Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

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Che, what would you say is the biggest plan backfire out of all this? I guess trying to take down TXT? Always fun to see someone gloat then it just fires back in their face.
 
Che said:
Hey what's going on everyone ..yes this is the real Che and I'm not saying that cause I'm some e celeb (I'm an irrelevant fuck who talks about 20 year old computer RPGs) get ready for a too long to read ..I'm posting here to give some thoughts and add my perspective perspective .. and I do type like a caveman cause I'm lazy Ill do my best to not type like Fred Flinstone.. First off I just want to say something that I will repeat 200 times .. every active member that was/is in the Sons of Kojima deserve criticism and ridicule ..that includes me too! It is true some members did more than other (Fred being the craziest bitch out there) but still we all did some shady shit and contributed that toxic group ..we helped built a monster that should have never existed in the first place ..the concept of Sons of Kojima is exceptional and ex members were fucking exceptional for building it up... I see members on here trying to act innocent (Rad Rad) and its no offensive but you were an active member.... does not matter if you are new .. you contributed to the Autistic Illuminati! The only member I will give a pass here is Caesar cause he was never involved he was barely around .. what we did was stupid ,autistic, exceptional, dumb, idiotic and every other bad name in the book and I take full responsibility for my part in that .. I left in early 2016 but still I was a fucking moron... Its only fair that a group that analyzed every aspect of someone's life get analyzed themselves when their skeletons come out the closet. We have to prove to everyone that we aren't fucking morons ..that will take some time

Let's get one thing straight .. Yes Fred is insecure and an egomaniac an he wanted control of the anti dsp "community" I don't care if you believe it or not its true .. He does act like some power hungry moron on the Internet because its the only place where he can "flex" his imaginary power.. he is a coward plain and simple ..he was so quick to strawman people in arguments and encourage the "community" go after anyone he didn't like but he runs like the insecure wannabe 3 day training under his belt fake MMA fighter he is ..but it is true you can't force anyone to do anything and ex member did exceptional things but the fact is the main reason why Fred is getting so much shit is because what he did .. He did some fucked up shit and I'm not playing the "I'm moral i'm better than you card" Its the truth .. he doxed people he didn't like .. he encouraged people to spy on motherfuckers and trace their online presence for years .. he came with bizarre conspiratorial about other people in the anti DSP "community" (For example: He thought Tevin was a proxy for TXT to take him out) .. He lied about where he got information from ( He claimed DSP fans did it ..it was him) and he took that information and spread it on websites so he could hope some anon fucker tries to fuck up Tevin or TXT or Ren's ex ..these people did nothing to him and they didn't hurt anyone else and while he was doing this he was playing the good guy pretending he was an example for everyone else Fred convinced a naive member to give him his skype info and the used that account when this member was sleeping to spy on the TCP chat for six months ..fact is .. Fred is the worst one of us all ... I want to mention something I haven't seen anyone else talk about .. its not surprising that Fred is getting most of the heat for 2 reasons 1. He did he worst stuff and 2. He proclaimed himself as the almighty leader of the SoK ..he takes the "presidency" bullshit seriously ... think of any team sport for example American Football.. the Quarterback is the leader of the team.. when the team wins he gets the most praise but when they lose he gets the most blame ..its only logical the "leader" of the SoK is getting the most heat for all the shit he did .. Fred had no problems with people kissing his ass and all the praise he got as president so he has to man up and take this heat... He wanted the "leadership" role so bad and now he is getting the bad side of it .. and the facts are he is the biggest piece of shit in the anti dsp "community" .. People like Fizz and Nomad are the biggest fucking ass kissers and they aren't even genuine at all but Ex SoK members deserve to be caught in the internet crossfire because what we helped build was fucked up


After I left the group .. I never said anything about this crazy bs because I was embarrassed about what I did and what I helped build .. I didn't want anyone to know but you can't always get what you want .. when the leaks came out on Kiwifarms and everyone started to know the SoK is a fucking joke .. I was faced with 2 options 1. Pretend it never happened and hide or 2. Man the fuck up, own up to my mistakes and say something against this exceptional shit... You kiwi farm motherfuckers gave us the platform to actually have an impact with what we said .. we could not have done it on our own I was embarrassed and hiding from the stupid shit I did and other members didn't want to be a target in the "community" for 1 year some of these bitches followed everything I did online .. I never really posted that much on my own channel (1 review a month and maybe 2 other videos) and every time I uploaded I would have some sock account bugging me .. I also had people in private annoying the fuck out of me and calling me a traitor cause I left that exceptional bullshit... I know its not important at all in the grand scheme of things but you Kiwifarm mofos are the reason why the SoK is dead .. and I thank you for it

