Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

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I just realised, with how much of a paranoid control freak he is, Fred is probably furious right now.
 
NotreallyPutin said:
Oh well, Fred got what was coming to him and I really think this thread should be archived. In case Fred pops up again, like some sort of even fatter version of Gannon, people should be aware to just how crazy he is.
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All the SOK videos should be archived as well. I can see them being ripped down.
 
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As well as Fred changing the Sok YT bio to 'we were the Sok', he also removed everyone except himself from the featured section

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If this was Fred what a passive aggressive bitch move. It comes off like he is going down with the ship, the last person still waiving the Sok flag while trying to make the others feel guilty. "We were the Sok" boo-fucking-hoo Fred. Your group was destroyed from the inside out and you were the source. All the others share just as much of the blame for going along with this for years and never saying a word. If this is the result of a group under your leadership throw that degree in the garbage.

If it comes out this was anyone else you can ignore or delete this post this is all based on speculation and assumptions.
 
It's sad really to see someone that you would call as your friend for a long time doing this bullshit; doxxing, shit talking other members, and the whole nine yards. Him and I would talk sometimes about personal shit and it was great to hear someone that I thought actually cared. But after seeing him doxxing a few of my friends, I decided to leave the group and started to really watch out who I become friends with.
 
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Sasquatch82 said:
All the SOK videos should be archived as well. I can see them being ripped down.
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Speaking of archiving SoK videos reminds me of this deleted video from the SoKast #99.
I remember posting a comment about how I thought it made them look bad by attacking someone on twitter, as did a few others. Fred must have known that this video may not be received very well because he didn't include it in the main SoKast #99, and made it a separate video. Fred deleted this portion of the podcast shortly after.
 
I still can't wrap my mind around how a guy with a weak spot for gangster movies attempted to run a group of nobodies on the internet like a mob boss. That's easily the most autistic thing I've ever heard of someone doing.
 
OneDaySon said:
They do sperg out way too hard over Phil. There's pointing and laughing at the train wreck and then there's making 5 - 6 hour videos over a 10 minute DSP video and "researching" people vaguely associated with Phil and trying to find out his tax guy and phoning his realtor. It got fucking weirdly obsessive. I dont think some of the SoK members or even viewers realised how weird it actually is. Like if RADRAD is still here, think about it because you were on this stream at the time. The Laveria thing. It starts off with "researching" about Laveria. Starting on Social Blade, seems okay, looking up their website, seems okay. Looking up the CEO, seems okay. But then going on their Linkedin pages, uh? Then checking out their social media, then looking up pictures? Then looking at the CEOs blog? Looking up his full name? What the fuck does that have to do with Phil partnering with a company? Like there must have been a point where you were like "Wait a second? Why are we obsessively looking up people who have the tiniest association with Phil? What does this have to do with Phil again?" I don't think you realise how fucking weird those SoKasts were until you think about it.
There's watching the trainwreck, maybe even prodding the trainwreck to produce content, heck, then there's obsession. Guess where SoK (Not just Fred, SoK) lies?
I mean their lets endures are fine, makes sense, lets laugh at Phil's shittiness. But then the SoK shows could be 6 -7 hours long where they're looking up random people who bumped into DSP once.
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I agree, that is what makes it really over the top for me. Granted i do my research but i never try to delve into someones personal info, it really has never mattered in the grand scheme of things where exactly Darksydephil is located, what he had for breakfast, where does he shop for pizza's, that is some scary level NSA stuff . I know it happened to Chris Chan for awhile and i get the whole lolcow celebrity thing of wanting to know a persons life but after awhile it just looks cringy and just really weird especially when you find out Chris chan just plays the same game every few days, eats some food and is almost normal except he never gets a job and panhandles what he can for his home.

