Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

[Stoneheart]

Lewis leaving F1 this season... not seeing that happening honestly, but I would welcome it, too.

He will look like the joke he is when he changes cars...

I didn't want to sound too biased, so I went with Senna, who I think is seen as equal to or even above Schumacher's level, even though Schumacher has twice as many victories and titles.

MSc had much harder Seasons.

 

[Coccxys]

I'm going with this just being some bullshit negotiation tactic to get whatever ridiculous demands he's making through. I agree I wouldn't be surprised if he was demanding an entirely black pit crew or some bullshit. Probably wants Merc to send some huge chunk of money to BLM or some other grifting race baiting organisation. It would be nice if he put his money where his mouth is with his vegan climate whining and fucked off to the e-extreme/formula E series.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Watch this video at 35s:

"We're ready for yOuUu", that made me crack up. Dude sounds exactly like I would expect someone to sound who has to be nice to the boss' son who's doing a poor job.

That being said, Stroll did have a pretty decent start. He accelerated quickly, kept his cool when he he was pinched from both sides and the accident, that cost him his front wing was really just bad luck.
Overall, decent show from this guy, at least in this tiny snippet.

Also, the very next scene, Grosjean is such a joke. Bitching and whining, while he makes a poor attempt to squeeze past Latifi and when he fails, he mopes like a pouty child.

 

[Balr0g]

Stroll is usually a good starter. I think in 2019 he was the driver who gained the most positions right after the start. The problem is that he isn't good dogfighter with other drivers (as demonstrated in Portimao). Maybe next year he can gain some experience with working with Vettel though I get the feeling that Vettel might go from bad to not really an improvement given the fact that the Racing Point can't overtake in close battles (the old Mercedes woe).

And yeah I don't know what is going on with Hamilton. A driver as ambitious as him won't leave when he has the best car in the field and a team that works for him. I mean his 8th title is up for grabs in 2021. Who would throw that way. Yeah he has no real competition but still. Unless he feels no longer welcome at Mercedes. Or he wants to fight racism outside of the sport (oh dear oh dear)

 

[WhiskeyZuluLima]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mVa_SvmYXd8

I may be being reetarded, but have they sped up the video of all of those onboards - fairly sure the cars weren't that fast on Sunday

 

[The quiet boi]

F1 announced the Saudi race. Hoes Reddit mad.

 

[LiveFromNS]

Another neat "tribute" video I just came across on the glory era of F1. Just watching it through now myself, but 2:33 to 2:46 or so, just fucking LOL!

 

[Coccxys]

Some changes to F2 and F3 for next year to save money.



Saudi is only getting a race because a couple of other gulf states have one and the crown prince got jealous. An F1 race has become just another tick box along side a football team, an airline and a shit ton of slaves. Unfortunately this is going to be another soules track with nothing going for it that takes the place of a proper venue.

 

[LiveFromNS]

Some changes to F2 and F3 for next year to save money.

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Saudi is only getting a race because a couple of other gulf states have one and the crown prince got jealous. An F1 race has become just another tick box along side a football team, an airline and a shit ton of slaves. Unfortunately this is going to be another soules track with nothing going for it that takes the place of a proper venue.

Yeah, I am kind of bummed over the changes a little as I loved seeing all 3 series on a race weekend. Nothing better than watching a good 6 hours a day of Formula racing coverage over the weekend including 5 actual races! But I am happy they are having 3 races per weekend, so that's good. Lose 1 race a weekend isn't too bad I suppose.

As for Saudi, I thought I saw someone post an outline of what the layout would be and it seemed like shit. I went looking for it but cant find it now. But I just had a toke so not too focused right at the moment. If I come across it again when I am less high I will post it later. However, while looking I found another related image. I kind of like this layout:

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

This dummy 2021 car does have some slick lines, I like it. And it produces a lot less turbulence, allowing drivers to get up much closer to the one in front without losing half their downforce... Now, if this turns out as neat as it sounds, that might be a huge step forward. At the moment, you lose up to 50% of your downforce when you follow too closely, with this new design, it's 5-10% - enough to profit from slipstream, but still allowing you to go quick around corners. I have high hopes for the new designs (and maybe some teams find some new and exciting ways to exploit these rules for some shenanigans).