The SoK is dead ..there is no coming back from this but I know Fred ..he is hiding for 2 reasons 1. he is insecure coward and 2. he wants to wait and hope the heat goes away ..SoK is his life and he will not give it up without a fight .. He will be back at some point and try to resurrect the SoK with new members and try to pretend none of this never happened ..he did with doper and ardnas .. he is locked up in his room and really pissed off he is a lulcow now and he is furious ,angry, upset and sad about it .. He hates this with ever fiber of his being and no doubt he is watching all the threads and any streams so my message to you Fred is this .. If you try to bring the SoK back or try to do stuff on your own accounts we will be here to call you out .. I already talked to Tevin , Txt and plenty of former SoK members ..Fred Fuchs, if you come back and try to repair your damaged "reputation" we will be here to call you out ... you ain't living this down .. I will never forgive you and I'm sure other won't either but from a "Political" perspective you botched the only chance you had to save face with the "community" .. You wrote a weak ass twitlonger and are now in hiding like Saddam.. SoK is dead ..your reputation is dead .. you almost become the Internet celeb you so desperately wanted to be but you didn't realize that you would get the same treatment you gave others ..You wanted people to troll shield you and you thought you were above criticism ..I know it hurts you so much and deep down inside you hate me for doing what I did .. I'm glad I did it Fred ..you sacrificed so much for you precious "Internet" reputation .. Was it worth it? I just want to apologize again for my fuck ups and me trying to sweep everything under the rug .. I wasn't raised to run from my issues but I did for awhile

I know this is long as fuck and I hope you read ..Hey Fred, I got plenty of 4am conspiracy stories and more .. the fast food fake girlfriend stories, the weird plans you hatched, the calls where you bugged me 1 hour before I went to work and you sat there and thought everyone was conspiring against you .. you shouted words like "CONSPIRACY" and "PROXY... You're fuched Fred ..give it up .. Once again thank you to all you kiwifarms motherfuckers ... I know some of you think I'm autistic and exceptional and that's okay .. I can't blame you haha ..if any of you have any questions you can ask me here or in private somewhere whether its here or Twitter ..have a great day

P.S Loop has control of the channel too and he changed it .. Fred is locked up in his room playing Destiny 2 like a scared bitch and I know he watches all of this and is trying to dox ex members to get "revenge" btw Fred's parents are loaded and he gets everything handed to him ..he sits online 24/7 hoping people kiss his ass ..
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Absolutely spot on we made almost the same exact thoughts in almost 3 minutes of each other. Those that have been through this when going against him know exactly how it feels to be on the receiving end, even when you think you are on good terms he will find a way to sneak attack you indirectly on twitter and then troll shield when it collapses on him and blame everyone else. Also i had my suspicion he was trying to get rid everything that wasent SOK in the Anti-DSP community and trying to wipe everyone else out who decided to do their own thing and not join him even with groups like TCP, and others that were not SOK at all did their own thing, to him they are "competition" and "those that conspire against us" the whole US Vs them narrative. This might explain why he attacked me and countless others for quitting only to try and shame others to get back in line and join SOK itself or to be killed off and never to be talked to again. I never had much proof but i had my suspicions about that being the case. Thanks to you i can confirm this was indeed true especially how he will never give up no matter what and he will come up with battle plans against us and all of this crazy stuff.

Also Che welcome to the Kiwifarms! Do not be afraid to post and say what you feel because i know i felt a bit awkward about responding or trying to clarify things and it feels difficult that he might do something bad. But one thing you need to remember is to not be afraid to speak out and say what you feel. The community here is really welcoming as long as you dont go full DSP or Freddy boy you will be alright.
 
JoRo said:
Here's the story from @SirJamesDTech over the leaks and how it all happened as there is a lot of misinformation over what started everything, this is all going to be on the op as well so if anyone asks tell them look at the op.

