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Not wrecking is an improvement over Sargeant.
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I don't think he was ever in danger of landing a full time drive unless his sponsors are handing out cash like it's going out of fashion
Realistically this is his only chance to get his hands on F1 machinery and most would take that chance all day long, even if its just 9 races.
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Concept art for the Ferrari Monza special livery
Looks great, doubt it will end up being thos bad ass though. It has set the cultLH off with "look lewlew is getting a black liveried car like he wants" as if they aren't going to revert right back to red.
Looks great, doubt it will end up being thos bad ass though. It has set the cultLH off with "look lewlew is getting a black liveried car like he wants" as if they aren't going to revert right back to red.
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For a second there I thought this was going to be the real thing.
What are they gonna do? Raw carbon with golden markings?
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I love the classic JPS livery vibe.
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And we got the first crash of this Monza race weekend
It's Bernd Mayländer in the safety car
(in case you didn't know, they do high speed test runs on Thursday)
It's Bernd Mayländer in the safety car
(in case you didn't know, they do high speed test runs on Thursday)
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Now the question is, is there a safety car for when the safety car crashes? Who drives it?
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If Renault's people are serious, they'd set fire to Ocon's car, as per the great French tradition. It's not like he could possibly do any worse without a car than he can with one.
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Poor kid got astroturfed into oblivion.
I bet Toto having second thought about putting all of his egg into Kimi's basket.
I bet Toto having second thought about putting all of his egg into Kimi's basket.
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Please, please, let Kimi be Debris 2.0... We need the kino.
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I'd feel sorry for the kid, but seeing Toto rage would be cinema.
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Williams boss issues brutal Mick Schumacher assessment
Williams team boss James Vowles made a blunt assessment of Mick Schumacher after opting not to sign the German.
Mat Coch
30 August 2024
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Williams boss James Vowles has offered a brutal assessment of Mick Schumacher and Franco Colapinto following the latter's promotion to a race seat in place of Logan Sargeant.
The young Argentinian will make his grand prix debut this weekend alongside Alex Albon after the squad cut ties with Sargeant following the Dutch Grand Prix.
Colapinto was seemingly the third choice for the squad, with Liam Lawson the preferred candidate.
“There were three options on the table, one was Liam Lawson, one was Mick, and one was Franco,” Vowles explained.
“With Liam, the contractual situation with Red Bull wouldn't have worked with me here at Williams, so that didn't become an option for us in that circumstance.
“And then it's a tough choice, it really is.
“Mick has improved a lot from where he was with Haas, there's no doubt about it, he's a competent driver.
“So now the decision is do we put Mick in the car, and I think Mick would have done a good job, or do we invest in an individual that's a part of our academy?
“Both will fall into a category of good, not special,” Vowles asserted.
“I think we have to be straightforward about this; Mick isn't special, he just would have been good.”
The decision to opt for Colaptino came, according to Vowles, down to whether the team wanted to invest on the future or an external party.
It opted for Colapinto with the Williams boss hoping it helps shape the 21-year-old into a strong reserve driver.
“Do I think we've put someone into the deep end of the swimming pool? Absolutely, 100 percent,” Vowles conceded,
“I want to demonstrate to the world that investing in a driver that can… I hope he'll become a very successful reserve driver for us, simulator driver for us, and other aspects depending on how he performs, is investing in the future of Williams.”
The decision to dump Sargeant came as no surprise, with the American's future having been in question for much of the season.
Vowles acknowledged swapping drivers mid-season was far from ideal, but attempted to justify the move by suggesting it was in his best interest.
“The cleanest point to have done it would have been at the beginning of the year,” he noted.
“Logan at the end of last year was starting to get within a tenth of Alex [Albon] and starting to be close, and it was good to see his progression, and if that progression continued I think we would have seen a driver in a very strong place this year.
“The reason now is straightforward: we've had enough experience under our belt to know he's reached the limit of what he's able to achieve – and in fact it's almost unfair on him furthermore continue with him.
“If you look at his face when he gets out of the car, he's given you everything he possibly can, and it's not enough.
“He absolutely never from a human perspective gave me anything other than 100 percent of what he's able to do, but the realisation of where he is on his limits now is very clear.
“And more so than that, the relationship can only become more and more difficult across the last nine races towards the end of the year because he knows what his future holds, which is not to be in F1
“A clean break at this stage feels like the correct decision for all parties.”
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imo the real news here is the inability to hire Lawson for the rest of the 2024 season, despite being Williams' first pick. Could be the biggest hint yet that he'll have an RB seat in 2025.
Williams team boss James Vowles made a blunt assessment of Mick Schumacher after opting not to sign the German.
