Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

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A shame we get a flood of stupid penalties though.
I can't tell if the penalties were a result of Derek Warwick being a shit chief steward as well as a shit F1 driver or if he had to hand out all those dumb penalties to avoid being chewed out by Masi. Either way, it was noticeable enough to detract from the race.

Max is a machine. Lando drove like a future WDC. Sainz and Leclerc did a great job, but I think Danny Ric did better. To go from 13th to 7th is a solid effort (it was a tossup between Lando and Danny for Driver Of The Day in my eyes). A great day out for McLaren.

ngl I was gutted when Alonso passed George. He was giving it all he could, but I guess he could only fight for so long against a more experienced driver in a better car.

Bottas is still a company man (for now).

Probably one of the worse races this season, even without Hambone on the podium. Thanks for cucking the 2021 Austrian Grand Prix for us, FIA stooges.
 
After seeing the results I wonder if Aston Martin has actually hired the Ferrari strategy crew. I mean how can they fall so far behind? Meanwhile Ferrari made their car less tyre hungry and it worked perfectly.

Oh and for the teams. Let me give you a rundown which current team was in the past

Tyrell -> BAR -> Honda -> Brawn GP -> Mercedes
Jordan -> Midland -> Spyker -> Force India -> Aston Martin
Toleman -> Benetton -> Renault -> Lotus -> Renault -> Alpine
Minardi -> Toro Rosso -> Alpha Tauri
Sauber -> BMW -> Sauber -> Alfa Romeo
Stewart -> Jaguar -> Red Bull

Fascinating stuff
 
After seeing the results I wonder if Aston Martin has actually hired the Ferrari strategy crew. I mean how can they fall so far behind? Meanwhile Ferrari made their car less tyre hungry and it worked perfectly.
My guess is that the AM struggles with corners that demand high downforce to retain speed and momentum.
They did well in Monaco, which is a rather slow track where downforce isn't as much of a deciding factor to do well and they did absolutely fantastic in Baku, which is all slow corners and long straights.

France and Austria just might not work out well for their car, since the new aero-rules gimp low-rake cars and their engine isn't as powerful as Mercedes to make up for it.
In that regard, I really wonder why they didn't switch to high-rake, the only reasons not to pick up high rake would be that they didn't see this coming as that big of an issue for low-rake cars or they hope to gather more experience for next season, when the cars use ground effects similar to (but not quite like) the low-rake cars.

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Or how about professional drivers stop trying to go down the outside of another car when the racing line dictates that gap is going to be a wedge.
Reddit is dumber than advertised, jfc.

drivers and fans have got spoiled by tarmac runoffs. As ballsy and exhilarating as they are, round the outside moves like Perez's or Leclerc's should be seen as inherently risky.
I never thought about it, I guess drivers indeed are too used to tarmac runoffs, hence these weird maneuvers. I mean, when they work, it's great, but the overtaking car tries to pass by using a trajectory that puts it in the same line as the other car and the only way for the inside car to avoid a crash is to slow down (allowing for a tighter turn) and just not fight back at all. And that's bullshit.

A lot of young drivers, such as Kvyat, Verstappen and Leclerc had this habit of divebombing down the inside in a turn, which meant they overshot the apex, could barely make the turn themselves and since they need every inch of tarmac to turn their car around, the outside car has no other choice but to slow down even more and go straight until the divebombing car has made its turn and cleared the path.

Both these maneuvers are questionable, since they are operating under the assumption that the overtaking driver is either getting his will or there's going to be an incident. The only difference: When going around the outside in a fast corner, it's the overtaking car being pushed off the track, whereas with the divebomb on the inside, the outside car is either forced to give in or crash both cars.
 
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COVID-19 reportedly kills 2021 Australian F1 Grand Prix​

Australia will miss out on hosting a Formula 1 race for the second year running, with COVID-19-related travel restrictions to blame.

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The Australian Formula 1 Grand Prix has reportedly been cancelled for the second year running.