So enjoy the evolution of the leaks by @SirJamesDTech

The Evolution of the Leaks:

The Fred Fuchs/Sons of Kojima leaks phenomenon began innocuously in late July 2017. TXT was now a Twitch streaming affiliate and so he was deciding on which emotes to use. A few were tossed back and forth until he decided on the infamous Phil face emote which would ultimately lead to what is happening today. TXT knew it would rock the boat a little bit since he still was an associate of the SoK and several members had a big problem with any sort of monetization, but it was never imagined what eventually occurred.
King of Pol (FedoraManManMan on Kiwi Farms, also referred to as Bryan) tweeted out the suggestion that TXT was a hypocrite. Doctor of Fizz also predictably made a very similar sentiment. TXT was livid at this, and knew Fred was behind it as that group has a hive mind lead by essentially a cult leader. Keep in mind that TXT does not stream DSP-related content, and this emote was only contemplated. It never went live. This all happened on Friday July 28, 2017. TXT contacted SirJamesDTech, and thus he made the recommendation that he not respond rashly or immediately. Gather as much relevant ammunition against Pol as possible and nuke him. Fizz was never seen as anything other than a mush-brained little peon for Fred, so a simple tweet here and there in response from TXT and James was all that was required to shut him up.
Bryan attempted to assemble a sort of conference discord with him and TXT and Fred moderating. This “impartial”moderation was not something he was interested in. Pol was not happy, thinking he was being spurned and said several more things which added to our motivation.
TXT and SirJamesDTech made use of each day of that weekend. He had taken some screenshots of Bryan, while streaming Phil content, earning paid subscribers and paid cheerswhile also collecting free games from others. So Jamesformulated the strategy immediately on Friday of a simultaneous attack on Pol coming that Monday at around noon for maximum exposure, with TXT taking the Twitter angle and Jamessmashing Pol’s Kiwi Farms flank, where he was a regular member. All weekend James softened the ground on Kiwi with hits on Bryan, calling him a backstabber and proclaiming that he says shit then runs and cries to daddy Fred and other assaults while TXT remained silent. Actually, he was out of town that weekend so completely unable to adequately respond even if he wanted to. But TXT is a friend of James, and taking friendship to heart, he couldn’t just let him dangle without aid.
Monday they were set and it was giddy anticipation all morning knowing Bryan was absolutely fucked come mid-day. When noon hit, TXT let loose with his mic drop Tweet while James buried Pol on Kiwi Farms. TXT then made his “I love you. Go fuck yourselves. Good night.” tweet where he left the community which he pinned on his profile for over a week.
Immediately after this, while TXT laid low and Jamescontinually hammering Bryan and Fred on Kiwi Farms, TXT had been DM’d by a Twitter user named JoRo. He said that Fred had contacted him through DM at random and had this extended conversation about how TXT was a crybaby, e-begger, hypocrite and trying to frame the argument that each member of the SoK are free to think for themselves because Pascal and Fizz had attacked TXT. Page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
TXT and JoRo were pondering one big info dump, but James had in mind a different approach. A slow drip, released over a prolonged time period. This would allow Fred’s words to remain fresh in people’s minds and would make it appear as though he kept talking shit even after public opinion was turning against him. SirJamesDTech told JoRo to split each screenshotinto multiple parts and that the plan would be to release them on Kiwi Farms one section per day. So again the ground was softened on Kiwi for the incoming assault on Fred and that Thursday August 3, 2017 JoRo created the user account Uhhhhhhh and posted the very first of the leaks.
The forum was incensed. James’ strategy was to immediately post a response to each leak with shock and indignation, analytically calling out Fred increasingly after each leak but not yet demanding he leave the SoK. Word began to spread within the community not only to Twitter but to DarksydePhil’s tumbleweed forums, where a thread was createdhighlighting what was happening with Fred and the SoK.
Fred’s response to this was to of course remain silent, since he knew that flapping his lips is what started all of this. He had done passive aggressive chicken shit such as retweeting EvilAJ comparing what TXT had contemplated with the Phil emote to starting a Patreon, even though Fred and the SoK had directly donated to Slowbeef monetizing DSP content.