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I just realised, with how much of a paranoid control freak he is, Fred is probably furious right now.
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This is true and why sometimes you need to be wary of those who claim they have "changed their ways" and want to "know why you no longer like the SOK anymore" as some of the posters have been saying, even what is more telling is when Che talked about how Fred has come up with 30 hour battle plans and tactics and is not beyond doing anything suspicious. Not saying we need to distrust and suspect each other, but have a healthy amount of skepticism when you see the signs. Because I had this happen to me before and it was really strange how people i never knew, never talked to or even cared about suddenly came out to me over saying that i am done with SOK and i left the group. Its not surprising or unique for Fred to manipulate people and to try to play Trojan horse and tell them to give the most generic responses ever like "oh man i hate SOK to Fred is such a meanie d00d" so suddenly they say "oh man come on in" and then they try to record calls they ask really suspiciously specific questions "oh why do you hate Fred, why do you hate SOK? Is there something like such and such?" and do some dirty work. That was how the video on me was made, i never expected to be recorded during conversations, my private discussions screencapped and have a 1 hour video made that was beyond my wildest thing ever, to me it was more sad on SOK themselves than anything really hurtful on me especially when it was over something as silly as "Divas started it" when the community didint want to hear about it and wanted those to work together, it also was funny because what i pointed out was not mean spirited and actually i didint even swear or say mean things in the video they made on me. It showed more about their character than mine.

Besides all i wanted to do was get out of the group and its tough when you tell Fred himself and you even tell him before hand "hey dude nothing against you but i am leaving in a few weeks just to let you know, and i will be saying this on twitter just for a heads up" and suddenly when i go through with it, i get trashed by Fred who seemed to not mind it before, but you can tell he did not like it when i left he just wanted to find a petty reason to go after me even if we all know it was dumb in the first place. He made drama when there was none, and honestly even when i disagreed with him, even when i knew he was pulling some crazy stuff i tried to do it in a way that made SOK look good and myself as well just to not rock the boat i even told a user about my relationship with the SOK and i said "i had no hard feelings towards them just doing my own thing". No matter what or who Fred will always gain these loyal followers and those who will record calls, try to pit you against them and those who will try to infiltrate groups i knew of a few that did when a few anti SOK members recruited me and it was kind of ironic in itself, and Fred has this luxury of saying "well dont blame me its the persons fault i dindu nuffin" but the thing is we all know that no one thinks for themselves underneath Fred and that he is the leader of the entire group like usual the leaks prove this. Doesent matter how long ago something was, its consistent history and its been confirmed countless times. Even if SOK is dead or its dying he will not give up and he will be back again within time because he thinks he can outwait us and we are dumber than he is.
 
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So to clear things up, yes, I am male. The androgyny was a running gag due to having these devilish vocal cords.

Also, to Cerulean86, I wanna take this time to apologize. I did not necessarily involve myself in your departure from the GSoK. If anything, I was neutral as hell, and allowed it to occur. You are still a cool guy to me who redefined the art of skeletons.
 
Hey what's going on everyone ..yes this is the real Che and I'm not saying that cause I'm some e celeb (I'm an irrelevant fuck who talks about 20 year old computer RPGs) get ready for a too long to read ..I'm posting here to give some thoughts and add my perspective perspective .. and I do type like a caveman cause I'm lazy Ill do my best to not type like Fred Flinstone.. First off I just want to say something that I will repeat 200 times .. every active member that was/is in the Sons of Kojima deserve criticism and ridicule ..that includes me too! It is true some members did more than other (Fred being the craziest bitch out there) but still we all did some shady shit and contributed that toxic group ..we helped built a monster that should have never existed in the first place ..the concept of Sons of Kojima is retarded and ex members were fucking retarded for building it up... I see members on here trying to act innocent (Rad Rad) and its no offensive but you were an active member.... does not matter if you are new .. you contributed to the Autistic Illuminati! The only member I will give a pass here is Caesar cause he was never involved he was barely around .. what we did was stupid ,autistic, retarded, dumb, idiotic and every other bad name in the book and I take full responsibility for my part in that .. I left in early 2016 but still I was a fucking moron... Its only fair that a group that analyzed every aspect of someone's life get analyzed themselves when their skeletons come out the closet. We have to prove to everyone that we aren't fucking morons ..that will take some time