Mat Coch
30 August 2024
(O)(A)
Williams boss James Vowles has offered a brutal assessment of Mick Schumacher and Franco Colapinto following the latter's promotion to a race seat in place of Logan Sargeant.
The young Argentinian will make his grand prix debut this weekend alongside Alex Albon after the squad cut ties with Sargeant following the Dutch Grand Prix.
Colapinto was seemingly the third choice for the squad, with Liam Lawson the preferred candidate.
“There were three options on the table, one was Liam Lawson, one was Mick, and one was Franco,” Vowles explained.
“With Liam, the contractual situation with Red Bull wouldn't have worked with me here at Williams, so that didn't become an option for us in that circumstance.
“And then it's a tough choice, it really is.
“Mick has improved a lot from where he was with Haas, there's no doubt about it, he's a competent driver.
“So now the decision is do we put Mick in the car, and I think Mick would have done a good job, or do we invest in an individual that's a part of our academy?
“Both will fall into a category of good, not special,” Vowles asserted.
“I think we have to be straightforward about this; Mick isn't special, he just would have been good.”
The decision to opt for Colaptino came, according to Vowles, down to whether the team wanted to invest on the future or an external party.
It opted for Colapinto with the Williams boss hoping it helps shape the 21-year-old into a strong reserve driver.
“Do I think we've put someone into the deep end of the swimming pool? Absolutely, 100 percent,” Vowles conceded,
“I want to demonstrate to the world that investing in a driver that can… I hope he'll become a very successful reserve driver for us, simulator driver for us, and other aspects depending on how he performs, is investing in the future of Williams.”
The decision to dump Sargeant came as no surprise, with the American's future having been in question for much of the season.
Vowles acknowledged swapping drivers mid-season was far from ideal, but attempted to justify the move by suggesting it was in his best interest.
“The cleanest point to have done it would have been at the beginning of the year,” he noted.
“Logan at the end of last year was starting to get within a tenth of Alex [Albon] and starting to be close, and it was good to see his progression, and if that progression continued I think we would have seen a driver in a very strong place this year.
“The reason now is straightforward: we've had enough experience under our belt to know he's reached the limit of what he's able to achieve – and in fact it's almost unfair on him furthermore continue with him.
“If you look at his face when he gets out of the car, he's given you everything he possibly can, and it's not enough.
“He absolutely never from a human perspective gave me anything other than 100 percent of what he's able to do, but the realisation of where he is on his limits now is very clear.
“And more so than that, the relationship can only become more and more difficult across the last nine races towards the end of the year because he knows what his future holds, which is not to be in F1
“A clean break at this stage feels like the correct decision for all parties.”
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imo the real news here is the inability to hire Lawson for the rest of the 2024 season, despite being Williams' first pick. Could be the biggest hint yet that he'll have an RB seat in 2025.
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And there it is
I think he shows tones of promise but isn't ready yet. Another season in F2 or a season in a slower car would probably have been better for him than right into a merc with a load of hype.
I think this (and Hamilton leaving) are both Toto trying not to have another Verstappen scenario. For those that don't know Verstappen was a mercedes junior driver but the F1 team had Hambone and Rossberg on long term contracts blocking Verstappen's route to F1, Red Bull swooped in and grabbed him for TR, and now he's fucking the lot of them up. So Toto would only give 1 year contracts from then on so he wouldn't lose such an opportunity in future. Hamilton left because Ferrari flashed a multi year deal and Toto wouldn't give him more than constant 1 year contracts. So he's grabbed Kimi at the first opportunity, perhaps too soon we'll see, to avoid that ever happening again.
I think he shows tones of promise but isn't ready yet. Another season in F2 or a season in a slower car would probably have been better for him than right into a merc with a load of hype.
I think this (and Hamilton leaving) are both Toto trying not to have another Verstappen scenario. For those that don't know Verstappen was a mercedes junior driver but the F1 team had Hambone and Rossberg on long term contracts blocking Verstappen's route to F1, Red Bull swooped in and grabbed him for TR, and now he's fucking the lot of them up. So Toto would only give 1 year contracts from then on so he wouldn't lose such an opportunity in future. Hamilton left because Ferrari flashed a multi year deal and Toto wouldn't give him more than constant 1 year contracts. So he's grabbed Kimi at the first opportunity, perhaps too soon we'll see, to avoid that ever happening again.
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And he locked up on the first corner of the F2 race, collided with another car, and sent himself to the back of the field.And there it is
I think he shows tones of promise but isn't ready yet. Another season in F2 or a season in a slower car would probably have been better for him than right into a merc with a load of hype
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>Stroll out
>"big shock"
>"big shock"