Bryan had been very quiet since the assault on him on Twitter and then Kiwi. One evening about 10 days after the barrage on him and the community began, Pol DM’d TXT and said he wanted to patch things up. So it was Bryan, Jim (Mister Metokur), and TXT in a discord. They were able to hash together a real truce, but then minutes later Fred tried joining in the call and TXT refused, saying there would be no such an accord between them. Fred flipped the fuck out, telling Pol that TXT and he could work things out but now he was left holding all the pieces. Jim had given Fred some sage advice during this, telling him that the SoK had become a-loggers (people who think they are morally superior in every way to the person they make fun of) and that a lot of eyes were on what was happening on Kiwi Farms with the leaks. Jim recommended they branch out, follow and comment on other YouTubers, not exclusively DSP. Fred flippantly thumbed his nose at Jim, saying they will stay on Phil regardless.
That night, TXT DM’d SirJamesDTech that Bryan wanted to talk. TXT assured him that he came in peace, and so Pol and James DM’d where he asked if he could send audio of hisgenuine story, that Fred had egged him on to fight with TXT about the monetization and also to separately physically go to Norway to put Vidar Viking into a coma and film it. That night, James edited it and put it through the encoding process but not all the screencaps made it into the video. It was up on hisYouTube channel for 5 hours overnight.
The next morning, James told Bryan that there really wasn’t a lot of hard evidence included in the screenshots or what he was saying regarding being egged on by Fred, and that hewas going to privatize the video. Pol messaged back that Fred had already seen it and told Bryan that he was disgusting and removed from all SoK servers. So the video was pulled down Pol was told to not panic. The key would be Kiwi. (Interesting that later leaks revealed Fred conspired to have TXT and Pol take each other out and disappear from the community).
At this time, several days of leaks had been accumulated and they were having great effect at turning the community against the SoK. More users such as Supermariopawnstar were posting videos of Fred from recently and some time ago intimidating and blackmailing scared shitless kids who only looked up to him. James instructed JoRo to now release the leaks every other day so that they would last even longer.Additionally, JoRo was given the screenshots Bryan had sent James for the video and they were tactically released on Kiwi, including one where Fred admits that he knows we’re purposely putting the leaks out slowly.
More and more people were joining the fight, with Unsungherobot bringing the fire and unleashing a torrent of leaks of tremendously incriminating conversations of Fred’s and several other SoK members. It was at this time that Bryan was advised the coast was clear to re-release his video since Fred was getting so pulverized that he couldn’t publicly retort. Best of all, a YouTube alt account named Doctor of Fizz was used for the upload (haha). Anything to constantly keep Fred paranoid and off balance. When this all began with TXT, the goal was not to take out Fred or destroy the SoK. But after what we had all seen in the leaks, it was time to cut the head off the snake.
The thread really kicked into high gear as JoRo finished the initial leaks, announced himself as the one who had been posting them, and the group formed that became the 5 who were responsible for the leaks - @Unsungherobot , @Supermariopawnstar, Bryan aka @FedoraManManMan, @JoRo and @SirJamesDTech. Now known as the five. As an aside, Pol and I had by this point truced and have a mutual respect for one another and our work, though as I said once to somebody, we aren’t exactly texting each other goodnight.
This all lead to JoRo posting Fred’s very own lolcowthread, where he stands in infamy alongside DSP and Chris Chan. Since his thread began, even more people have become aware of the piece of shit Fred is and always has been. SoK members began removing their affiliation from their Twitter bio.
On Wednesday September 6, 2017 Renegade Operative created a monumental video, calling out Fred Fuchs and others in the SoK inner circle called Responding to the Sons of Kojima Leaks & Conspiracies. This gave a lot of SoK members the strength to speak out.
Thursday September 7, 2017 was Fred Fuchs’ Judgment Day. Che had a few days earlier come out strongly in severaltweets and a pastebin document, owning up to all the wrong deeds he had done in the past with the SoK while stating that everyone in the group was involved in the same things. He then released the video Che’s Response to Sons of Kojima Leakswhich inspired more members to stand strong while showing a huge amount of leaks he had in his possession. Kaz had been one of the members to change his Twitter @ away from an SoKrepresentation, and then came forward with a bomb, stating that when BeAwesomeOne levied copyright strikes against DSPGaming in 2015, the Sons of Kojima had authorized the plan in advance and had been lying about their involvement ever since.
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One last detail to add is the stream that happened on Loophole's channel yesterday (September 8th)
It was confirmed voting was taking place to ban Fred from the SOK (I think HMG mentioned it) Sep. 8 marks the end of Fred's involvement in the SOK.

