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Driver got tired of driving and decided he wanted to take a seat and watch the action instead.
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Practice for this weekend's WEC round at the Autodromo do Algarve has resumed after a car landed in a grandstand during a support event.
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LiveFromNS said:
Driver got tired of driving and decided he wanted to take a seat and watch the action instead.
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Practice for this weekend's WEC round at the Autodromo do Algarve has resumed after a car landed in a grandstand during a support event.
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WOW, I thought it'd be at a small track but no it's Portimao which is a FIA grade one circuit and hosts MotoGP, lucky it happened during practice. Bloody weird place to have an off, didn't even get to the first corner.

Bit surprised they carried on. Someones off buying some better catch fencing.
 
Anyone watches the DTM (well it stands for Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft but in reality it's a GT3 competition now)? They are supposed to test in Spielberg on this weekend and today the entire circuit has a thin snow lawyer on it. Now that would be fun to see high powered race cars drift around in the snow
 
Some rumours swirling about liberty wanting to change qualifying format on sprint weekends to a single lap shootout. Remember last time we had that? It was shit.

Feels like sprints haven't given them the fucked up grids they wanted. In fact if anything they reduce the chance since you have an extra 1/3 of a GP to unfuck a bad qualifying.

In other news Hong Kong billionaire looking to become a millionaire by getting into F1

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He raises a good point though, money ain't the issue, getting people who know what the fuck they're doing is. We've seen plenty of new teams with rich backers turn up and get decimated.
 
There was plenty of Asian money in F1 back in the 80's to 2000's but they either flaked out or the economy under them collapsed. That said, if this Asian team actually becomes a thing they should actually place it in an Asian country instead of just buying some property in the UK and sticking a label to it. Personal suggestions would be either place it near Tokyo or Hong Kong. That way, there's at least good international flight connections and necessary engineering talent available.
 
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There was plenty of Asian money in F1 back in the 80's to 2000's but they either flaked out or the economy under them collapsed. That said, if this Asian team actually becomes a thing they should actually place it in an Asian country instead of just buying some property in the UK and sticking a label to it. Personal suggestions would be either place it near Tokyo or Hong Kong. That way, there's at least good international flight connections and necessary engineering talent available.
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The first "wave" of Asian support came in the late 80's early 90's. There was one success (Honda) and a lot of shit. Yamaha was way less successful but at least got some results and then we had Leyton House (bought March and the owner got thrown into prison for tax evasion dooming the team) the Middlebridge Group (bought Brabham and they went under) and Footwork (bought Arrows, burned a lot of cash and left in 1993 leaving Arrows with 2 more years of Footwork Arrows as team name because Ohashi kept the naming rights until Walkinshaw bought them back in 1996) Getting a new team running in today's regulation is a challenge and if you buy a team get ready for some years of adjustments before it amounts to something
 
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A quick reminder of how based F1 commentary used to be.

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Apparently when they started they made Hunt and Walker share a microphone as they kept trying to talk over eachother, but they became good friends. Nowadays we just get Croft, who whilst I don't hate him feels very much like the Michael Cole of F1. That is to say a yes man who won't say anything controversial.
 
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The first "wave" of Asian support came in the late 80's early 90's. There was one success (Honda) and a lot of shit. Yamaha was way less successful but at least got some results and then we had Leyton House (bought March and the owner got thrown into prison for tax evasion dooming the team) the Middlebridge Group (bought Brabham and they went under) and Footwork (bought Arrows, burned a lot of cash and left in 1993 leaving Arrows with 2 more years of Footwork Arrows as team name because Ohashi kept the naming rights until Walkinshaw bought them back in 1996) Getting a new team running in today's regulation is a challenge and if you buy a team get ready for some years of adjustments before it amounts to something
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You still have to remember the economic history of these things. Japanese money was very good in the 80's because the Japanese economy was legendarily loaded at the time. The real estate market in Tokyo was on par with the madness that's currently gripping London and San Fran but this was in spite of there being insane levels of constant growth in all sectors, while boomers legitimately thought Japan would end up taking over the world during this time. Cue the asset bubble bursting in 1991 and suddenly, there wasn't that many companies willing to compete with cigarette companies in sponsorships.

