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LiveFromNS said:

IndyCar team changes car’s number to avoid “reprehensible associations”​

Posted on 27th January 2023, 21:10 | Written by Keith Collantine

IndyCar team Foyt has changed the number that one of its cars will use this year due to “ideologic and symbolic references”.

The team announced last week its driver Benjamin Pedersen had chosen to use the number 88 for his rookie campaign in the series this year. However Foyt advised media today it will replace the number due to the connotations around it.

“After the reveal of the no. 88 livery last week, it was brought to our attention that the combination of our two individually entered numbers carries certain ideologic and symbolic references,” said the team in a statement.

“AJ Foyt Racing does not condone nor support any such ideologies or symbols and to avoid any reprehensible associations we have changed the entry number from 88 to 55.”

While the team has not specified the nature of its concerns, they are likely to relate to the number’s associations within American neo-Nazi movements, particularly when combined with the number 14.

The team has long used that number, which its founder AJ Foyt had on his car when he scored the last two of his four Indianapolis 500 wins, in 1967 and 1977.

The Foyt team originally made light of Pedersen’s choice of number, announcing: “AJ Foyt will be reminded of just how old he is every time Benjamin Pedersen takes to the track this year as the racing legend turned 88 which is the number the Danish-American driver chose to run in his rookie campaign.”

Foyt confirmed Pedersen will now use number 55 instead. His team mate Santino Ferrucci was previously entered in their number 14 car.
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Did NASCAR force the #88 car to change it's car number yet?
 

Ford considering F1 return with Red Bull – report​

The “new car” Red Bull will present at its launch event on Friday will not be its RB19 chassis but a presentation of its livery for the 2023 F1 season, RaceFans understands.

However rumours are growing the world championship will announce a tie-up with Ford. The American motoring giant’s long history in Formula 1 ended in 2004, when it sold its Jaguar team to Red Bull and withdrew as an engine supplied to Jordan.

According to The Mirror, a deal between Red Bull and Ford is expected, with a possible announcement coming during the team’s launch event.

Red Bull have set up their own powertrains division following Honda’s official withdrawal from F1 at the end of 2021. However, Honda continue to manufacture the power units that RBPT run and maintain.
 
Hass revealed, have to say it looks rather smart

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LiveFromNS said:

Ford considering F1 return with Red Bull – report​

The “new car” Red Bull will present at its launch event on Friday will not be its RB19 chassis but a presentation of its livery for the 2023 F1 season, RaceFans understands.

However rumours are growing the world championship will announce a tie-up with Ford. The American motoring giant’s long history in Formula 1 ended in 2004, when it sold its Jaguar team to Red Bull and withdrew as an engine supplied to Jordan.

According to The Mirror, a deal between Red Bull and Ford is expected, with a possible announcement coming during the team’s launch event.

Red Bull have set up their own powertrains division following Honda’s official withdrawal from F1 at the end of 2021. However, Honda continue to manufacture the power units that RBPT run and maintain.
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The thing that worries me about this modern iteration of Ford is if they'll fall to the same old mistakes they did back in the early 2000's, which was meddling with a perfectly viable team and rendering them dysfunctional by constant corporate nonsense.
 
Weeb Slinger said:
That is a very good looking car.

I look forward to watching it inexplicably veering off benign section of various F1 circuits, at unexpected moments.
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If it breaks down, then it's on the owner.
 
TVBForever said:
That I can't say
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It's hard to say. The 88 went away after 2020, but that was coincident with a complete reshuffle at that team.

edit to add: It would be hard for NASCAR to make an overt move on the number since it's heavily associated with two drivers, one (Dale Jarrett) who was pretty popular in his era and another (Dale Earnhardt Jr.) who... This is the F1 thread but I don't think I need to explain his popularity.
 
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The Grognard said:
The thing that worries me about this modern iteration of Ford is if they'll fall to the same old mistakes they did back in the early 2000's, which was meddling with a perfectly viable team and rendering them dysfunctional by constant corporate nonsense.
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Red Bull won't give up control of the team, it's why the porsche deal fell apart. Ford would likely not be given the opportunity to meddle if they partner.
 