@Che nice to see you here dude, you did good speaking out against Fred and the SOK.
 
Che said:
Hey what's going on everyone ..yes this is the real Che and I'm not saying that cause I'm some e celeb (I'm an irrelevant fuck who talks about 20 year old computer RPGs) get ready for a too long to read ..I'm posting here to give some thoughts and add my perspective perspective .. and I do type like a caveman cause I'm lazy Ill do my best to not type like Fred Flinstone.. First off I just want to say something that I will repeat 200 times .. every active member that was/is in the Sons of Kojima deserve criticism and ridicule ..that includes me too! It is true some members did more than other (Fred being the craziest bitch out there) but still we all did some shady shit and contributed that toxic group ..we helped built a monster that should have never existed in the first place ..the concept of Sons of Kojima is exceptional and ex members were fucking exceptional for building it up... I see members on here trying to act innocent (Rad Rad) and its no offensive but you were an active member.... does not matter if you are new .. you contributed to the Autistic Illuminati! The only member I will give a pass here is Caesar cause he was never involved he was barely around .. what we did was stupid ,autistic, exceptional, dumb, idiotic and every other bad name in the book and I take full responsibility for my part in that .. I left in early 2016 but still I was a fucking moron... Its only fair that a group that analyzed every aspect of someone's life get analyzed themselves when their skeletons come out the closet. We have to prove to everyone that we aren't fucking morons ..that will take some time

Let's get one thing straight .. Yes Fred is insecure and an egomaniac an he wanted control of the anti dsp "community" I don't care if you believe it or not its true .. He does act like some power hungry moron on the Internet because its the only place where he can "flex" his imaginary power.. he is a coward plain and simple ..he was so quick to strawman people in arguments and encourage the "community" go after anyone he didn't like but he runs like the insecure wannabe 3 day training under his belt fake MMA fighter he is ..but it is true you can't force anyone to do anything and ex member did exceptional things but the fact is the main reason why Fred is getting so much shit is because what he did .. He did some fucked up shit and I'm not playing the "I'm moral i'm better than you card" Its the truth .. he doxed people he didn't like .. he encouraged people to spy on motherfuckers and trace their online presence for years .. he came with bizarre conspiratorial about other people in the anti DSP "community" (For example: He thought Tevin was a proxy for TXT to take him out) .. He lied about where he got information from ( He claimed DSP fans did it ..it was him) and he took that information and spread it on websites so he could hope some anon fucker tries to fuck up Tevin or TXT or Ren's ex ..these people did nothing to him and they didn't hurt anyone else and while he was doing this he was playing the good guy pretending he was an example for everyone else Fred convinced a naive member to give him his skype info and the used that account when this member was sleeping to spy on the TCP chat for six months ..fact is .. Fred is the worst one of us all ... I want to mention something I haven't seen anyone else talk about .. its not surprising that Fred is getting most of the heat for 2 reasons 1. He did he worst stuff and 2. He proclaimed himself as the almighty leader of the SoK ..he takes the "presidency" bullshit seriously ... think of any team sport for example American Football.. the Quarterback is the leader of the team.. when the team wins he gets the most praise but when they lose he gets the most blame ..its only logical the "leader" of the SoK is getting the most heat for all the shit he did .. Fred had no problems with people kissing his ass and all the praise he got as president so he has to man up and take this heat... He wanted the "leadership" role so bad and now he is getting the bad side of it .. and the facts are he is the biggest piece of shit in the anti dsp "community" .. People like Fizz ,leoking and Nomad are the biggest fucking ass kissers and they aren't even genuine at all but Ex SoK members deserve to be caught in the internet crossfire because what we helped build was fucked up


After I left the group .. I never said anything about this crazy bs because I was embarrassed about what I did and what I helped build .. I didn't want anyone to know but you can't always get what you want .. when the leaks came out on Kiwifarms and everyone started to know the SoK is a fucking joke .. I was faced with 2 options 1. Pretend it never happened and hide or 2. Man the fuck up, own up to my mistakes and say something against this exceptional shit... You kiwi farm motherfuckers gave us the platform to actually have an impact with what we said .. we could not have done it on our own I was embarrassed and hiding from the stupid shit I did and other members didn't want to be a target in the "community" for 1 year some of these bitches followed everything I did online .. I never really posted that much on my own channel (1 review a month and maybe 2 other videos) and every time I uploaded I would have some sock account bugging me .. I also had people in private annoying the fuck out of me and calling me a traitor cause I left that exceptional bullshit... I know its not important at all in the grand scheme of things but you Kiwifarm mofos are the reason why the SoK is dead .. and I thank you for it

