Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

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What is your opinion of Che? I heard there was tension between him and Fred even before he left.

CyanideCaesar said:
Boy what a shit show this turned out to be, but whatever it is what is. I was in the Sons of Kojima until yesterday, I wasn't really paying attention to the group for the past month due to lack of interest. I joined the group originally because of my interest in podcasts and radio (I liked Opie and Anthony). When these leaks came they were all really new to me. I was really appalled all of this shit came out. You may call me a liar but consider the following:

1. I joined the group early 2015, even then I wasn't a "member" I stuck around in the side chat for a while which was mostly just people the SoK was interested in to talk to. I didn't become a member until late 2015.
2. I was gone from the group between December 2015 to June 2017. I was busy with other things such as work and school to focus on. It also felt a lot more hostile in Skype and it wasn't fun to be around.
3. I came back 2017 simply because I was bored, I thought also the group had changed (which it did to some capacity).
4. There were also multiple side chats ongoing to discuss different things that I wasn't apart of.

I was never really an integral part of the group, even when I tried to be I felt like it wasn't going in the right direction, nor was I given ample opportunity to do so. I saw Che's video and I realized everything he said was right. I could probably shed light on some details that are being confused. I really don't know where to start or what to clarify for you guys so I'll let you decide. If you have any questions for me (or criticisms) feel free to ask. I'll be back and forth, so it might take me a bit to respond back.

P.S.: That's not Fred
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CyanideCaesar said:
Boy what a shit show this turned out to be, but whatever it is what is. I was in the Sons of Kojima until yesterday, I wasn't really paying attention to the group for the past month due to lack of interest. I joined the group originally because of my interest in podcasts and radio (I liked Opie and Anthony). When these leaks came they were all really new to me. I was really appalled all of this shit came out. You may call me a liar but consider the following:

1. I joined the group early 2015, even then I wasn't a "member" I stuck around in the side chat for a while which was mostly just people the SoK was interested in to talk to. I didn't become a member until late 2015.
2. I was gone from the group between December 2015 to June 2017. I was busy with other things such as work and school to focus on. It also felt a lot more hostile in Skype and it wasn't fun to be around.
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I can attest to it becoming worse even before 2015, its when Fred became the leader over time it went from good hangout and enjoy bantering, chilling out and watching videos to Corporate "you have to be in the chat every week otherwise you are not a real member" i was shocked when everything changed and i knew it was just becoming a culture of views, popularity, podcasts and virtue signals than the thing they advertise it as a "group of friends", i dont know what kind of friends spy on each other and are built on distrust and if it is truly a group of friends along with everything Fred advertised it to be then Che, Renegade and the rest wouldent have to leave in the way they did. I feel bad for them than someone who would tell them "i told you so". I did chat with Fred a long while back about it about why they needed these long podcasts and why they needed to upload video game playthroughs and this stuff. You know the answer "because we want to show Darksydephil fans we have lives", yes you heard me right they do long things on podcasts and playthroughs just to show us they have lives outside of Darksydephil. I will never forget that. It was a strange answer to this day.
 
THEKINGOFDIVASVLOGS said:
I can attest to it becoming worse even before 2015, its when Fred became the leader over time it went from good hangout and enjoy bantering, chilling out and watching videos to Corporate "you have to be in the chat every week otherwise you are not a real member" i was shocked when everything changed and i knew it was just becoming a culture of views, popularity, podcasts and virtue signals than the thing they advertise it as a "group of friends", i dont know what kind of friends spy on each other and are built on distrust and if it is truly a group of friends along with everything Fred advertised it to be then Che, Renegade and the rest wouldent have to leave in the way they did. I feel bad for them than someone who would tell them "i told you so". I did chat with Fred a long while back about it about why they needed these long podcasts and why they needed to upload video game playthroughs and this stuff. You know the answer "because we want to show Darksydephil fans we have lives", yes you heard me right they do long things on podcasts and playthroughs just to show us they have lives outside of Darksydephil. I will never forget that. It was a strange answer to this day.
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Which is funny, because the "gaming news and other bullshit" part of their weekly podcast was always the most irritating part.
 