So I heard that it'sd official: Ford will be the RedBull partner from 2026 onwards. Makes sense as they will have a lot of time to build an engine to the 2026 specs while RedBull uses their "Honda" engines for the coming years (and weith the engine freeze they at least have a very strong psoition though Ferrari might say otherwise). Maybe we go back to the older era of F1 where Ford was the engine supplier for nearly all teams (Some seasons there were only Fords with two Ferraris and one or two Matras in the mix)
 
Balr0g said:
So I heard that it'sd official: Ford will be the RedBull partner from 2026 onwards. Makes sense as they will have a lot of time to build an engine to the 2026 specs while RedBull uses their "Honda" engines for the coming years (and weith the engine freeze they at least have a very strong psoition though Ferrari might say otherwise). Maybe we go back to the older era of F1 where Ford was the engine supplier for nearly all teams (Some seasons there were only Fords with two Ferraris and one or two Matras in the mix)
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Unfortunately without a massive change in F1 we'll never see anything like DFV hegemony again. The meta back then was 'make a pretty good car, buy a DFV for it' and the whole business model is now much much lamer. You make a car, and work with the engine designers (if you have the pull) to make the two work together and move on from there. So much money.
 
The thing with 70's F1 was that you actually could run a team with a very small budget back then. Buy a chassis from March or Brabham, engine-gearbox combo is Cosworth DFV with Hewland, suspension from Koni, the rubber from Goodyear, fuel from ELF or Texaco, find some playboy to be the gentleman driver. Just find a cig brand to sponsor the team and you have your all-year one car entry.
 
The Grognard said:
The thing with 70's F1 was that you actually could run a team with a very small budget back then. Buy a chassis from March or Brabham, engine-gearbox combo is Cosworth DFV with Hewland, suspension from Koni, the rubber from Goodyear, fuel from ELF or Texaco, find some playboy to be the gentleman driver. Just find a cig brand to sponsor the team and you have your all-year one car entry.
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Yeah that's what I was getting at, but it was too early in the morning. :)

Now everything has to be bespoke and no tabacash.
 

FIA invites applications for up to two new teams to enter F1 from 2025​

Posted on 2nd February 2023, 12:33 | Written by Keith Collantine

The FIA has started an applications process for new teams to enter Formula 1 from 2025.

The governing body of motorsport announced “the official launch of an application process to identify prospective teams seeking to participate at a competitive level in the FIA Formula One world championship.”

Successful new applicants may choose to enter in 2025, 2026 – when new technical regulations are due for introduction – or 2027.

The FIA says it will determine which if any candidates are chosen based on “the overall long-term interests of the championship, together with the applicable regulations and governance arrangements.”

Its criteria for judging which teams are permitted to enter will cover eight points. These include “the technical ability and resources of the team” and “the ability of the team to meet and comply with its obligations under the F1 Sporting, Technical, and Financial Regulations.”

Applicants will also have to show they can cope with the financial demands of participating in F1. The FIA will assess “the ability of the team to raise and maintain sufficient funding to meet its financial obligations and to allow participation in the championship at a competitive level” and applicants must provide “a detailed business plan (including financial projections) for the first five years of the project; the team’s experience and capabilities in the automobile and/or motorsport sector (including technical experience, racing experience, facilities, equipment, and engineering resources) and relevant staff headcount/ experience.”

The hopeful entrants must also indicate “whether the team and all individuals proposing to participate in the ownership, control, or management of the team are fit and proper persons” and provide “considerations of sustainability, EDI (Equality, Diversity, and Inclusion), and societal benefit” of their entry.

Finally, the FIA will consider an “assessment of the value that the candidate may bring to the championship, including consideration of its reputation and integrity.”

The FIA noted that F1’s commercial rights holder, Liberty Media, “may also impose additional selection criteria/conditions (to be advised separately during the application process).” F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali has previously indicated his resistance to expanding the grid beyond its current 10 teams.

The FIA said it “anticipates” the final deadline for applications to be submitted will be April 30th 2023, and a decision will follow by June 30th.

“For the avoidance of doubt, no new applicant has an automatic right of entry to the championship and the maximum number of teams competing in the Championship up to and including the 2025 season is capped at 12. Existing F1 teams will be given priority over new applicants. In the event that no applicant is considered suitable by the FIA and/or by the F1 Commercial Rights Holder, no new F1 team(s) will be selected.”

The federation’s president Mohammed Ben Sulayem, who revealed last month he planned to open a process for new teams to apply to enter, said: “the growth and appeal of the FIA Formula One world championship is at unprecedented levels.

“The FIA believes the conditions are right for interested parties, which meet the selection criteria, to express a formal interest in entering the championship.

“For the first time ever, as part of the selection conditions, we are requesting that candidates set out how they would meet the FIA’s sustainability benchmarks and how they would make a positive societal impact through sport.

