Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

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SirJamesDTech said:
Would you say Fred is essentially a cult leader?
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I could. During the argument I mentioned before that took place while he muted everyone, the fight became "Fred is the leader of the group" so he unmuted those he muted and asked one by one "Do you see me as leader?" putting them on the spot in the middle of a tense and quite ferocious argument he was having. At the time I was buying into his crap so I said he was simply the voice of the group but not the leader, as did everyone else. That imo is exact Cult Mentality when it comes to the leader demanding you tell him if hes ordering you around or not and puts the pressure on you for it.
 
WatcherintheShadows said:
I could. During the argument I mentioned before that took place while he muted everyone, the fight became "Fred is the leader of the group" so he unmuted those he muted and asked one by one "Do you see me as leader?" putting them on the spot in the middle of a tense and quite ferocious argument he was having. At the time I was buying into his crap so I said he was simply the voice of the group but not the leader, as did everyone else. That imo is exact Cult Mentality when it comes to the leader demanding you tell him if hes ordering you around or not and puts the pressure on you for it.
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I am curious, did anyone say "No" while Fred was going around the room unmuting people and asking if they see him as leader?
If someone did or had said no, what would have happened to them?
 
I was asking if Fred stalked any family members other than the ex, Divas.

Other than that, a friend told me Fred freaked out and yelled at someone for hanging out with a person who dislikes Fred. Paranoid af. Damn.
 
SirJamesDTech said:
I am curious, did anyone say "No" while he was going around the room doing this?
If someone did or had, what would have happened to them?
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Just to clarify, the question was "Do you see Fred as the leader of the SoK?" which we now know is practically the truth due to his actions.

No, no one disagreed with his stance, and if they did, they would have been dragged into this strawman argument he was having with the other user, and basically would have manipulated his way through it to look like he was a victim and the people saying he was the leader and not just a member of the SoK were wrong. Basically, the argument was about defending people on a server he was apart of, and that as the leader of the SoK who criticize DSP and criticize him for attacking his fans, Fred should be doing something about it, to which he finally unmuted everyone and one by one "Do you see me as the leader of the SoK? Yes or no? Ok, I'll skip you and get back to you in a minute to answer then" and would move on. He was essentially called out on his crap and was pushing back and you could feel in the audio call that if anyone said yes, then you made his list and now you get to be roasted by him as well.
 
SirJamesDTech said:
Would you say Fred is essentially a cult leader?
If so, how does he get people to follow him undyingly like this? I understand that he has surface-level charisma, but there are still some people defending him.
Help us understand, if you can.
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Yes i fully believe it at this point. I think a lot of it is two fold.

1. They do not like saying no, and are afraid to say no to Fred and are relectunt on being called out. I am used as an example because the 1 hour video about me could be on Renegade or Che or any other person who dares to walk out also Fred might have calls, dox, blackmail on top of it, and are afraid to have it come out so they basically defend him and double down because in their minds they would rather not be exposed and just follow Fred. But you can tell they do not like it and are worried. For me i had the same feeling as well being in there, and its hard just look at Renegade and how when he left suddenly he was downvoted to hell, twitter alts calling him out, and SOK members sneak dissing Renegade and Renegade went back in due to fear. You have to remember there was no kiwifarms and there was no way to have anyone tell them "its alright to leave and its alright go if you feel like it" like it is here. Its welcoming.

2. This may be their only shot at popularity due to views, yes i know Phil calls us all out on this but nobody cant deny there are a few that do this, where people want to get their name out using Phil. I notice people that have great talent and can draw, can video edit and record and think "wow my video gets 600 views but with SOK and their 700,000k view count i could get my name out quicker". The thing is it never works because everyone wants Phil content only, they do enjoy the drawings, the little funny videos but lets be honest you cant make much money off of it. Even SOK struggled with water charity for a time if i remember what someone else told me and Tevin as he mentioned in his video made 15$ total, not saying Tevin or SOK do this but its just an example of why it never really works. Darksydephil is pretty much a genre in itself like the Chris Chans, the Wizardchans, the Redpill community, the SJW's if you get what i mean.