THEKINGOFDIVASVLOGS said:
To him anyone and everyone is a traitor even if you disagree and want to get out of the group i guess, i mean think about it, he has 3 rooms one main room, another for vetting fake members, and a podcast room, then Che brings to light a 4th room for the TRUE members only. This is just insecurity at its highest level even worse is to realize that those who you thought were your good friends just made another room behind your back.
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I cannot stress how incredibly powerful this is.
Fred actually set the SoK up to be an autistic Illuminati.
 
THEKINGOFDIVASVLOGS said:
"Is it on the inside, is it Divas or Dudedaman, cause they will edit that, they see Hollywood Kojima Evilaj2010,DSPTXT they will try to take it down"

Really Fred? You thought you could frame the entire ED page on me and Dudedaman? I can not stay silent after this and especially being linked here by Tevin's video. I know exactly when this took place. While it is true that yes i had an involvement on help writing the ED page as it was a group effort of those who were kicked out or who had disagreed and were seeing the SOK become lolcows, and i did go against the SOK for an amount of time. I would never ever go on people i respect, have made videos with, have been in group chats and chatted with each other and i would not go on people i do not really know unless i really disagreed or it was something on the extreme end like basically you would have to kill a dog or even be as paranoid or as crazy as Fred is. It makes no sense why i would even go after Hollywood Kojima, Evilaj2010,Renegade and DSPTxt even they should ask themselves why nothing came out on them, because i have nothing on them i do not even care what Txt had for breakfast. Even if we all had our differences i still respected their decision to stay and i would not go after people its just not in my nature, i would not even go after smaller users it just is pointless and i would gain nothing from it, but it would be in Fred's case judging by all the leaks. Ironically i get along with mostly everyone including those i disagree with because i welcome a discussion, not like Fred who wants private to get the whole "i gotcha" thing as blackmail, because like all things if you have nothing to hide why not come out and talk about it and allow an investigation? As for the ED page The original did not include Evilaj2010, DSPTXT, or Hollywood Kojima at all and i had nothing on them and nothing against them. This might be why he was trying to bait me and Dudedaman but i decided it was not worth doing anything on it. Fred just decided to add more and say "there was missing pieces wow hate Divas forever" and everyone bought it like fools. I didint know he did this but it makes complete sense why he would want to keep people hating me and use this as an example of why SOK is credible yet i am the outcast. To him anyone and everyone is a traitor even if you disagree and want to get out of the group i guess, i mean think about it, he has 3 rooms one main room, another for vetting fake members, and a podcast room, then Che brings to light a 4th room for the TRUE members only. This is just insecurity at its highest level even worse is to realize that those who you thought were your good friends just made another room behind your back.

To give more info i use to be member back in 2014-2015, I do not know how everything works in the current incarnation of the SOK or everything in the timeline but from what i have seen and witnessed linked to me all over the place this is just crazy i would never expect i would make a comment and this stuff came to light by members who were really loyal to Fred himself. Also DSPTXT if you are reading this i read your twitter message a few years back and i am so thankful for what you said to me and for the rest that are out right now currently without you guys i do not think i would be able to make this post as i did. I do know Fred will go after me and try to paint me as someone that is indeed evil or that somehow i would make alts to specifically target people i do not like because somehow i am the beaten horse that Fred likes to keep hitting. I know he will say it because i watched Tevin's stream and what Fred said about me in the end was absolutely false, i do not care about Dasboschitt drama i did not care about the battle with Ardnas it just brought to light what most people already knew and just wanted to frame me more and more as an enemy the US Vs them mentality that only communists like. I have no time to make alt accounts and do crazy mental gymnastics i have things to do with my life and lolcows to laugh at, games to play, politics to read and anime to watch. I cant help but to say this thread is entertaining so far!
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Ok i expected some faggotry from them, but four fucking rooms?
 
