Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

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The little lewlew salt online is at crazy levels, like were almost beating AD21 over a clear cut "if less than 9mm then disqualify" rule that has zero judgement or discretion. Thank god they measured Max's because that instantly cuts off half their nonsense.
 
Yak-130 Mitten said:
Isnt DTM at this point just GT3 under a different name?
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Yup. and they already have a Schumacher among their ranks (David Schumacher) and he isn't an exactly popular driver among the rest of the grid to put it mildly. Seems like the younger Schumacher generation isn't what their fathers were. Or the talent pool has increased since their own times
 
Pee Cola said:
Sometimes it happens the other way round, like with Jos Verstappen.
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I have the impression that Verstappen Snr. got a sense of what was required to succeed in F1 and managed to instill those traits in his son. I read somewhere about him forbidding Max from using conventional overtaking spots early in his career. It's a different approach to that taken with Verstappen's closest rival, Lewis Hamilton, who had a team built around his needs.

Generally driver dynasties will embody the Hank Williams effect. You might get a good one every so often, but no-one who approaches the mercurial original.
 
Weeb Slinger said:
I have the impression that Verstappen Snr. got a sense of what was required to succeed in F1 and managed to instill those traits in his son. I read somewhere about him forbidding Max from using conventional overtaking spots early in his career. It's a different approach to that taken with Verstappen's closest rival, Lewis Hamilton, who had a team built around his needs.

Generally driver dynasties will embody the Hank Williams effect. You might get a good one every so often, but no-one who approaches the mercurial original.
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I feel that part of the reason is that Jos spent a long time in F1 with extremely limited success. His first year in 1994 (where he was in the Benetton with Schumacher) he scored 10 points in a handful of races in a championship winning car. But from 1995 to 2003 he scored a whopping total of 7 championship points. Of course, they were harder to come by back then, but that's 4 races of an actual result in 8 years of being in F1.

Dad may have been in the pinnacle of motorsport, but there was absolutely no expectation of easy success and it's well documented that Jos pushed Max like hell (and that's just from what Max shares, who knows what else went on), It's going to be a different upbringing when the dad was actually used to winning things.
 
Quiritium said:
Can anyone with an Apple titanium phone confirm this stink thing the FIA mentions? Just rub the frame repeatedly on the floor. I'm not doubting it, I just find it amusing. I guess the low height helps explain Pewis' speed yesterday. My boys McLaren and Lando got another second place, just a shame Oscar was the victim des conneries.
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It actually does smell a little strange, like sticking your head in a new pasta pot
scallion said:
They didn't do the flyover!
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They had a fighter jet flyover on the schedule for 1:48. Around 1:45 it disappeared from the app and a JetBlue plane flew over instead from Austin airport, whole section I was in started clapping and cheering for it :feels:
 
Not At All A Lizard said:
I feel that part of the reason is that Jos spent a long time in F1 with extremely limited success. His first year in 1994 (where he was in the Benetton with Schumacher) he scored 10 points in a handful of races in a championship winning car. But from 1995 to 2003 he scored a whopping total of 7 championship points. Of course, they were harder to come by back then, but that's 4 races of an actual result in 8 years of being in F1.

Dad may have been in the pinnacle of motorsport, but there was absolutely no expectation of easy success and it's well documented that Jos pushed Max like hell (and that's just from what Max shares, who knows what else went on), It's going to be a different upbringing when the dad was actually used to winning things.
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It's funny, I think a lot of people have forgotten the Jos Vercrashen days due to Max's success.
 
quaawaa said:
I don't see why anyone besides nationalist Germans and old Michael Schumacher fans would ever expect Vowles to replace a Williams development driver on his first season with a Ferrari development driver who failed to do anything of note in two seasons. Logan isn't amazing, but neither is Mick, and if he had a different last name, no one would care about him. If Logan fails to perform next year, he will probably be fired, but his rookie season is objectively better than Mick's.
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I wouldn't exactly call a single pity point after 3 wrecks and 2 disqualifications objective proof that Logan has had a better rookie season. You could easily argue that he's had a worse rookie season than Mick's due to the amount of financial damage he's caused Williams by wrecking into literally every barrier he can find. I know Mick had that bad crash that tore the car in half, but I don't remember him spearing the wall every single race weekend. The point is that a "good season" isn't just how much you score.

My opinion is that both Logan and Mick are bad and neither should be in the seat next year, but even this stroke of luck is probably all it takes to convince Williams, who seem desperate for any reason to give their development driver another year. Too bad none of the American fans really care about the wall terrorist.

In other news, of all the driver signings, this was one of them:

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At least Rasmussen got a ride too.
 
Friendly Primarina said:
How much input do you think Michael Schumacher actually had? Hasn't he been a vegetable for the last like 10 years?
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His family and friends keep a remarkable level of privacy about it considering how famous he is. I personally think he's probably awake and communicating (based on few random mentions we get), but not much more.

Mick was about 14 at the time and had been karting for 5 or 6 years. He got his first seat in a proper car a year after his dad got fucked up. That's also around when he started racing under his real name openly. So in terms of setting up his career and attitude Michael would have pushed it plenty, but his progression through to F1 was probably more due to the name and money. To be fair, he's not an awful racing driver either, just by F1 standards he is not good enough.
 
Not At All A Lizard said:
His family and friends keep a remarkable level of privacy about it considering how famous he is. I personally think he's probably awake and communicating (based on few random mentions we get), but not much more.

Mick was about 14 at the time and had been karting for 5 or 6 years. He got his first seat in a proper car a year after his dad got fucked up. That's also around when he started racing under his real name openly. So in terms of setting up his career and attitude Michael would have pushed it plenty, but his progression through to F1 was probably more due to the name and money. To be fair, he's not an awful racing driver either, just by F1 standards he is not good enough.
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I have worked on a neurological ward. Serious head injuries generally result in greatly impaired memory and cognition. Verbal communication is extremely limited Everyone is different and Michael will be getting very good treatment, but after the first few months where all the relatively big gains are made, there is a plateau. I would imagine that he is able to engage with people around him, but I think actual conversation would be minimal and very low level. Families have shown me videos of patients before their accidents and they are barely recognisable as the same person.
 
Hambone fans are now shitting up the place about turn 6 track limits. Apparently there were a few infractions there that weren't caught (the image all the reporting is using shows a red bull over the line then quietly mentions it's Checo). By all accounts the stewarding camera at turn 6 was positioned wrong so didn't catch people. Of course they screech when you tell them no amount of penalties for everyone else will undisqualify lewlew.

Penalty has expired, time to get that 2024 charger sorted.

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The Juncos clown show continues. Poor Callum.

The only positive coming out of silly season lately is that Rasmussen got a drive, but even then he's being forced to sit out on ovals which he's good at because Ed Carpenter still wants to hobby race. Between Vips getting screwed due to RLL needing money, Illot getting screwed because his team is run by a bunch of brainless monkeys, and Kyffin fucking Simpson getting a full-time Ganassi ride despite having nothing to show for it except for $$$ and his rich daddy threatening to pull his sponsorship, it's been a dark silly season for young talent.

If you can believe it, it might get worse- there are rumors floating around that the candidates for Andretti's hypothetical fourth car are...Sting Ray Robb...and...wait for it...TATIANA FUCKING CALDERON.

If you're wondering why I'm bringing this up, I find silly season right now to be a lot more interesting (aka rage-inducing) than the Max Wins Lol we're sure to have this weekend.
 
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