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Going long on that medium really ended up fucking him over. It might have worked if there wasn't that second safety car but it's a fast street track up against walls so they should probably have factored that in.
 
Dive⚓Team said:
A far better race than expected, but I doubt the glitz and glamour of the circuit is going to last long.

Charles taking Perez in the last lap was nice but he shouldn’t have put himself in 3rd to begin with
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I suspect the circuit will go the way of Baku. Once teams and drivers learn how to get round it, there will be less F1 on ice incidents and the races will become more predictable.

I am divided on Verstappen's start. There wasn't much grip but he's a good enough driver to lean into a drift. I get the feeling he drove the entire race with his middle finger hoisted in the general direction of the organisers. In this era of media training, when the brown tongues of certain members of the Sky Commentary Team appear to have been weighted down with casino chips, it is heartening to hear a driver speak their mind, and not in that passive aggressive way that is part of Hamilton's negative charm.

Perez is a problem for Red Bull. He's good, but not quite good enough. The question is, would another driver be any better?
 
blablabla said:
Why the fuck they didn't.pit.charles a second Time. Fucking morons
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Balr0g said:
Probably because the time loss would have been too great with other drivers coming into the pits. And let's be real he was faster against Perez who had newer tyres. What broke Ferrari's chance was Russell vs. Verstappen
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Yeah, pitting is quite punishing on this track as can be seen from Piastri's second stop. What I don't get is why McLaren only pitted him with 5 laps to go instead of 10 so he could try to climb the field for the third time this race.

Also, fuck Poois. That fucking nonce can't overtake on turns without having some contact with the other driver. He can only overtake on straights with DRS.
 
If there wasn't a rule about having mirrors, I'm sure they'd have taken George's off by now to save a bit of drag. Absolutely zero awareness. Also notice how Toto came on the radio twice to him for no reason, just to show himself in the biggest bestest gp ever I guess.

Fantastic job by Charles and Max, I feel like the decision on the turn 1 inchident could have gone either way with how they were on an ice rink. Charles was basically full lock turning in at one point and still going straight. Would have liked to have had Carlos in the mix too.
 
Quiritium said:
Also, fuck Poois. That fucking nonce can't overtake on turns without having some contact with the other driver. He can only overtake on straights with DRS.
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Fernando said it best, he only knows how to drive from the front of the pack.
 

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Fun race. Lots if chaos and passing. I'm honestly surprised by the number of people outraged by the manhole cover. That has always been an issue at street tracks, especially Baku.

I don't know, it's just weird. Whenever something goes awry in a US race, the F1 fan community is like "SEE?!?! THIS IS WHY THIS SPORT IS WASTED ON AMERICANS!"

At least there is fun shit to do in Vegas when there is a massive delay or a practice gets canceled. What the fuck do you do in the KSA?

That said, I don't get the point of penalizing Sainz. I was less disappointed in Checo (I think his tyres were spent) than i was impressed by LeClerc. He seemed to just keep getting more and more out of his car. Both Ferrari drivers I feel for. I'm awaiting the race where the team orders one of them to pit for wets. And it's not even cloudy.

I know a lot of people turn their nosed up at US races, but I thought that was a pretty fun race.
 
JustStopDude said:
Fun race. Lots if chaos and passing. I'm honestly surprised by the number of people outraged by the manhole cover. That has always been an issue at street tracks, especially Baku.
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The past experience should have taught the race developer a thing or two though. I mean if it has happened once you should be able to find a measure to prevent it
 
Balr0g said:
The past experience should have taught the race developer a thing or two though. I mean if it has happened once you should be able to find a measure to prevent it
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The manhole covers are welded temporarily into place and then tarmac is applied over it.

Short of not having the race on a street circuit or slowing the race speeds down to the level that the ground force effect is minimum (such as Monaco), I'm not exactly sure what else they could engineer.

I think they should absolutely move the race earlier in the year. The cold track temperatures really didn't help with the lack of grip in the tyres.