CyanideCaesar said:
To degree I understand a commitment to the group, with a podcast there needs to be some sort of chemistry between the people otherwise it just seems awkward. But the things that blew up outside and inside of it were unnecessary. It wasn't just the podcast, it had all this extra problems which I didn't like.I could understand members wanting to leave.
The only one who I think is a rat bastard for the way he left is Renegade, every single person in that group current or previous would tell you the same thing. He caused drama for the group as a whole, with his twitlongers and Q&As saying how he had a problem rather than just saying it straight up to us or help fix it. There were 3 meetings set up so we could talk this out with him 2 of which were at a time we selected and 1 where he selected the time. He no showed for all 3. We kicked him out and then he began trashing us fully like the phony he was. He's no different than Fred if were talking about trying to steal the spotlight.
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Absolutely i can get what you mean i did see it happen sometimes i can only imagine getting worse when i left there especially when i didint want to be involved much anymore. There was fighting a lot and people disliking each other and it was just one of those things were it became a thing of chaos. I dont know much about the fights but i know enough to say i did see it happen. I think the thing is Renegade felt awkward in the same way i did. Its not the fact both of us hate anyone or to discuss things, but its just the paranoia that comes with the feeling with Fred. If hes not with us he is against us, i mean you did see how our fears were confirmed with Fred asking Miles and Fizz to get logs, calls, screencaps. I think he should have done it to where he said "i am going to leave next week" do it and then be done. But like all things you cant change the past, it is what it is.
 
WatcherintheShadows said:
Just to clarify, the question was "Do you see Fred as the leader of the SoK?" which we now know is practically the truth due to his actions.

No, no one disagreed with his stance, and if they did, they would have been dragged into this strawman argument he was having with the other user, and basically would have manipulated his way through it to look like he was a victim and the people saying he was the leader and not just a member of the SoK were wrong. Basically, the argument was about defending people on a server he was apart of, and that as the leader of the SoK who criticize DSP and criticize him for attacking his fans, Fred should be doing something about it, to which he finally unmuted everyone and one by one "Do you see me as the leader of the SoK? Yes or no? Ok, I'll skip you and get back to you in a minute to answer then" and would move on. He was essentially called out on his crap and was pushing back and you could feel in the audio call that if anyone said yes, then you made his list and now you get to be roasted by him as well.
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If he felt disrespected he would make it known, Pascal and I were messing with him during a Smash stream and as soon as it was over he started yelling at both of us. I was so pissed I left the group but eventually went back in because it I thought it was just a one time thing. It was pure bullshit he NEVER got the thrown under the bus like most of the members did, whenever I would try to he would just be snarky back.
 
Skyclaw said:
Fuck stop leaking so much i can't keep up...this is gunna ruin my marriage.

On topic, Eddy feels like he is wholly responsible because he's one of the bigger faces of the Anti-DSP stuff, and he's one of the few people DSP is aware of, so if phil were to go to the police over the swatting Eddy feels like he would be the one arrested.

Eddy has been saying this for around a year now like every now and then he'll get really depressed and say things like "i'm a criminal, i'm not a person" it takes alot of work to convince him that he is not at fault for anything.
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Yeah, your poor fake marriage. How will you ever recover?
 
If y'all just donated one dolla a month, Fred Fuchs would never need to infiltrate the day to day life of another SoK member again.
 
A Witty Name said:
"you either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain"
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Okay, lets get real. All these people were fucking losers and this day was coming. I've been expecting this for 6 months. Can't even stomach their videos and I have no idea how other people do.
 
Thats so appropriate too. Hes taking hits from all sides, but its the one in the back that ends up getting him and landing by his sign of the world being his.
 
I would love if one or all of you could clarify something. How exactly did Fred get to be the leader of the SoK?
I was in a discord with an ex-member who described it as being like Stalin coming into power. That he was not voted in.
 