Let's get one thing straight .. Yes Fred is insecure and an egomaniac an he wanted control of the anti dsp "community" I don't care if you believe it or not its true .. He does act like some power hungry moron on the Internet because its the only place where he can "flex" his imaginary power.. he is a coward plain and simple ..he was so quick to strawman people in arguments and encourage the "community" go after anyone he didn't like but he runs like the insecure wannabe 3 day training under his belt fake MMA fighter he is ..but it is true you can't force anyone to do anything and ex member did retarded things but the fact is the main reason why Fred is getting so much shit is because what he did .. He did some fucked up shit and I'm not playing the "I'm moral i'm better than you card" Its the truth .. he doxed people he didn't like .. he encouraged people to spy on motherfuckers and trace their online presence for years .. he came with bizarre conspiratorial about other people in the anti DSP "community" (For example: He thought Tevin was a proxy for TXT to take him out) .. He lied about where he got information from ( He claimed DSP fans did it ..it was him) and he took that information and spread it on websites so he could hope some anon fucker tries to fuck up Tevin or TXT or Ren's ex ..these people did nothing to him and they didn't hurt anyone else and while he was doing this he was playing the good guy pretending he was an example for everyone else Fred convinced a naive member to give him his skype info and the used that account when this member was sleeping to spy on the TCP chat for six months ..fact is .. Fred is the worst one of us all ... I want to mention something I haven't seen anyone else talk about .. its not surprising that Fred is getting most of the heat for 2 reasons 1. He did he worst stuff and 2. He proclaimed himself as the almighty leader of the SoK ..he takes the "presidency" bullshit seriously ... think of any team sport for example American Football.. the Quarterback is the leader of the team.. when the team wins he gets the most praise but when they lose he gets the most blame ..its only logical the "leader" of the SoK is getting the most heat for all the shit he did .. Fred had no problems with people kissing his ass and all the praise he got as president so he has to man up and take this heat... He wanted the "leadership" role so bad and now he is getting the bad side of it .. and the facts are he is the biggest piece of shit in the anti dsp "community" .. People like Fizz ,leoking and Nomad are the biggest fucking ass kissers and they aren't even genuine at all but Ex SoK members deserve to be caught in the internet crossfire because what we helped build was fucked up


After I left the group .. I never said anything about this crazy bs because I was embarrassed about what I did and what I helped build .. I didn't want anyone to know but you can't always get what you want .. when the leaks came out on Kiwifarms and everyone started to know the SoK is a fucking joke .. I was faced with 2 options 1. Pretend it never happened and hide or 2. Man the fuck up, own up to my mistakes and say something against this retarded shit... You kiwi farm motherfuckers gave us the platform to actually have an impact with what we said .. we could not have done it on our own I was embarrassed and hiding from the stupid shit I did and other members didn't want to be a target in the "community" for 1 year some of these bitches followed everything I did online .. I never really posted that much on my own channel (1 review a month and maybe 2 other videos) and every time I uploaded I would have some sock account bugging me .. I also had people in private annoying the fuck out of me and calling me a traitor cause I left that retarded bullshit... I know its not important at all in the grand scheme of things but you Kiwifarm mofos are the reason why the SoK is dead .. and I thank you for it

The SoK is dead ..there is no coming back from this but I know Fred ..he is hiding for 2 reasons 1. he is insecure coward and 2. he wants to wait and hope the heat goes away ..SoK is his life and he will not give it up without a fight .. He will be back at some point and try to resurrect the SoK with new members and try to pretend none of this never happened ..he did with doper and ardnas .. he is locked up in his room and really pissed off he is a lulcow now and he is furious ,angry, upset and sad about it .. He hates this with ever fiber of his being and no doubt he is watching all the threads and any streams so my message to you Fred is this .. If you try to bring the SoK back or try to do stuff on your own accounts we will be here to call you out .. I already talked to Tevin , Txt and plenty of former SoK members ..Fred Fuchs, if you come back and try to repair your damaged "reputation" we will be here to call you out ... you ain't living this down .. I will never forgive you and I'm sure other won't either but from a "Political" perspective you botched the only chance you had to save face with the "community" .. You wrote a weak ass twitlonger and are now in hiding like Saddam.. SoK is dead ..your reputation is dead .. you almost become the Internet celeb you so desperately wanted to be but you didn't realize that you would get the same treatment you gave others ..You wanted people to troll shield you and you thought you were above criticism ..I know it hurts you so much and deep down inside you hate me for doing what I did .. I'm glad I did it Fred ..you sacrificed so much for you precious "Internet" reputation .. Was it worth it? I just want to apologize again for my fuck ups and me trying to sweep everything under the rug .. I wasn't raised to run from my issues but I did for awhile