I just find it so exhausting that people are acting like F1 has thrown out the integrity of this sport by having the race in Vegas. Lol that is long gone, the moment that F1 was taking blood money from dictatorships to hosts races. It's like the fans who think Lewis Hamilton was screwed out of his last title and its this is the most controversial thing ever to happen in the sport. As if Senna never existed.
 
F1 always followed the money. I mean China? Vietnam (though that fell flat). And there was a Vegas GP in the past and it was horrible. I was just saying that there had past experiences with gutters. That should have taught the track developer a thing or two
 
JustStopDude said:
I think they should absolutely move the race earlier in the year. The cold track temperatures really didn't help with the lack of grip in the tyres.
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Honestly, if this is the gimmick for the Vegas GP then it's cool (literally).Vegas genuinely impressed me.

Back in the 90's/00's it used to be a thing to turn up at a snooker hall at 11pm/2am/4am because that's the only place you and your mates could go out to watch F1 live.
Then in the 10's it was warm night races inbetween gays being thrown off the organisers roofs so baz could watch race start at 3pm Sunday GMT.
6am GMT race and cool tyres impressed me, it gave teams decisions to make. It made it interesting outside of DRS(over)taking.
 
Balr0g said:
F1 always followed the money. I mean China? Vietnam (though that fell flat). And there was a Vegas GP in the past and it was horrible. I was just saying that there had past experiences with gutters. That should have taught the track developer a thing or two
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Two years in a row in the early 80s and another one in 2007
 
I'm conflicted on the start penalty and I didn't think Leclerc was making that corner anyway. But fine the stewards have all the angles and data, plus it made things a bit more interesting with Max having to overcome it.

Penalties for overtaking off the track need overhauling. The 5 seconds was introduced for the stewards to be able to penalise minor things without going over the top, not for it to be the default for absolutely everything from running wide 4 time to taking out another driver entirely.

Time and again we've seen a driver get past someone who was holding them up and be 7 seconds down the road by the time they get a 5 second penalty. Why would you give the place back when having track position is more important?

Keep 5 seconds for stuff like running wide too many times. Get the real penalty book out for things like overtaking off the track and similar, make not giving it back really hurt, like far beyond what anyone would consider even close to being beneficial keeping the place. A drive through for example would see every place being handed back instantly. But then they only gave hambone 10 seconds for Silverstone so not holding my breath on them actually making it make sense.
 
Amazing graphic by an F1 media outlet for Las Vegas
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Interesting Hamilton never got overtaken since I distinctly remember him dripping right back through the field following him ruining Piastri's race.

Of course lulu fans are in the comments arguing what does and doesn't count as an overtake.
 
Yeah that graphic is plain wrong. Sainz overtook Hamilton on screen after Hamilton limped to the box (and most likely not only Sainz). Plus Hamilton lost places at the start dropping from P10 to P12.
 
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Amazing graphic by an F1 media outlet for Las Vegas
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Interesting Hamilton never got overtaken since I distinctly remember him dripping right back through the field following him ruining Piastri's race.

Of course lulu fans are in the comments arguing what does and doesn't count as an overtake.
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Lewis doing a full lap with a puncture without loosing a spot. Goat moment :story:
Also 3rd time of year that Hamilton kinda of forget that a car doesn t disapear when you have 2 wheel in front of your opponent. ( PIASTRI Italy , RUSSELL Quatar , PIASTRI Las Vegas)
4th if you had Alonso at Spa last year .
The spaniard might have been onto something on his rant in belgium last year :story:
 
Balr0g said:
Yeah that graphic is plain wrong. Sainz overtook Hamilton on screen after Hamilton limped to the box (and most likely not only Sainz). Plus Hamilton lost places at the start dropping from P10 to P12.
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Thavidu said:
Lewis doing a full lap with a puncture without loosing a spot. Goat moment
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Lewlew posters were busy arguing with everyone that someone driving past a car with a puncture is not an "overtake" but a pass.
 
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