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Of course making them 50% electric and losing the mgu-h was going to do that, everyone said it would. They've nuked the sport on the demands of a potential competitor. F1 doesn't need VAG, why make everything worse to get them?
 
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Alonso and Stroll are deeply unhappy with the car, saying they're at least 4 seconds off the pace
Looks like they're reaching only 300 kph where others are going 330-345
Probably too little engine cooling

Lance Stroll: "We have engine problems, and not just engine problems. We're not in a position to fight for victories. Right now, we're four seconds off the pace."
 
Either way, enjoy car footage
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In other news,
Alpine to end WEC Hypercar project after 2026
Lando Norris shitposts in Verstappen's Twitch stream chat
Mercedes power unit cases solved, new ruleset will be signed before the start of the season
 
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Mercedes power unit cases solved, new ruleset will be signed before the start of the season
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So what is the solution then? New measurement techniques or a refined method to measure certain aspects? Imagine if the Merc engine is deemed illegal. that would kick out 8 cars and would held F1 liable for the tv stations to whom they sold the broadcasting rights. If my memory is correct F1 promised to at least have 20 cars on the grid at all time so if we downsize to 14 cars F1 is basically breaking their own sales pitch.

Also, it makes me wonder why Red Bull joined the rest as I thought they had the basically same solution as Mercedes. either they believe they are in the clear or they never had the trick to begin with and their engine is just that good (allegedly)
 
Balr0g said:
So what is the solution then? New measurement techniques or a refined method to measure certain aspects? Imagine if the Merc engine is deemed illegal. that would kick out 8 cars and would held F1 liable for the tv stations to whom they sold the broadcasting rights. If my memory is correct F1 promised to at least have 20 cars on the grid at all time so if we downsize to 14 cars F1 is basically breaking their own sales pitch.

Also, it makes me wonder why Red Bull joined the rest as I thought they had the basically same solution as Mercedes. either they believe they are in the clear or they never had the trick to begin with and their engine is just that good (allegedly)
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Engine manufacturers and the FIA are close to agreeing on an updated PU regulation to resolve the dispute before it turns into legal protests, clarifying how power units are checked and self-monitored to eliminate the ambiguous interpretation of existing rules (obviously specifically targeting the suspected Mercedes compression ratio advantage). The key technical fix is a change to control systems and inspection methods, introducing the possibility of partial "hot" checks (checking the engine in operating conditions, preventing teams from legally declaring a cold 16:1 value while achieving a higher one in actual running conditions)
 
Michael Bay is suing $1.5M to Cadillac for apparently stealing his ideas for the livery reveal advertisement done during the Super Bowl. So American.
He claims he got hired by the car manufacturer then fired before the release of the commercial, while Cadillac says he wasn't officially hired.
 
It wasn't even a good ad. "Put the car on Mars." Brilliant. An overrated, boring, dreary, cloudy, rusted out planet for a boring monochrome livery. How about a badass action scene with some explosions and sexy chicks on a planet with oxygen where people won't suffocate and freeze to death at the equator? What do you even hire Micheal Bay FOR?

On an unrelated note, I'm marathonning the 1970s recaps on F1TV since they've strongarmed me into paying for it via Apple TV. They are really interesting. Whole new respect for Jackie Stewart, never really knew his deal before. The casualness with which once or twice an episode you get, "And the mood was slightly dampened when so-and-so driver burnt to death/got split in half by a guardrail...anyway on to the next race," is truly surreal. As safe as things are now in comparison, that can definitely still happen and almost did to Grosjean. I'm pretty sure THAT is among the key reasons why it's hard to find women who want to drive like this for a dick measuring contest when they could be doing anything else.
 
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On an unrelated note, I'm marathonning the 1970s recaps on F1TV since they've strongarmed me into paying for it via Apple TV. They are really interesting. Whole new respect for Jackie Stewart, never really knew his deal before. The casualness with which once or twice an episode you get, "And the mood was slightly dampened when so-and-so driver burnt to death/got split in half by a guardrail...anyway on to the next race," is truly surreal. As safe as things are now in comparison, that can definitely still happen and almost did to Grosjean. I'm pretty sure THAT is among the key reasons why it's hard to find women who want to drive like this for a dick measuring contest when they could be doing anything else.
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I have some old yearbooks of the F1 seasons back in the 70's and when you read through threm you really get a different vibe for F1. Like in 1 year I think 2 or 3 drivers died in that season and they all go to racing the next month like nothing happened. Then you read what the drivers and teams earn (the payment structure is broken down in those books) and you think they are risking their life for some pennies (by today's standard). Stewart was one of the drivers who actually pushed for better safety. Just do some research on how track safety evolved and at first the track owners were solely responsible with no guidlines and that slowly shifted (for examples hay balls were banned as track barriers in the early 60's) Or look at old F1 pictures. I saw one from Spa and there was basically no barrier between the box and the starting grid
 
The push for safety in the sport has been amazing but it feels like they've got too risk averse. Between instantly stopping and going home if it rains within 20 miles of the circuit and making the cars far to large and heavy for exciting racing just to pass the minimum safety criteria it has impacted the quality of the sport.

You will never make a sport about going as fast a possible pushing the limits while wheel to wheel with others totally safe so there needs to be a place you put that line. It feels like too much of modern safety in the sport is just what would have stopped the last major crash while ignoring how likely that is to ever be replicated.
 
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but it feels like they've got too risk averse.
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No kidding, but you can't have a family-friendly sport where it's also true that it's possible to die horrifically. But such is life nowadays. For the purposes of marketing, everything has to be sanded down and subject to the most sensitive whims of the fanbase. Which is weird, because if you're willing to risk your life in a car going 300 kph, there's categorically something wrong with you.

I'm not saying the cars should be unsafe, just that these guys know the risks.
 
Stroll 10 minutes after getting out of the car
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Team principal is hard at work trying to improve the situation
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Alonso complains about the 2026 cars being too easy to drive: "Here in Bahrain, we're going 50 kilometers per hour slower through corner 12 than we used to. Just to save energy for the straights. Even our chef in the kitchen could drive these cars."

After Verstappen's "2026 regulations are like Formula E on steroids" comment, some Formula E peeps couldn't resist
Formula E CEO:
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Kiro Race Co Formula E team:
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bonus wholesome chungus
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