Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

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Isn't this one of the things the cost cap was meant to stop? I don't know what is hastening the demise of F1 more quickly, bought seats or boring AF Tilke tracks.
 
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I had to roll a big joint! Wow, keep it like this please!
 
Well, the start offered some really nice moments, Sainz being able to overtake both Mercs was rad and Raikkönen had an amazing start, too bad it shuffled back into more familiar patterns soon later.
Despite that, when you ignore the Mercs, it was a pretty good race with neat overtaking here and there. A shame really, the most interesting stuff is what happens around positions 5-12.

Also, on a sidenote, LeClerc had a good race, but Albon is really off the mark ... and Stroll... my god. Has this guy had a worse race than this? He's not a good driver, but this race was pretty terrible, even for him.
 
Odessa Norwood said:
Isn't this one of the things the cost cap was meant to stop? I don't know what is hastening the demise of F1 more quickly, bought seats or boring AF Tilke tracks.
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Bought seats have always been in F1 and it's unlikely that a cost-cap will affect it because it's still a hundred million dollar operation that requires every penny to be used. What would kill F1 is the overall predictability of results, there being very few ways for a casual fan to follow the sport live and above all else, economic shifts making this far too unreasonable for the non-tobacco/alcohol/oil/energy drink companies of the world to fund.
 
Gasly more or less confirmed for Alpha Tauri.

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What a disservice to such a great performance this year. Gasly should keep his head down, keep on delivering whenever he can next year and when the time comes, apply to a different Team altogether to be the number one in a Team that is actually competetive. He was teamed up with Max Verstappen and failed to keep up with him, I get that, but this essentially means that Gasly won't progress as long as RB clings to Verstappen and Albon and he should not waste away in AT, hoping for some mishap that puts him back into the cockpit.

I guess RB most likely doesn't want to flip-flop with their drivers, otherwise, no one ever settles into that seat... but it's genuinely a shame this means Gasly gets the short end of the stick, he's doing so well and it feels like he's not going to get rewarded for it by RB.
 
From my end re: Gasly. I don't want to see him in the RB simply because I think a repeat of his first time around will occur again. If Max wasn't in the RB, then I'd say yeah put Gasly in there now. But Max is turning into a teammate killer, whether he is just that next level better than 99% of everyone else, or the aura that he gives off that he is in the upper echelons of racing drivers puts the teammates on the back foot mentally right away and its all over before they even get on track.

After what he did this year, I want to see Gasly thrive and stay in the sport so while getting in the RB might give him a chance of top 5s on a regular basis, I don't think he will be the magical 0.3s adrift of Max that pundits seem to say would be acceptable deficit, and he won't be winning races and would be lucky to get a podium. I can see him finishing 4th-6th most races, which albeit is better than Albon.

I think he needs to stay with AT and, on assumption Ocon is shit and doesn't do well in 2021, get the Renault drive for '22. That's what I hope happens for Pierre.

Besides that, I am hoping RB takes Hulk. Perez would be next but I want to see Nico and Max. I expect he'd get a podium finally and maybe even a win. I wonder if Max is lobbying for Nico at all? They apparently are good friends off track.

Also, I don't know if any of you saw it a couple races ago when Paul Di Resta mentioned something about Gasly pissed off people in RB and that's why he won't be brought back. Rosberg started pressing Paul and you could tell when Paul told Nico to go ask himself that Paul knew the full story and he looked uncomfortable as hell when Nico kept pestering him.
 
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Red Bull are pretty open about the fact their car is difficult to drive but in a way that suits Max. That causes a double problem of max being very good and the car being built for him for other drivers.

Red Bull have said a few times that Gasly and Albon perform similarly in the Red Bull when they compare all their data, take that with a pinch of salt but if so it would make sense them not jumping to switch them again.
 

Pretty interesting stuff here on what Haas has to struggle with. The aerodynamic balance shifts depending on how hot the engine is, leading to instability.
The video also mentions that the rear is based on Ferrari technology, so maybe this affects them too.
 