Rest of Asia had their own economic tigers but they too ran into problems in the 1997 finance crisis that ended up screwing a lot of those who wanted their respective countries to be the next Japan. Some companies at least stuck around from this and thus, Petronas at least got a lot of exposure now that the team they back now won some titles. Most of their car companies are more interested in sports that are at least somewhat cheaper, as you can see with Hyundai in WRC and Touring cars. Proton tried for a bit to make Lotus F1 a thing again but ran into the usual problem of "shit's too expensive for the pay-off" which considering it's a company meant for cars for those who think a Korean car is a bit too bourgie for them was not a surprise.

Then when F1 became mostly a works-team sport in the 2000's, the subprime mortgage crisis caused a major crisis in the automotive industry now that everyone stopped buying cars for a few years which is why Toyota and Honda left the sport. Of course, it didn't help that both of these teams tried to do things their own way instead of trying to find the optimal solution to the problem of not having the fastest car. Of course, F1 moving to pay TV in a lot of critical markets and the .com bubble companies not being able to replace the lost money from Cigs and Booze also helped matters.

Finally, as a pro tip for anyone who wants to create a start-up; Steal a concept that failed during the .com boom and just make it a smart-phone app. People still haven't learned a damn thing from those days.
 
New qualifying format for sprint sessions as a test for extending the format to all qualifying sessions.

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Odd that it goes med-med-soft with no hards making an appearance. Yeah hards are slowest over a lap but it's an equal hardship on all and pushes development of the car.
 
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Odd that it goes med-med-soft with no hards making an appearance. Yeah hards are slowest over a lap but it's an equal hardship on all and pushes development of the car.
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Don't quote me as I may be wrong, (I am somewhat certain) that I read for next year, not just sprint but all Qs, that Q1 you use H, Q2 M and Q3 S. Anyone else hear/read that? It ,ay havbe been just sprints too. Just remember something from 2 or 3 weeks ago. Too lazy to go looking at moment.

Also, I am happy, but a tiny bit surprised, the race is going ahead as again, a week or two ago I thought I read the war was flaring up and figured if so, the pussies would wimp out and not go lest a missile hits something 50 miles from the track.

Either way, been a long wait, glad racing is back! Also, side note on Indy, Grosjean could have had a 1st, 2nd and 4th in the first 3 races which pretty sure would have had him solidly in the lead for the title. He/Andretti are looking much better this year. Also, McLaren are introducing 3 "triple crown" liveries for the 500, celebrating their victories in those races.
 
LiveFromNS said:
Don't quote me as I may be wrong, (I am somewhat certain) that I read for next year, not just sprint but all Qs, that Q1 you use H, Q2 M and Q3 S. Anyone else hear/read that? It ,ay havbe been just sprints too. Just remember something from 2 or 3 weeks ago. Too lazy to go looking at moment.
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Thats what it was originally, and it is for all qualifyings, but this is them trial running it at sprint weekends so looks like they've changed their minds on the hards.

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Instead of relying on wacky formats to jumble the grid, how about giving the weaker teams additional engine allotments and/or DNF insurance (one DNF from engine failure doesn't count to the limit). Would that allow them to run a more aggressive mapping and actually punch above their weight class?
 
Huh apparently they've completely changed the format.

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Now they have normal qualifying on Friday setting the grid for Sunday, then a second qualifying on Satuday using the new format to set the grid for the sprint.

Meaning the sprint finishing order doesn't impact the race. Making it even more pointless than it already was.

Honestly I wouldn't be upset if all the back marker teams just park up after lap 1 of the sprint to reduce engine and component wear and save some money. If you're 20th in the "sprint shootout" there is literally nothing to be gained by trundling around at the back for 100 km with no strategy effects that could help move you into the points (which also end higher up).
 
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