SpeedCafe and 7News report the Grand Prix originally scheduled for November 2021 will not go ahead due to Victoria’s strict quarantine requirements for international arrivals.

The MotoGP event scheduled for October at Philip Island has also reportedly been cancelled.

Both Formula 1 and MotoGP reportedly were pushing to keep drivers, team, and officials in a ‘bubble’ during the race weekend to avoid the two-week quarantine requirement.

The Formula 1 Grand Prix is usually held in March, but was this year postponed until November to allow more time for Australia’s international travel restrictions to ease.

With Australia’s slow vaccine rollout, however, it’s not clear when that will happen.

Victorian Health Minister, Martin Pakula, and Australian Grand Prix Corporation CEO, Andrew Westacott, are scheduled to speak to the media at 3pm today.

The Grand Prix was one of the first major public events to be cancelled at the beginning of the pandemic in March 2020.

Patrons were lined up outside the gates when they were told the race weekend would no longer go ahead.
 
the rest of the season should be cancelled and just sign up as many USA tracks as possible. COTA, Indy, leguna seca, maybe some oval road courses. Because apparently every country in the world except USA has shit vaccine rollout.
I'm sure Liberty would if they could. How many FIA Grade 1 tracks are there in the USA?
 
the rest of the season should be cancelled and just sign up as many USA tracks as possible. COTA, Indy, leguna seca, maybe some oval road courses. Because apparently every country in the world except USA has shit vaccine rollout.

I'm sure Liberty would if they could. How many FIA Grade 1 tracks are there in the USA?
Circuit of the Americas (Austin, as listed) and the Indy GP track are the only Grade 1 tracks in the USA per official FIA document attached.
There are some tracks which would potentially be eligible for Grade 1 outside of the USA which just simply don't bother spending the money - I point to Algarve in Portugal which was Grade 1T for the longest time due to having no need of the expense of getting Grade 1 until last year.
 

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I'm sure Liberty would if they could. How many FIA Grade 1 tracks are there in the USA?
Just build a couple on some parking lots. They did that in Miami, can't be that hard. . .

Oh god.

OH GOD.

Just imagine a racetrack like that in some Detroit Ghetto. Imagine Hamilton trying to appeal to some baggy-pant wearing thug and getting his prissy ass kicked and robbed :story:

Nah. Let's reanimate Hockenheim and the Nürburgring. F1 cars on the Norschleife. Make it happen!
 
Just build a couple on some parking lots. They did that in Miami, can't be that hard. . .
There was that one track built in the parking lot of the Caesars Palace casino in Las Vegas. The best thing people said about it was that it was a glorified kart track, and it was the season finale for two consecutive years.

Not one to give up, they also made a track in Dallas that passed by the Cotton Bowl stadium and the Fair Park. Only lasted one year because it was hot as fuck (Nigel Mansell famously fainted after trying to push his car) and the tarmac was peeling off.

They could always try to run in Long Beach again. Or in that one New Jersey track they were touting about until some time ago.
 
bit of a random shower thought, but in my opinion James Allen will always be the best f1 commentator. With all due respect to Murray Walker who is the true OG, James Allen has that low growly voice that is so intimidating and authoritative, it really captures the mood of formula one. But I think I like the way that the presentation was produced many years ago, perhaps the way that the commentary somehow has a low pass filter or is a lower sample-rate or something. i just hate the way crofty sounds when he starts shouting during an incident-free first lap


James Allen, along with things like the small elegant f1 cars of the 90s and 00s compared to today's fucking SUV cars, the yellow-square graphics, crazy refueling strategies and naturally-aspirated engines, not calling a safety car every time someone spun off the track, Kimi Raikkonnen in the Ferarri, are the things that I look back on with nostalgia. And even if liberty media also realized these things were cool, realistically there is no way any of these things are coming back. It's not like liberty can say "ok, we are gonna remove the halo and make the cars shorter, narrower, and overall smaller, and are removing DRS. And also, we are adding back nurburgring, hockenheim, malaysia, korea, and are ditching saudi arabia, abu dhabi"
 
I've said it before but every time Brundel is off I dread his retirement. Crofty and Di Resta are a terrible commentary "team". They're there wondering how something is the way it is while actual fans watching a single video feed know exactly how and the fact it changed about 3 laps ago while you were talking some utter bollocks.
 