SirJamesDTech said:
I cannot stress how incredibly powerful this is.
Fred actually set the SoK up to be an autistic Illuminati.
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And all over making fun of some exceptional 30+ year old man who sucks at video games, who was smart enough to profit off it, but too exceptional to not turn it into a career.


We've truly been witnessing the breaking of new levels of the Autism Threshold. The whole Ross ordeal, then SoK imploding right after. This is one hell of a rabbit hole, and one hell of a time to be alive.
 
inb4 the inevitable freedom chat thread when i let my admin powers get to my head...
 
SirJamesDTech said:
Welcome back, Divas.
Thank you so much for your testimony.
Standing ovation for you stepping forward!
Now stick around for awhile because we would love your thoughts here in various threads on Kiwi.
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Thanks man, its great to be back on the kiwi's again. Also i will try my best to answer questions as well.


Moritsune said:
Ok i expected some faggotry from them, but four fucking rooms?
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Yes i am not kidding you on this that was the first sign i knew this was bad and i had to leave. It was strange because we had one room and then suddenly because a user actually dare called Fred out and started drama they said "well lets make another room for vetting", then there is one room for vetting and then another room for the REAL members, and another for a podcast. Then Che reveals a 4th room which some people were suspecting Fred did because he can not trust anyone even those he says he trusts. The guy is crazy because its one of those things, if someone spies on you and leaks something you just kick them out and leave it be, but if you keep making more chatrooms on top of chatrooms then you just have lost your mind completely even i was starting to believe i entered the twilight zone and i could not believe what happened. Its weird how i asked about this and said "isent this a bit strange" nobody said anything and not one questioned how silly it was.
 
I used to defend Fred, and as a watcher of everything that has been happening with the recent drama between TXT and KoP, which digressed into KoP vs Fred, I actually defended Fred and was actually going to make a video addressing KoP as I felt he was in the wrong in the situation, but after seeing all this evidence, I really can't believe I was going to try and defend Fred. Now that I have seen the light, I can tell you 2 things.

1. Fred loves being in charge. In the discord I was in, he relished being the leader, despite not doing anything, and would occasionally crack jokes about kicking people out of amusement. The entire reason he was even made an admin was due to a joke poll made about him becoming an admin there, which he seized and forced on everyone to vote on, despite having backlash from people with geniune concern and opposition which he just brushed off and pushed forward anyway making peace offerings and goodwill gestures. Once getting in charge, he started to use his power just to insult others, albeit some of it being funny, but due to who is doing it, I can't stand by the humor of it all, such as making an entire group in the server simply to make one user feel bad about himself not having a girlfriend at the time, which just further shows he likes to harass and abuse power. He also made the 1v1 room which KoP mentioned before for him and his fan girl/girlfriend to hang out in and have no one else to talk in when they are in there. One user was even blacklisted by Fred after a joke cut Fred too deep and they began an argument which lasted at least two days with the user being mocked for his new "role" in the server simply because Fred had a bad day. Granted, he apologized for it, but it was in the presence of said girlfriend and others seeing him being exposed.

2. Fred is a direct liar and deflects any responsibility. Many times he has directly said in his own literal words coming out of his mouth "I am not in charge of anything". Whenever someone was needing help with anyone in the server or the SoK itself, he would stick behind the "They won't listen to me" logic and refuse to even say anything towards the group. He even spent an entire afternoon muting everyone just to fight with this person over whether Fred and the SoK are morally right when it comes to criticizing/mocking people. Fred stuck to his guns that he doesn't control the group in any way, and that he has no power that cannot be equaled by anyone else when the truth was he found it amusing no matter what it was and he was simply shifting the blame to his fellow members and acting like he was in an asylum and the lunatics are the ones running it.

For those who found this too long, I'll TL:DR for you: Fred is a power hungry, teflon attitude man who is in many ways the same as Phil himself.