The SoK is dead ..there is no coming back from this but I know Fred ..he is hiding for 2 reasons 1. he is insecure coward and 2. he wants to wait and hope the heat goes away ..SoK is his life and he will not give it up without a fight .. He will be back at some point and try to resurrect the SoK with new members and try to pretend none of this never happened ..he did with doper and ardnas .. he is locked up in his room and really pissed off he is a lulcow now and he is furious ,angry, upset and sad about it .. He hates this with ever fiber of his being and no doubt he is watching all the threads and any streams so my message to you Fred is this .. If you try to bring the SoK back or try to do stuff on your own accounts we will be here to call you out .. I already talked to Tevin , Txt and plenty of former SoK members ..Fred Fuchs, if you come back and try to repair your damaged "reputation" we will be here to call you out ... you ain't living this down .. I will never forgive you and I'm sure other won't either but from a "Political" perspective you botched the only chance you had to save face with the "community" .. You wrote a weak ass twitlonger and are now in hiding like Saddam.. SoK is dead ..your reputation is dead .. you almost become the Internet celeb you so desperately wanted to be but you didn't realize that you would get the same treatment you gave others ..You wanted people to troll shield you and you thought you were above criticism ..I know it hurts you so much and deep down inside you hate me for doing what I did .. I'm glad I did it Fred ..you sacrificed so much for you precious "Internet" reputation .. Was it worth it? I just want to apologize again for my fuck ups and me trying to sweep everything under the rug .. I wasn't raised to run from my issues but I did for awhile

I know this is long as fuck and I hope you read ..Hey Fred, I got plenty of 4am conspiracy stories and more .. the fast food fake girlfriend stories, the weird plans you hatched, the calls where you bugged me 1 hour before I went to work and you sat there and thought everyone was conspiring against you .. you shouted words like "CONSPIRACY" and "PROXY... You're fuched Fred ..give it up .. Once again thank you to all you kiwifarms motherfuckers ... I know some of you think I'm autistic and exceptional and that's okay .. I can't blame you haha ..if any of you have any questions you can ask me here or in private somewhere whether its here or Twitter ..have a great day

P.S Loop has control of the channel too and he changed it .. Fred is locked up in his room playing Destiny 2 like a scared bitch and I know he watches all of this and is trying to dox ex members to get "revenge" btw Fred's parents are loaded and he gets everything handed to him ..he sits online 24/7 hoping people kiss his ass ..
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While he may come back, let's be honest, his shitty group would not last a day. He's not DSP with his cockroach powers of staying around and sustained despite overwhelming evidence of his shitty doings.
 
It is a slow process ..at first it was just a silly group where we talked about games,movies and cringe videos .. When Fred became "Leader" at first he was alright ..not obsessive just laid back like the rest of us ..when we first started the SoKast ..it was short 1-2 hour videos and we just laughed and didn't get really personal with DSP.. We made fun of him and tried playing the moral card but it wasn't obsessive ..The podcast was made in Oct. 2014 and later on mid 2015 we started to get a small fanbase and a bit off attention .. we talked to people like slowbeef and Das.. I admit we let it get to our heads and we loved the attention but something worse was going on .. Fred was the first one to really fucking get obsessed with attention .. he would go on about "MOMENTUM " and " ITS OUR CHANCE TO SHINE".. I would say it was around this time where Fred really started showing who he was ..and look I was an idiot . I was a dumb 20 year old insecure faggot .. I was insecure about my sexuality and other things but its not an excuse I should have known better

late 2014- early 2015 is where Fred really starts going off the deep end .. I guess he confided in my cause he saw me as an "enforcer" cause I spoke my mind no matter what and I grew up in a real bad area ..oh god i just cringe at actually being called an "enforcer" for a fucking Youtube podcast .. He would try calling me when I was out with friends or working and I would tell him "later" he would get angry about that .. I just thought he was socially awkward and wanted friends .. I don't look down on anyone for being socially awkward .. I' m not like that but it must suck .. so I just took it as him needing someone to talk to ...I was wrong .. I didn't have much time to always talk but I did work early morning and he noticed my pattern of when I was around ..he would call me before work ranting about Pasc4l and how much he hates him for liking anime and being a "Fegit" and all this crazy shit .. I just thought he was an idiot .. I admit I didn't like pasc4l at first because we didn't click but his reasons are fucking insane .. I would say the DIVAS situation was the final straw for Fred's insanity .. He really thought Divas was conspiring against him in the worst way... He would rant about our standing in the community and how he had to take it back .. He literally saw it as "Us vs Divas" ..he is the one that made the divas video because everyone else was busy and didnt want to waste all those hours doing heavy editing on a drama video.. I sided with the group I was in because I was cool with everyone in there .. I believe Fred was trying to use his grade school Pol Sci knowledge to try and become head honcho of this community but thats not it .. he is legit insane.. I think he really is schizophrenic.. He saw enemies where there was none .. he swore to people that Pasc4l was working for Divas ..even after the divas situation ended he thought Pasc4l was a mole.. why did I stay? ..well I liked most of the people in there and I thought I could make it normal ... I was retarded