Yeah, I am kind of bummed over the changes a little as I loved seeing all 3 series on a race weekend. Nothing better than watching a good 6 hours a day of Formula racing coverage over the weekend including 5 actual races! But I am happy they are having 3 races per weekend, so that's good. Lose 1 race a weekend isn't too bad I suppose.

As for Saudi, I thought I saw someone post an outline of what the layout would be and it seemed like shit. I went looking for it but cant find it now. But I just had a toke so not too focused right at the moment. If I come across it again when I am less high I will post it later. However, while looking I found another related image. I kind of like this layout:
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Why yes, let's get another modern Tilke- style racetrack instead of going back to Mugello or the Nürburgring. Wonder what Hamilton will have to say about racing there. Frankly, I would respect him immensely, if he (or anyone else for that matter) refused to do a propper race there. Don't even have to be blunt about it, if that would conflict with contractual obligations. That Saudi sand is really nasty and would do a number on any engine, forcing the driver to retire 5 laps into the race, you know. Crazy coincidence it happened to half the drivers in in just a few laps, know what I'm saying...

 

[New Fag]

Why yes, let's get another modern Tilke- style racetrack

It's a street circuit for the first 2 years so tilkery would be at a minimum then it moves to an actual 'circuit'

Artist redition. Final layout pending. Supossedly from the stadium you can see 6km of racetrack.

https://archive.vn/7bVYF

Wonder what Hamilton will have to say about racing there.

It's all pretty much PR responses

Hamilton: “I don’t really know enough about that to particularly comment. I’d like to know more about it, I honestly don’t know enough about the human rights issue that’s happening in Saudi Arabia. I have some friends that go there that tell me that it’s a stunning place. But I think it’s important before I really comment that I know exactly what the issue is. I do think Nelson Mandela many years ago said that sport has the power to change the world for the better. I think we’ve already seen the positive shift that we as a sport this year have committed to and started to push in direction of supporting human rights and equality and inclusivity. I think it’s a showing, as a lot of other sports have showed, that it’s a powerful platform to initiate change. The current fact is we go to all these countries and I personally don’t know, whilst it’s a great event, we don’t leave a long lasting effect on those places. The question is can we. Can we be a part of bringing attention to certain issues and pushing for change.”

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I would respect him immensely, if he (or anyone else for that matter) refused to do a propper race there. Don't even have to be blunt about it, if that would conflict with contractual obligations.

Same here, they could always pull a Indy 2005 but I doubt it, they're supposedly signed up for 10 years.

This dummy 2021 car does have some slick lines, I like it. And it produces a lot less turbulence, allowing drivers to get up much closer to the one in front without losing half their downforce... Now, if this turns out as neat as it sounds, that might be a huge step forward. At the moment, you lose up to 50% of your downforce when you follow too closely, with this new design, it's 5-10% - enough to profit from slipstream, but still allowing you to go quick around corners. I have high hopes for the new designs (and maybe some teams find some new and exciting ways to exploit these rules for some shenanigans).

Shame It's been pushed back to 2022 they look nice, can't wait to see the new penis nose aero solution.

 

[Coccxys]

Ah right so Hamilton doesn't know enough about human right abuses in Saudi to say anything but he knows that America (and probably all of western Europe) are horrible racists who oppress the blacks right? He already races quite happily in countries that allow "indebted servitude" and full on slavery but it's ok because he doesn't know enough about it. I suppose it's the attitude we expect from slactivists.

