipulated him over their friendship and said it would be over if he did not help him) and those two were more involved on the video and editing it. Then again i understand if they left you in the dark like they did me, someone inside the SOK at the time admitted to me about this because they thought the whole thing was messed up when they witnessed it happening. If Fred believes i had any moles in the SOK it was absolutely false and i had enough respect for everyone even those i hardly knew to go after them i do not go after people i hardly know or care for. Besides why would i go against an entire group because i had problems with Fred and criticisms of the way things were changing? Fred really needs to take his medication or get some help.

Those screenshots. You can see the paranoid dictator in the making by the things Fred as a new member says to a longer-standing member in Divas.

"You are trying to cut me down and minimize my contribution to the group."
"We have a podcast. This podcast is taking our group to a new audience."
"Well Divas, maybe if you were around you would know, instead of jumping to conclusions from your high horse."
"The point of the small group is to vet out members to make sure they aren't spies or two-faced."

 

[El Porko Fako]

It's amazing how bad shit has gotten for Fred in the past several days. When this thread began several days, truth be told, I thought this thread was going to crash and burn because their wasn't any really juicy info about Fred like he's a furry or jacks off to David the Gnome or some other ridiculous cow behavior that typically draws in tons of traffic. Boy, do threads on this site have a way of surprising me.

This thread has become far more interesting than anything Phil has done in awhile. These leaks and videos keep getting more interesting by the day, and really paint a picture of how fucking delusional Fred is. All the spying and backstabbing makes this thread read like an autistic Tom Clancy Spy novel. Phil's a moron and really insecure, but Fred really is on the same level, if not worse than Phil himself. If any of you new users are unfamiliar with the concept of troll shielding, this is a textbook definition of the behavior. Fred rode Phil hard after the whole Rambo/Howard fiasco, but look what he's been doing for years now.

I really am wondering if Fred will ever reemerge after this, and how long it will take. I just don't see him coming back from this in any form, DSP-related or not, without a tsunami of people riding his ass for being a dipshit.

The most poetic, yet scary thing about this whole debacle is that Sammy fucking Samosa of all people was actually right in severl ways about Fred's running of the SOK. Fred really did "do Che dirty" and "Fred lives in his own fantasy empire." Truly, an idiot savant that Sammy Samosa.

 

[THEKINGOFDIVASVLOGS]

Those screenshots. You can see the paranoid dictator in the making by the things Fred as a new member says to a longer-standing member in Divas.

"You are trying to cut me down and minimize my contribution to the group."
"We have a podcast. This podcast is taking our group to a new audience."
"Well Divas, maybe if you were around you would know, instead of jumping to conclusions from your high horse."
"The point of the small group is to vet out members to make sure they aren't spies or two-faced."

Absolutely you can tell from that point on Fred was going to conspire against me and tell everyone and build himself to the top he had it out for me and was doing the same exact thing he was accusing me of. I laughed so much at the time reading this i really had hoped the others would have realized how silly this was. Besides all of Freds arguments are weak and he is untalented as well. Let me ask everyone in the SOK and outside of it what has he actually done without the group he leeches off of so much? What has he actually done that earns him any credibility? Why does anyone follow this guy or even have any respect still? Think about it, Che, Evilaj2010, Moogle, Renegade, they have built their channels and actually know how to video edit and put things together they deserve far more recognition as a whole especially those that have built it themselves, Fred was someone that would be an opportunistic person and recruit those he knew could do things for him and make everyone else do his dirty work and edit his videos,make animations, read tweets, do streams,have some people try to organize the event, while Fred just tries to put himself front and center of it all acting like its a "group" effort, and Fred said the Podcast was so hard when all he did was put it in a video editor, convert it to MP4, upload it to youtube and that was it. Its literally the easiest thing to do that even anyone of us here could do it. I think he is just someone that seeks opportunity on what someone else did and tries to gain popularity off of it, and wants to keep distractions from anyone noticing his ways.

 

[Rare Drop]

I heard Loophole owns the channel technically, and the vids are still there, but now the 'home' and 'about' tabs are blank. Better get those mirrors ready.

 

[FrankPentangeli]

This would be great stuff for the guy who made el DeeEsRee: "emergency"

 

[OneDaySon]

This would be great stuff for the guy who made el DeeEsRee: "emergency"

That lets enjoy video was weird to be, same with all the lets enjoy videos. They really dripped of insincerity. They were all fake laughing and just being patronising in general over it.

Stuff like this.

Also in hindsight a lot of their shit is weird looking back at it -

The first few seconds of the video where they find out he's leaving Machinima, just Fred and the other's reactions. Yeah it was a big deal in Phil land and pretty crazy but it is almost like they're flipping the fuck out over a Youtuber leaving a partnered network. They're acting like he just died or some shit. Fred really was obsessed.

 

[Fritzocrat]

That slowbeef endure was what really put me off of the SoK, Fred seemed to be hamming it up pretty hardcore. Does he have a hardon for Beef or something ?

I haven't heard that much fake laughing since the final years of the Opie & Anthony show.