Repzlid said:
This doesn't strike me as something he'll make a video on unless things get kicked up to 11 and someone drags him into it. Plus he's got a schedule to fufill for his Patrons, making a video about this would probably cut into said schedule.
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Bitch nigga I think we're already past 11 by quite a bit.
I'm more curious to know that if DSP actually 'engineers' things for sympathy points/attention what he's going to have to do to top what is currently happening in this thread.

I cannot wait.
 
reawrestling said:
diva i hope you come back on youtube, you made some good videos,

As for Fred it would be funny if he just came out and did the dsp "thank you worthless losers for the views" but lets face fred is in deep shit and is already close to go nuclear if jim or anyone around them lines sees it the sok can never recover
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Thank you so much for that, i may never get the chance to say this, but everytime i receive any comment no matter how small it has always motivated me to make my videos better and to keep pushing through to make it funny or to go the next level even when i was doing it. I am still considering making more videos down the road and if i do it may be once in awhile but i will make up with higher quality all that jazz. The thing is if Jim makes the video on Sons Of Kojima its over and i hope after this everyone learns from this as a lesson. Do not make anymore groups and cliques and that stuff. You do not need to have a group to take down Darksydephil, you can be independent you can partner with someone for a video and help them out, you can chat with another person. In fact the rule was even before SOK ever existed was, we are in charge of our own actions and we must lead by example. People worked together even before this happened and it was much better back then than it is now. There were trolls and people that disliked each other certainly but everyone just learned to avoid each other if that was the case or not reply.

FunnY said:
I was asking if Fred stalked any family members other than the ex, Divas.

Other than that, a friend told me Fred freaked out and yelled at someone for hanging out with a person who dislikes Fred. Paranoid af. Damn.
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I believe it. I actually did discuss this as well. I asked a question "lets say i talked to X user and we chatted is that alright" and Fred did agree but you can sense he didint like it with his voice, i also asked if i can still "chat in a room that has nothing DSP related" and he said "well if you make another room i need to be in it" he is strange and always has had conspiracies in his head that you are spying on him or doing things behind his back. Yet he did it himself as the leaks show. Reminds me of the story of when an girlfriend accuses you of cheating yet you did not and she cheated on you and is allowed to do it because double standards do not exist apparently. Also Fred is strange i wont say much except that when i was leaving the group and said i was he made it exactly like he told Harmfest? I cant remember his name on twitter like Hitler on South Park "come on guy be apart of the cream of the crop the best members ever" and its like "dude i dont care i just want to leave". He is not afraid to go after people behind the scenes there is proof of that here in the leaks.
 
Gee, who would have thought that a community based around obsessively hating a fat loser who's bad at video games would turn out to be full of complete autists?
 
SirJamesDTech said:
I would love if one or all of you could clarify something. How exactly did Fred get to be the leader of the SoK?
I was in a discord with an ex-member who described it as being like Stalin coming into power. That he was not voted in.
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I can explain it completely. Because i decided to go against Fred because i disliked him and made it obvious Renegade thought it would be a huge troll to let Fred get into power and Hollywood Kojima said it was alright to do so. But Fred did a lot of kissing up to Renegade and i mean A LOT we all know he did this with helping Renegade with his first computer that he built, and supposedly talking to him for hours and Renegade just let it happen and gained power just like that. I even questioned it because Fred just came in with no experience, he was a nobody and was not in even for 3 months or so, while anyone else could have gained the leadership position. They thought it was a great troll and believed Fred on everything. Even the fact he was first place at the spelling bee, he was class president and that he had great grades. It makes me laugh right now just even thinking about the fact the true enemy was never Darksydephil but it was the person taking advantage of their kindness and let them in. Kind of Jewish if you ask me.
 
I've been monitoring this quietly and been trying to be neutral to this situation. However, it's at the point where it's just hopeless to defend the SoK now, especially Fred. This has been coming for a long time and any more lies from Fred will just make him look worse in the end. (Like the 2 years thing, I disagree and can vouch on that and say he's, more than likely, still doing it.)
 
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