Crofty and Di Resta are a terrible commentary "team". They're there wondering how something is the way it is while actual fans watching a single video feed know exactly how and the fact it changed about 3 laps ago while you were talking some utter bollocks.
I think sky sports should give Chandhok a try in the commentary booth with Crofty during the race, instead of Di Resta. He seems to have a lot of insight when he does the onboard replays.

I agree tho that both Chandhok and Diresta pale in comparison to Brundle. He is truly goated, even in comparison to the color commentators that came before him, who in my opinion were never really that informative. (and I'm glad Martin is back as the color commentator. Apparently he was the play by play commentator around 2011. I watched the full race replays on the f1 channel and came to the conclusion he wasn't very good in that role.)
 
the rest of the season should be cancelled and just sign up as many USA tracks as possible. COTA, Indy, leguna seca, maybe some oval road courses. Because apparently every country in the world except USA has shit vaccine rollout.
They could do the Daytona Road Course, Watkins Glen, Sonoma, Road America or if they want to embrace the memes, do a race at Talladega or tackle the full Brickyard oval.

Edit: Indycar is doing a street race at Nashville next month, so that'll be fun to see.
 
I've said it before but every time Brundel is off I dread his retirement. Crofty and Di Resta are a terrible commentary "team". They're there wondering how something is the way it is while actual fans watching a single video feed know exactly how and the fact it changed about 3 laps ago while you were talking some utter bollocks.
Yeeting Crofty would be a good start. He adds nothing to the commentary other than hysterics and retarded hot takes.

It's times like this that I wish I could find a live F1 feed in French or German. Whilst I wouldn't understand most of it, it'd probably still make more sense that the shit Crofty comes out with.
 
Crofty came as a welcome relief after Jonathan Legard; go and watch some races from 2009/2010. He was absolutely dreadful.

Di Resta is monotone during his commentary, but Karun 'What's interesting' Chandok? Ant Davidson would be far better. (I nearly said head and shoulders above the pair of them, but I realised who I was talking about).
 
Crofty came as a welcome relief after Jonathan Legard; go and watch some races from 2009/2010. He was absolutely dreadful.

Di Resta is monotone during his commentary, but Karun 'What's interesting' Chandok? Ant Davidson would be far better. (I nearly said head and shoulders above the pair of them, but I realised who I was talking about).
ngl I lost interest in F1 for a good decade or so, which is around the Legard era. TBH nobody will ever compare to Murray Walker/James Hunt, the absolute GOATs of F1 commentary.
 
Walker and Brundle were also gold. Just this little nugget alone is gold

https://youtube.com/watch?v=e-7y1_cju4c:90
idk what happened in the last few years that the commentators have to try to pepper up f1 and the drivers to give this false facade. back then they could speak more frankly, I remember hearing murray walker explaining in detail on the official f1 broadcast about pay-drivers. Nowadays we have a modern day rosset and crofty and the boys have to play around and be nice and all
 
Never forget James Hunt just being out of fucks to give and just dishing out verbal bitchslaps left and right.

Yeeting Crofty would be a good start. He adds nothing to the commentary other than hysterics and retarded hot takes.

It's times like this that I wish I could find a live F1 feed in French or German. Whilst I wouldn't understand most of it, it'd probably still make more sense that the shit Crofty comes out with.
Try to watch the Swiss commentary on Schweiz 2. IMHO, the guy (Stäuble, I think he's called) is a really likeable fellow, he doesn't bullshit around with the Hamilton-buttkissing and he has some good insights and comments.
 
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