This is not really personal but I want you to know how petty and retarded Fred is .. Here is a little story .. When I was a teeneager (I'm 24 now... I was an aggressive idiot .. I thought the small amount of experience I had in boxing made me a badass .. I wanted to join a gang but thank god I didn't I was raised better than that ..now to the important part .. I had beef with some local dude and it got the point where we hated eachother ..we fought at least once a month and I won some and lost some ..I saw him behind a 7-11 and we started fighting .. I got the upper hand and wanted to really fuck him up ...he pulled out a gun and wanted to shoot me in the face ..luckily he didn't ( I taunted him to do it so thank god he didn't act on it) and we put it past us

What is the point of this story? well pay attention .. me and that man that wanted to kill me made peace and we moved on .. Its easier to squash a grudge with a man that pulled a gun on me than Fred Fuchs..that should tell you something .. when I left the group and moved on Fred never did move on ...He thought I was working to get my channel to a good amount of subscribers to "take him over" he still hates divas, txt and Tevin ... THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING .. If its easier to make peace with a dude who wanted to shoot you than Fred Fuchs...you know Fred is legit insane and a pussy


BIgBadWolf said:
Did things change as soon as he became the "leader"? Thinking back about it, the SOK went from a bunch of friends/people laughing at someone who can't take responsibility for his fuck ups while playing video games to analysing every words and things he did even outside of his gameplay. It's like the obsession kicked in and the SOK now wanted to see him ruined both financially and socially. When you think about it this way you have to ask yourself "If they're acting this way towards Phil, wishing him bad things, obsessing over him, etc. What kind of people are they really?"
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Che said:
It is a slow process ..at first it was just a silly group where we talked about games,movies and cringe videos .. When Fred became "Leader" at first he was alright ..not obsessive just laid back like the rest of us ..when we first started the SoKast ..it was short 1-2 hour videos and we just laughed and didn't get really personal with DSP.. We made fun of him and tried playing the moral card but it wasn't obsessive ..The podcast was made in Oct. 2014 and later on mid 2015 we started to get a small fanbase and a bit off attention .. we talked to people like slowbeef and Das.. I admit we let it get to our heads and we loved the attention but something worse was going on .. Fred was the first one to really fucking get obsessed with attention .. he would go on about "MOMENTUM " and " ITS OUR CHANCE TO SHINE".. I would say it was around this time where Fred really started showing who he was ..and look I was an idiot . I was a dumb 20 year old insecure faggot .. I was insecure about my sexuality and other things but its not an excuse I should have known better

late 2014- early 2015 is where Fred really starts going off the deep end .. I guess he confided in my cause he saw me as an "enforcer" cause I spoke my mind no matter what and I grew up in a real bad area ..oh god i just cringe at actually being called an "enforcer" for a fucking Youtube podcast .. He would try calling me when I was out with friends or working and I would tell him "later" he would get angry about that .. I just thought he was socially awkward and wanted friends .. I don't look down on anyone for being socially awkward .. I' m not like that but it must suck .. so I just took it as him needing someone to talk to ...I was wrong .. I didn't have much time to always talk but I did work early morning and he noticed my pattern of when I was around ..he would call me before work ranting about Pasc4l and how much he hates him for liking anime and being a "Fegit" and all this crazy shit .. I just thought he was an idiot .. I admit I didn't like pasc4l at first because we didn't click but his reasons are fucking insane .. I would say the DIVAS situation was the final straw for Fred's insanity .. He really thought Divas was conspiring against him in the worst way... He would rant about our standing in the community and how he had to take it back .. He literally saw it as "Us vs Divas" ..he is the one that made the divas video because everyone else was busy and didnt want to waste all those hours doing heavy editing on a drama video.. I sided with the group I was in because I was cool with everyone in there .. I believe Fred was trying to use his grade school Pol Sci knowledge to try and become head honcho of this community but thats not it .. he is legit insane.. I think he really is schizophrenic.. He saw enemies where there was none .. he swore to people that Pasc4l was working for Divas ..even after the divas situation ended he thought Pasc4l was a mole.. why did I stay? ..well I liked most of the people in there and I thought I could make it normal ... I was exceptional