Fred, if you are reading any of this, maybe you should go back to the server and try and make true amends and not the stupid crap you did before.
 
THEKINGOFDIVASVLOGS said:
"Is it on the inside, is it Divas or Dudedaman, cause they will edit that, they see Hollywood Kojima Evilaj2010,DSPTXT they will try to take it down"

Really Fred? You thought you could frame the entire ED page on me and Dudedaman? I can not stay silent after this and especially being linked here by Tevin's video. I know exactly when this took place. While it is true that yes i had an involvement on help writing the ED page as it was a group effort of those who were kicked out or who had disagreed and were seeing the SOK become lolcows, and i did go against the SOK for an amount of time. I would never ever go on people i respect, have made videos with, have been in group chats and chatted with each other and i would not go on people i do not really know unless i really disagreed or it was something on the extreme end like basically you would have to kill a dog or even be as paranoid or as crazy as Fred is. It makes no sense why i would even go after Hollywood Kojima, Evilaj2010,Renegade and DSPTxt even they should ask themselves why nothing came out on them, because i have nothing on them i do not even care what Txt had for breakfast. Even if we all had our differences i still respected their decision to stay and i would not go after people its just not in my nature, i would not even go after smaller users it just is pointless and i would gain nothing from it, but it would be in Fred's case judging by all the leaks. Ironically i get along with mostly everyone including those i disagree with because i welcome a discussion, not like Fred who wants private to get the whole "i gotcha" thing as blackmail, because like all things if you have nothing to hide why not come out and talk about it and allow an investigation? As for the ED page The original did not include Evilaj2010, DSPTXT, or Hollywood Kojima at all and i had nothing on them and nothing against them. This might be why he was trying to bait me and Dudedaman but i decided it was not worth doing anything on it. Fred just decided to add more and say "there was missing pieces wow hate Divas forever" and everyone bought it like fools. I didint know he did this but it makes complete sense why he would want to keep people hating me and use this as an example of why SOK is credible yet i am the outcast. To him anyone and everyone is a traitor even if you disagree and want to get out of the group i guess, i mean think about it, he has 3 rooms one main room, another for vetting fake members, and a podcast room, then Che brings to light a 4th room for the TRUE members only. This is just insecurity at its highest level even worse is to realize that those who you thought were your good friends just made another room behind your back.

To give more info i use to be member back in 2014-2015, I do not know how everything works in the current incarnation of the SOK or everything in the timeline but from what i have seen and witnessed linked to me all over the place this is just crazy i would never expect i would make a comment and this stuff came to light by members who were really loyal to Fred himself. Also DSPTXT if you are reading this i read your twitter message a few years back and i am so thankful for what you said to me and for the rest that are out right now currently without you guys i do not think i would be able to make this post as i did. I do know Fred will go after me and try to paint me as someone that is indeed evil or that somehow i would make alts to specifically target people i do not like because somehow i am the beaten horse that Fred likes to keep hitting. I know he will say it because i watched Tevin's stream and what Fred said about me in the end was absolutely false, i do not care about Dasboschitt drama i did not care about the battle with Ardnas it just brought to light what most people already knew and just wanted to frame me more and more as an enemy the US Vs them mentality that only communists like. I have no time to make alt accounts and do crazy mental gymnastics i have things to do with my life and lolcows to laugh at, games to play, politics to read and anime to watch. I cant help but to say this thread is entertaining so far!
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Haven't seen you in a long while. I just think how Fred treated disagreeing like how he got mad that someone murdered a family member. Opinion is an opinion. Words are just plain words to just skim through by.

Likewise in the leaks, has Fred ever go through someone's family rather than someone's ex?
 
Supermariopawnstar said:
What is your opinion of Che? I heard there was tension between him and Fred even before he left.
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Che is an outstanding guy always honest and told his gut opinion on a situation. If there was argument between the two of them, it was civil. Che always felt like Fred would talk down to him though which would piss him off, I can agree to an extent. I don't know how or the way he left but I never thought he backstabbed the group or had any animosity towards us. Fred was very annoyed at Che about this for what reason I don't know, he never brought up the group unless someone asked him about it. I never understood the hostility.