Yeah, I am kind of bummed over the changes a little as I loved seeing all 3 series on a race weekend. Nothing better than watching a good 6 hours a day of Formula racing coverage over the weekend including 5 actual races! But I am happy they are having 3 races per weekend, so that's good. Lose 1 race a weekend isn't too bad I suppose.

It will be interesting to see how they arrange the 3 races. The current feature and sprint race per weekend works for me. Does it mean an extra sprint race or something else? Either way it upsets the balance between feature and sprint races.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Ah right so Hamilton doesn't know enough about human right abuses in Saudi to say anything but he knows that America (and probably all of weather Europe) are horrible racists who oppress the blacks right? He already races quite happily in countries that allow "indebted servitude" and full on slavery but it's ok because he doesn't know enough about it. I suppose it's the attitude we expect from slactivists.

Well, "Ignorance is Strength", you know.

Hamilton can race in Saudi Arabia in blissfull ignorance, something he cultivated at great efforts, would be a shame if you'd have to lose your street-cred as a progressive by not addressing pressing issues that you usually blabber on whenever a camera is pointed your way. Convenient, to be able to say that you don't know enough to make a statement, so you don't look like a hypocrite but rather like you respect the other culture, by not jumping to conclusions - even if you obtain that by essentially stepping over bodies.
Hamilton will happily display a shirt saying "Justice for Breonna", but he'll never lose a single moment of sleep over the countless millions of people, who die without anyone ever hearing their name, that have sufferend and will continue to suffer under an anachronistic regime, that treats anyone who's not an oil-billionaire worse than cattle.

 

[LiveFromNS]

The media need to, which they won't, keep on Lewis about this. I mean he knows how to use Google I am sure so an hour or two of research some evening while some high class escort is sucking his cock is easily doable. This will serve to educate and inform him of the situation in SA so next race they can ask him what he thinks since he previously indicated that he "would like to know more about it."

If I want to know something, I research the topic so I can become aware, adopt a position and not talk out of my ass when someone asks me for my opinion. Surely Lewis can do same? Or maybe have his white slave girl who runs around after him while he operates an electric scooter around the paddock can do it for him. She probably also wipes his ass after he takes a shit so I doubt she'd have an issue doing some research about the country. Again, she wouldn't have much choice being a slave and all.

It will be interesting to see how they arrange the 3 races. The current feature and sprint race per weekend works for me. Does it mean an extra sprint race or something else? Either way it upsets the balance between feature and sprint races.

My guess/hope/thought is they have Q for a sprint race, then have a reverse grid sprint race, then Q for feature race and the race itself. That seems logical, to me anyway. I sometimes watch FormulaEuro Open races as they are streamed live on YT and they have 3 races per weekend but I think they are all the same length. I don't bother following that series heavily as most of the races I watched over last couple of years aren't overly exciting. So, don't know how they do Q for the races or if they do reverse grid etc.

Oh yeah, I came across a site that some of you may enjoy. You may know about it already (why didn't you tell me? LOL) but it has races you can watch online (for free) from 1981 onward. I only came across it a few days ago and have been watching the excellent Race to Perfection series that they also have on the site. I only clicked the popup for the year selection and saw it went back to 1981 and didn't want to get lost in that rabbit hole until I finish the R2P series. But it looks like a handy place to watch many if not all F1 races from '81 onward.

https://overtakefans.com/f1-race-archive/

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

The media need to, which they won't, keep on Lewis about this. I mean he knows how to use Google I am sure so an hour or two of research some evening while some high class escort is sucking his cock is easily doable. This will serve to educate and inform him of the situation in SA so next race they can ask him what he thinks since he previously indicated that he "would like to know more about it."

