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I'm not familar with US tracks, so I had to look it up.
That corner is simply insane and just imagining a bunch of F1 cars screaming down that hill gives me goosebumps.

Here's an onboard of the 2003 Ferrari setting a new record for fastest lap during a test:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=w7BR0gwt46E:53
That drop into the corkscrew is just surreal.

2nd Edit: Geez. Crashes in that corner are terrible. If that racetrack would host an F1 race, I think some changes would be needed.
Yeah unfortunately that corner and the width of the grid are both incapable of meeting FIA rules for F1 tracks. The grid is fixable but you can't mess with that corner. That plus it's like 2 hours from the nearest major airport and doesn't have the paddock space for the full F1.

Plus the runoffs/fences might want looking at.

 
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Yeah unfortunately that corner and the width of the grid are both incapable of meeting FIA rules for F1 tracks. The grid is fixable but you can't mess with that corner. That plus it's like 2 hours from the nearest major airport and doesn't have the paddock space for the full F1 circus.
Quite a shame, the racetrack has an interesting layout and that corkscrew is a very unique feature. I think it wouldn't be impossible to make the track FIA compliant, but you'd have to change so much about the runoff area, it would not be worth it... and even if it was, you'd still lack the infrastructure that F1 demands.

Quite a shame, but on the other hand, that also makes it a bit more special, if it's a racetrack that is used a bit more sparingly. It's just disheartening to think that there's a racetrack like this out there... and we get Socchi every year instead. (:_(
 
Adding to the US tracks conversation which was being had on Tuesday, Miami Gardens commissioners pass updated resolution to bring F1 to Hard Rock Stadium | Archive

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Residents spent Wednesday night outside of city hall to show their opposition to the event.

They aimed their anger and frustration at Miami Gardens’ leaders after many were blindsided by the commission, who, they said, initially voted not to bringing the sport to the venue, but that changed with a new resolution.

“Our city council has flip-flopped on us, and it makes us very angry,” resident Brenda Martin Providence said.

“They was telling the residents, the voters, to trust in them, believe in them, hold us accountable,” resident Sharon Frazer Stephens said. “That was one of their main words: hold us accountable, so a promise made was a promise not kept.”

During the meeting, commissioners listened to nearly two hours of public comments from residents who shared their thoughts.

“We didn’t come here to fight this fight again. We came to implore you to do what we pay you to do, and that’s represent us.”

The new resolution promises to implement noise mitigation barriers as well as monitor air quality.

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Residents said all that means nothing.

“The money that it brings to them, it doesn’t bring to us,” Providence said. “We still have the same issues.”

The resolution states no racing will occur before 2:30 p.m. on school days and/or after sunset.

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So you lot are going to get the beloved street circuits for F1 cars, in a place with an unpleasantly high crime rate, in a city/area which typically doesn't have a good turn out to sporting events regardless of if it's a car or a ball.

To the point on Grade 1-ing tracks, I think the best candidate for that to be done is Road America (Here's a full IMSA race there, especially for @RomanesEuntDomus's benefit since you have said you're unfamiliar with American tracks, and the NASCAR Xfinity Series [F2 equivalent] because why not) since it's already pretty close in regards to its standards (I make no attempt to guess as to how racing will or won't be).

What makes American 'road courses' different to the rest of the world, is they aren't owned fully/in-part by the regional sanctioning body (ASN, for the UK that's Motorsports UK [Formerly MSA], Germany is ADAC) like circuits elsewhere are - if you look at the branding of pretty-much-all the top end British tracks, Brands Hatch, Oulton Park, Donnington, Snetterton, they all have the same red-chequered branding (Image below) as a result of being part owned/supported by Motorsports UK, whereas in the US it's pretty much only ovals which experience that ownership, and within that almost all cases of it are NASCAR owning the track (Again, image below) where they only care to own circuits where their sanctioned series are going to race at for more profit (hard to judge them, really, capitalism is neat).

With this independence on the road courses part, you get more cases of needing to think financially rather than practically and so a lot of the tracks put more importance on regional racing than their international profile, so why bother making it Grade 1 unless you are already in the final stages of an agreement with F1 to have a race there - if even that early.

It is this independence equally which lead to CotA being built, just make another self-concerned circuit that can build itself anew to whatever standards it wants/can and then keep it up from there - meanwhile other circuits around the states are doing the same thing and see themselves better off running with a lower standard of facility for better/more racing to be accessible and therefore more financially sound.