You guys think Lewis will be able to keep his performance up while managing that extreme e team?
 
Remember when rivals used to call eachother every name under the sun and even have the occasional punch up? Well now you can't even be critical or underwhelmed anymore, you can't criticise someone who crashes takes other drivers off regularly or not be gushing over Hamilton and offering to suck his dick or else. Could you imagine how the "he thinks he can't die" Prost interview would have gone these days? Twitter would have been branding it a death threat.

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On the plus side William's have confirmed Russell will driver for them next season.

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Just been watching practice. Commentators saying shit like: "qualifying could be anyone's" and "we don't know what's going to happen in qualifying", I can hazard a guess. Stop with the pretence that the top 3 is somehow a competitive game, we are not retards. I get that it has become a boring drugery for the front in both qualifying and the race and that you guys have to try and sell the sport but trying to pretend it isn't a foregone conclusion (barring any strange events) is just disingenuous. Concentrate on the McLaren/Racing Point/Renault battle, there is interest and a sense of not knowing what will happen there at least, plus usually some overtaking and strategy that effects the race too.
 
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Just been watching practice. Commentators saying shit like: "qualifying could be anyone's" and "we don't know what's going to happen in qualifying", I can hazard a guess. Stop with the pretence that the top 3 is somehow a competitive game, we are not retards. I get that it has become a boring drugery for the front in both qualifying and the race and that you guys have to try and sell the sport but trying to pretend it isn't a foregone conclusion (barring any strange events) is just disingenuous. Concentrate on the McLaren/Racing Point/Renault battle, there is interest and a sense of not knowing what will happen there at least, plus usually some overtaking and strategy that effects the race too.
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Yeah. It'll be interesting to see if LeClerc can get up to 4th position on the grid again or if it was a one off, it'll be interesting how Gasly and Albon do, the fights for midfield positions often hinge on very small margins, where even just a .1s improvement will make you move up a couple places at a time. The sport is so much more than just watching Mercs run circles around their competition, while pretending their dominance is anything but uncontested.

The battle for the front rows is pretty much set in stone before even the first timed lap has been recorded, don't waste time on the easily answered question of "who's going to go on pole?". The media would do well to focus on other stuff. I mean, it might not be as glorious as winning a race, but around Positions 6-12, you get fierce battles over every position and a few points, sometimes even just getting one point, is a huge accomplishment for some drivers. Forgot when it was, but I remember last season, there was a race where the people in front of the field had the most boring race without any overtaking, while we got wheel-to-wheel knifefights between midfield drivers at every corner. It hurts the sport to pretend it's always about the top, give some love to the rest of the field and show their accomplishments as well.

Sainz leading a few laps in a McLaren and Kimi shooting past 10 cars in one lap in an Alfa Romeo was more interesting than watching Lewis doing laps in solitude for the upteenth time. Someone squeezing a 10th place out of a Haas or Alfa Romeo is a bigger accomplishment than Hamilton and Bottas getting the podium for the dozenth time thanks to their stupidly overpowered cars.
No disrespect, both are very good drivers, but there is barely anyone that can challenge them.
 
They need to come up with something different to do with these track limits. These constant deletions and the penalties last race just feel off. Someone sets a time then you wait until the end of the session to see if it ends up counting, it takes the excitement out of the last few minutes as they cross the line. I say gravel traps or some other sort of high friction area to force them to stay on the track or lose time because everything else is just messing with the timing screen/race.
 
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They need to come up with something different to do with these track limits. These constant deletions and the penalties last race just feel off. Someone sets a time then you wait until the end of the session to see if it ends up counting, it takes the excitement out of the last few minutes as they cross the line. I say gravel traps or some other sort of high friction area to force them to stay on the track or lose time because everything else is just messing with the timing screen/race.
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Gravel pits, a thin strip of slippery astroturf or maybe some sort of plastic cone... anything, but something as arbitrary as "go past this line and you get a punishment".
I do understand that these track limits do have their advantages, especially when it comes to track safety, but it feels so artificial.
 
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