If the media kept asking about this issue, Lewis would just whine how they only badger him about it cause he's black. MUH WACISM is a convenient deflection tactic.
I would respect any driver speaking up against SA and their treatment of pretty much anyone who's not lucky enough to have some inbred goatherder with an oilwell in their family tree.
Problem is: I guess their hands are tied, openly refusing to drive would be a massive breach of protocol and could lead to massive punishments by the FIA and their team, so I don't expect anyone to really stand up for what is the right thing to do, sadly.
Lewis could very easily waive that one race and still do fine in the WDC rating without it and he's constantly blathering on and on about what he calls human rights issues, but they are just BLM shitstorms focused on the western world. Given his usual attitude, he'd be more of a hypocrite than anyone else, if he keeps ignoring the facts.

But again: Not taking any stance by saying you don't know enough of the issue is posing as being culturally sensitive, so you can virtue signal, while you deliberately ignore the suffering of millions of people.

 

[Weeb Slinger]

Figuratively speaking, Lewis is a vegan on an extended cheat day, stuffing a greasy cheeseburger into his mouth, while he moralises on the evils of consuming meat and dairy.

He will come up against the same timeworn problem faced by anyone who ardently lectures on a given social topic at the drop of a hat; that of diminishing returns. When everything becomes a sermon, people tune you out. When you amp-up the anti-racist rhetoric to incendiary levels while addressing this issue in the context of one nation, and then disingenuously feign ignorance, dial down the volume, and slip into sketchy PR-speak, when asked for comment on national regimes where racism is more entrenched in the fabric of society, and where slavery, of a form, still exists, then you look like a hypocrite; one who will only speak out on an issue up to the point where doing so might impact negatively on your career and your earnings. A cynic might wonder whether you are pandering to those multi-national sponsors who promote a woke agenda in western nations, while happily adopting exploitative practices elsewhere in the world. You are certainly cut from the same crooked cloth.

It's a piece of theatre; one that leaves a sour taste in the mouth. The now customary 'voluntary, but not really' kneeling ceremony wraps an empty gesture around a serious issue, and smacks of gamesmanship; of Hamilton bending the rest of the pack to his will.

F1 is a dirty sport that has put down roots in places with disgraceful human rights records. If you want to address racism from the platform of F1 World Champion, without coming across as a complete phony, you have to shine your bright light everywhere that the sport goes. If not, then you are another Greta Thunberg, admonishing one half of the world for its crimes against nature, while turning your back on China's smog-laden skies.

My opinion is that Hamilton has done more to address racism as an aspirational figure; a black man at the top of his game, who set benchmarks on the track.

 

[Coccxys]

Personally I would prefer the competitors is the sports I watch to shut up and play the sport for my entertainment. I am perfectly happy for them to all go race in the worst, most oppressive regimes on earth, hell get the Pyongyang track built for all I care as long as it's a good track. In the same vein though shut the fuck up about muh Western blacks, just get in the car and race and if you give an interview it better be about the performance of the car or some event during practice/qualifying/race.

 

[Coccxys]

The calendar for next season is out (assuming no Corona fuckery)





Vietnam has been dropped following the government minister responsible for the grand Prix being arrested.



I'm hoping if they replace it with a GP from this season it's Murgello, that is a great track. Imola and Portimao were both meh races though that could be down to the way the sport is going at the moment anyway.

Interlargos is on there thankfully though it's a 1 year deal and Liberty don't like the promoter of that race so renewal looks unlikely. The Rio track hasn't gotten approval to start building yet and a few drivers are vocally against it as it involves clearing some rainforest out of the way.



I hope the media hold Hamilton to his objections when the promoter bribes enough officials to get approval and it's put on the calendar but we'll see. Personally I want Interlargos kept on there and liberty can get over themselves for the sake of the sport. Apparently I finally found something I can agree with Hamilton on...

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

It's weird not having a GP in Germany tbh and I certainly could do without races in Saudi Barbaria and that other sandland... but oh well.

At least we'll finally see Zandvoort again, that racetrack looks pretty neat. Wouldn't mind a return to Mugello either...

 

[The Grognard]

Saudis get a race simply because they have infinite money and still think F1 is incredibly valuable advertisement for them.