I know this is long as fuck and I hope you read ..Hey Fred, I got plenty of 4am conspiracy stories and more .. the fast food fake girlfriend stories, the weird plans you hatched, the calls where you bugged me 1 hour before I went to work and you sat there and thought everyone was conspiring against you .. you shouted words like "CONSPIRACY" and "PROXY... You're fuched Fred ..give it up .. Once again thank you to all you kiwifarms motherfuckers ... I know some of you think I'm autistic and retarded and that's okay .. I can't blame you haha ..if any of you have any questions you can ask me here or in private somewhere whether its here or Twitter ..have a great day

Fred is locked up in his room playing Destiny 2 like a scared bitch and I know he watches all of this and is trying to dox ex members to get "revenge" btw Fred's parents are loaded and he gets everything handed to him ..he sits online 24/7 hoping people kiss his ass ..
 
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Um Oh Ah Yeah said:
I just realised, with how much of a paranoid control freak he is, Fred is probably furious right now.
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His worst nightmare of his paranoia happened when you think about it. People siding with TXT and Tevin and ex members coming to bite back and SoK dying. It's ironic that his psycho tactics to preserve all of that were the very thing that ended up firing this all back at him. They were his undoing.

I wouldn't be surprised if he'll lurk around forever still. It's pretty creepy knowing he'll always be watching.
 
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OneDaySon said:
His worst nightmare of his paranoia happened when you think about it. People siding with TXT and Tevin and ex members coming to bite back and SoK dying. It's ironic that his psycho tactics to preserve all of that were the very thing that ended up firing this all back at him.

I wouldn't be surprised if he'll lurk around forever still. It's pretty creepy knowing he'll always be watching.
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What if he tries taking HRT to try come back under a new identity? With all the evidence he proved Phil right about him being a sociopathic manchild, might as well go full CWC and try a MtF stunt.
 
Che said:
btw Fred's parents are loaded and he gets everything handed to him ..he sits online 24/7 hoping people kiss his ass
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Well yeah, he's a poli-sci major, so that makes sense.
 
It's at least nice to speak to you, Che, and I wish it was under better circumstances. The label of the SoK I pushed was the analytical side of Phil, not necessarily the lolcow side. That's why I was pulled in to the group. I, in no way, endorse or condone the general concepts now associated with Fred's SoK, especially against our own members. I personally like to think I am better than that, but if people still believe that I'm not, I'd like to atone in any way possible.
 
Che said:
He proclaimed himself as the almighty leader of the SoK ..he takes the "presidency" bullshit seriously ... think of any team sport for example American Football.. the Quarterback is the leader of the team.. when the team wins he gets the most praise but when they lose he gets the most blame ..its only logical the "leader" of the SoK is getting the most heat for all the shit he did .. Fred had no problems with people kissing his ass and all the praise he got as president so he has to man up and take this heat... He wanted the "leadership" role so bad and now he is getting the bad side of it .. and the facts are he is the biggest piece of shit in the anti dsp "community" ..
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Did things change as soon as he became the "leader"? Thinking back about it, the SOK went from a bunch of friends/people laughing at someone who can't take responsibility for his fuck ups while playing video games to analysing every words and things he did even outside of his gameplay. It's like the obsession kicked in and the SOK now wanted to see him ruined both financially and socially. When you think about it this way you have to ask yourself "If they're acting this way towards Phil, wishing him bad things, obsessing over him, etc. What kind of people are they really?"
 
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