THEKINGOFDIVASVLOGS said:
I can attest to it becoming worse even before 2015, its when Fred became the leader over time it went from good hangout and enjoy bantering, chilling out and watching videos to Corporate "you have to be in the chat every week otherwise you are not a real member" i was shocked when everything changed and i knew it was just becoming a culture of views, popularity, podcasts and virtue signals than the thing they advertise it as a "group of friends", i dont know what kind of friends spy on each other and are built on distrust and if it is truly a group of friends along with everything Fred advertised it to be then Che, Renegade and the rest wouldent have to leave in the way they did. I feel bad for them than someone who would tell them "i told you so". I did chat with Fred a long while back about it about why they needed these long podcasts and why they needed to upload video game playthroughs and this stuff. You know the answer "because we want to show Darksydephil fans we have lives", yes you heard me right they do long things on podcasts and playthroughs just to show us they have lives outside of Darksydephil. I will never forget that. It was a strange answer to this day.
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To degree I understand a commitment to the group, with a podcast there needs to be some sort of chemistry between the people otherwise it just seems awkward. But the things that blew up outside and inside of it were unnecessary. It wasn't just the podcast, it had all this extra problems which I didn't like.I could understand members wanting to leave.
The only one who I think is a rat bastard for the way he left is Renegade, every single person in that group current or previous would tell you the same thing. He caused drama for the group as a whole, with his twitlongers and Q&As saying how he had a problem rather than just saying it straight up to us or help fix it. There were 3 meetings set up so we could talk this out with him 2 of which were at a time we selected and 1 where he selected the time. He no showed for all 3. We kicked him out and then he began trashing us fully like the phony he was. He's no different than Fred if were talking about trying to steal the spotlight.
 
FunnY said:
Haven't seen you in a long while. I just think how Fred treated disagreeing like how he got mad that someone murdered a family member. Opinion is an opinion. Words are just plain words to just skim through by.

Likewise in the leaks, has Fred ever go through someone's family rather than someone's ex?
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lol long time no see FunnY, you are right he makes a mountain out of a piece paper and cant take anything this might be why certain people who go away from the SOK to like DSP in hindsight. I dont get the question you are asking me.
 
THEKINGOFDIVASVLOGS said:
Yes i am not kidding you on this that was the first sign i knew this was bad and i had to leave. It was strange because we had one room and then suddenly because a user actually dare called Fred out and started drama they said "well lets make another room for vetting", then there is one room for vetting and then another room for the REAL members, and another for a podcast. Then Che reveals a 4th room which some people were suspecting Fred did because he can not trust anyone even those he says he trusts. The guy is crazy because its one of those things, if someone spies on you and leaks something you just kick them out and leave it be, but if you keep making more chatrooms on top of chatrooms then you just have lost your mind completely even i was starting to believe i entered the twilight zone and i could not believe what happened. Its weird how i asked about this and said "isent this a bit strange" nobody said anything and not one questioned how silly it was.
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Would you say Fred is essentially a cult leader?
If so, how does he get people to follow him undyingly like this? I understand that he has surface-level charisma, but there are still some people defending him.
Help us understand, if you can.
 
diva i hope you come back on youtube, you made some good videos,

As for Fred it would be funny if he just came out and did the dsp "thank you worthless losers for the views" but lets face fred is in deep shit and is already close to go nuclear if jim or anyone around them lines sees it the sok can never recover
 
SirJamesDTech said:
Would you say Fred is essentially a cult leader?
If so, how does he get people to follow him undyingly like this? I understand that he has surface-level charisma, but there are still some people defending him.
Help us understand, if you can.
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They want to be acknowledge by the leader/popular guy. People (like Fayt on twitter) will blindly defend him the same way DSP's fanboy defends him. Fred is basically a Faux-DSP. It's pure pottery
 
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