This is not really personal but I want you to know how petty and exceptional Fred is .. Here is a little story .. When I was a teeneager (I'm 24 now... I was an aggressive idiot .. I thought the small amount of experience I had in boxing made me a badass .. I wanted to join a gang but thank god I didn't I was raised better than that ..now to the important part .. I had beef with some local dude and it got the point where we hated eachother ..we fought at least once a month and I won some and lost some ..I saw him behind a 7-11 and we started fighting .. I got the upper hand and wanted to really fuck him up ...he pulled out a gun and wanted to shoot me in the face ..luckily he didn't ( I taunted him to do it so thank god he didn't act on it) and we put it past us

What is the point of this story? well pay attention .. me and that man that wanted to kill me made peace and we moved on .. Its easier to squash a grudge with a man that pulled a gun on me than Fred Fuchs..that should tell you something .. when I left the group and moved on Fred never did move on ...He thought I was working to get my channel to a good amount of subscribers to "take him over" he still hates divas, txt and Tevin ... THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING .. If its easier to make peace with a dude who wanted to shoot you than Fred Fuchs...you know Fred is legit insane and a pussy
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There's something that isn't clear. You start off saying that by mid 2015 "we started to get a small fanbase and a bit off attention .. we talked to people like slowbeef and Das.. I admit we let it get to our heads and we loved the attention but something worse was going on .. Fred was the first one to really fucking get obsessed with attention .. he would go on about "MOMENTUM " and " ITS OUR CHANCE TO SHINE".. I would say it was around this time where Fred really started showing who he was"
but you state "late 2014- early 2015 is where Fred really starts going off the deep end "
So when did Fred go nuts? late 2014 or mid 2015?
 
Ill explain ... late 2014 was the start of the divas situation and it drove Fred crazy but the really crazy shit didn't start until mid 2015 when the divas thing escalated and that video was made ..around that time we got a bit of attention and Fred thought divas was going to take that away


RIP_SANITY said:
There's something that isn't clear. You start off saying that by mid 2015 "we started to get a small fanbase and a bit off attention .. we talked to people like slowbeef and Das.. I admit we let it get to our heads and we loved the attention but something worse was going on .. Fred was the first one to really fucking get obsessed with attention .. he would go on about "MOMENTUM " and " ITS OUR CHANCE TO SHINE".. I would say it was around this time where Fred really started showing who he was"
but you state "late 2014- early 2015 is where Fred really starts going off the deep end "
So when did Fred go nuts? late 2014 or mid 2015?
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Che, the images in my head you have given me of Fred calling you at 4 am shouting at you about plans and conspiracies has given me a great laugh
 
Che said:
Ill explain ... late 2014 was the start of the divas situation and it drove Fred crazy but the really crazy shit didn't start until mid 2015 when the divas thing escalated and that video was made ..around that time we got a bit of attention and Fred thought divas was going to take that away
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thanks for clearing that up.
 
The smartest thing for anyone involved in this shit show is to ghost everyone. Wait out idiot storm and move on with life.

For reason that makes no sense, Fred seems only person that recognizes this.

Getting into stupid twitter and youtube beefs, dragging out shit...its counter productive. There is nothing anyone can say or do that makes mob happy. So ignore the mob. Eventually mob moves onto next stupid thing that upsets them.
 
Che said:
We've all been there brotha ...only difference is our exceptional shit was shown to everyone ...and for good reasons
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I do respect yourself coming clean with this and other former sok members. at least its a good start fixing things.

Though to be fair Fred always sound like a cuck to me, never sounded like a leader of morons. i feel really the main leader should of been no one but fred killed fred
 
Eh .. I disagree .. I wouldn't really call it dragging out .. This will be talked about whether we like it or not .. This thread was made without any of us saying anything .. You either own up to your mistakes and let the people that were targeted know ..or you bitch out .. I don't give a fuck if a mob accepts me I'm doing this for me ..you can't please everyone and I don't give a fuck about that .. Fred is actually making it worse by hiding lol .. If he was genuine and didn't hide we wouldn't have all these streams haha

JustStopDude said:
The smartest thing for anyone involved in this shit show is to ghost everyone. Wait out idiot storm and move on with life.

For reason that makes no sense, Fred seems only person that recognizes this.

Getting into stupid twitter and youtube beefs, dragging out shit...its counter productive. There is nothing anyone can say or do that makes mob happy. So ignore the mob. Eventually mob moves onto next stupid thing that upsets them.
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I just realised. You know those time when other detractors got their videos taken down and people blamed Phil or Phil's fanboys for it? Would it be correct to say that a bunch of them were actually Fred? Because there were times when Phil would deny that he did shit like that because he "doesn't look into it or watch those videos" so people just thought it was fanboys, maybe he didn't? Maybe it was Fred?
 
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