Compare CotA which was one of the first race tracks in the world to announce a load of layoffs with COVID, because of the expense of keeping itself at Grade 1 against somewhere like a Virginia International Raceway (again for reference, IMSA race), or Barber Motorsports Park (MotoAmerica race) which can continue to run their small local club races with eight or nine people having a 'run-what-you-brung' on a Friday evening after work where the only maintenance cost is making sure the track isn't completely falling apart, and the barriers are all straight.


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Edit: Images didn't embed from link, so just uploaded proper - should really have done that to start.
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Watched the Imola practices during breakfast this morning and of course, Mazepin had two more spins. But Leclerc and Sainz looked fairly promising. I'm praying that Ferrari will be smart and not piss those two off before they can develop a title contending car.
 
Watched the Imola practices during breakfast this morning and of course, Mazepin had two more spins. But Leclerc and Sainz looked fairly promising. I'm praying that Ferrari will be smart and not piss those two off before they can develop a title contending car.
It's Ferrari, they will take whatever they can from Sainz and Leclerc and then kick them out like mangy dogs at the end.
 
What makes American 'road courses' different to the rest of the world, is they aren't owned fully/in-part by the regional sanctioning body (ASN, for the UK that's Motorsports UK [Formerly MSA], Germany is ADAC) like circuits elsewhere are - if you look at the branding of pretty-much-all the top end British tracks, Brands Hatch, Oulton Park, Donnington, Snetterton, they all have the same red-chequered branding (Image below) as a result of being part owned/supported by Motorsports UK
The red chequer branding is from Jonathan Palmer's ( Jolyon's dad) MotorSport Vision company. I'm not aware of any part ownership with Motorsport UK.
 
MSV also owns Brands Hatch, I think it'd be interesting to see how the current machines would do there, considering it's a former F1 track.
 
Were the f1 commentators talking about senna in every session when formula 1 raced at imola in 2000-2006? It’s gotten really old since we raced there last year and this weekend.
 
TIL Rubens Barrichello was in talks to join McLaren in 1995 to be Mika Hakkinen's teammate for that season. Apparently, the deal fell through, and as a last ditch effort, they went after Nigel Mansell, who didn't last long due to being at Ron Dennis' throat, and got fired after pulling out of the Spanish Grand Prix.
I wonder how things would have gone for him if he joined McLaren long-term.
 
Not that I remember but I was just a wee lad at the time.

Have they mentioned Ratzenberger?
Unfortunately, no one really ever mentions him. Most often, he's mentioned in passing when someone talks about Senna's death. I really feel sorry for the guy. Every death is equally tragic, but his was overshadowed by Senna's death, he isn't mourned the way he deserves.

It's also utterly shameful that his death was announced off-track despite him clearly being killed before his car even came to a halt, just so that the race could go forward as planned.
Barrichelo nearly dies on friday. Ratzenberger dies on saturday. Senna dies on sunday. How much more shit has to go down to bail on a race? If I was superstitious, I'd say that someone was trying to give the guys in charge of the GP a certain hint and they just refused to take it until it was too late.
 
So, qualifying begins. Let's see how this one goes. There has been talk of possible rain tomorrow, at least there was yesterday. Let's hope for a good session!

Here is the Acestream ID that I am currently watching:
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Tsunoda has binned his car. The back end is completely fucked and Q1 has been stopped. He'll be starting from the back of the grid tomorrow, assuming that Alpha Tauri's pit crew can rebuild it in time.
 
I enjoyed that qualifying even though Hambone fluked into pole again. Good mixup, pretty tight competition. If it stays dry it will be all about race pace. If it rains that will really make it spicy. Even if overcast and track temps are cold, that could make things interesting too. Hoping for a good one tomorrow, sucks passing is tough on this circuit though.
 
Perez starting in the front row on softs could jump ahead of Hamilton with off the line tyre advantage and its difficult to overtake here, then Red Bull control the race and basically undercut Hamilton as will with Vestappen. Especially with Bottas being sat so far back not being able to back up Hamilton and perez being the king of making tyres last. Pity Norris' lap was deleted that was fast and would have thrown a car that was out of place into the mix.
 
the roles switched, red bull has got the two drivers in the front and bottas is off in 8th, lets see if red bull can cover their bases like mercedes would do with hamilton and bottas against verstappen.
 
Tsunoda has binned his car. The back end is completely fucked and Q1 has been stopped. He'll be starting from the back of the grid tomorrow, assuming that Alpha Tauri's pit crew can rebuild it in time.
Even though I've watched F1 one way or the other for literal decades, I never gave much thought about how much of a car like in this case Tsunoda's was recoverable. When it's just a torn off spoiler, you can slap on a new one, sure, but how much of a car do they reuse after a crash?

Does anyone have a video or graphic on that?
 
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