“The process is a logical extension of the positive acceptance of the FIA’s 2026 F1 power unit regulations from engine manufacturers which has attracted Audi to Formula 1 and created interest among other potential entrants.”

An F1 spokesperson told RaceFans it is “positive to have a clear process” for new teams to enter the series.

“As the FIA have said this will involve the relevant stakeholders and any interest will be assessed by us together and consider what is best for the championship.”
 
LiveFromNS said:

FIA invites applications for up to two new teams to enter F1 from 2025​

Posted on 2nd February 2023, 12:33 | Written by Keith Collantine

The FIA has started an applications process for new teams to enter Formula 1 from 2025.

The governing body of motorsport announced “the official launch of an application process to identify prospective teams seeking to participate at a competitive level in the FIA Formula One world championship.”

Successful new applicants may choose to enter in 2025, 2026 – when new technical regulations are due for introduction – or 2027.

The FIA says it will determine which if any candidates are chosen based on “the overall long-term interests of the championship, together with the applicable regulations and governance arrangements.”

Its criteria for judging which teams are permitted to enter will cover eight points. These include “the technical ability and resources of the team” and “the ability of the team to meet and comply with its obligations under the F1 Sporting, Technical, and Financial Regulations.”

Applicants will also have to show they can cope with the financial demands of participating in F1. The FIA will assess “the ability of the team to raise and maintain sufficient funding to meet its financial obligations and to allow participation in the championship at a competitive level” and applicants must provide “a detailed business plan (including financial projections) for the first five years of the project; the team’s experience and capabilities in the automobile and/or motorsport sector (including technical experience, racing experience, facilities, equipment, and engineering resources) and relevant staff headcount/ experience.”

The hopeful entrants must also indicate “whether the team and all individuals proposing to participate in the ownership, control, or management of the team are fit and proper persons” and provide “considerations of sustainability, EDI (Equality, Diversity, and Inclusion), and societal benefit” of their entry.

Finally, the FIA will consider an “assessment of the value that the candidate may bring to the championship, including consideration of its reputation and integrity.”

The FIA noted that F1’s commercial rights holder, Liberty Media, “may also impose additional selection criteria/conditions (to be advised separately during the application process).” F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali has previously indicated his resistance to expanding the grid beyond its current 10 teams.

The FIA said it “anticipates” the final deadline for applications to be submitted will be April 30th 2023, and a decision will follow by June 30th.

“For the avoidance of doubt, no new applicant has an automatic right of entry to the championship and the maximum number of teams competing in the Championship up to and including the 2025 season is capped at 12. Existing F1 teams will be given priority over new applicants. In the event that no applicant is considered suitable by the FIA and/or by the F1 Commercial Rights Holder, no new F1 team(s) will be selected.”

The federation’s president Mohammed Ben Sulayem, who revealed last month he planned to open a process for new teams to apply to enter, said: “the growth and appeal of the FIA Formula One world championship is at unprecedented levels.

“The FIA believes the conditions are right for interested parties, which meet the selection criteria, to express a formal interest in entering the championship.

“For the first time ever, as part of the selection conditions, we are requesting that candidates set out how they would meet the FIA’s sustainability benchmarks and how they would make a positive societal impact through sport.

“The process is a logical extension of the positive acceptance of the FIA’s 2026 F1 power unit regulations from engine manufacturers which has attracted Audi to Formula 1 and created interest among other potential entrants.”

An F1 spokesperson told RaceFans it is “positive to have a clear process” for new teams to enter the series.

“As the FIA have said this will involve the relevant stakeholders and any interest will be assessed by us together and consider what is best for the championship.”
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I've heard the teams interested are:
Hi-Tech (F2, F3, F4, GB3 and Formula regional)
Andretti
A Monaco gruop including a person from HRT and Super Aguri
Panthera (Rich Asian money, want to say Chinese)
an unnamed Swiss outfit
 
New Fag said:
I've heard the teams interested are:
Hi-Tech (F2, F3, F4, GB3 and Formula regional)
Andretti
A Monaco gruop including a person from HRT and Super Aguri
Panthera (Rich Asian money, want to say Chinese)
an unnamed Swiss outfit
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Of these, the team I see having the best shot getting in is Andretti. If that team can't get in, nobody else has no shot of getting past those hurdles because they are easily the most credible of this whole lot. Panthera is the second most likely entry to be in this due to Chinese money being still quite big and F1 desiring to have a global manufacturer base. The rest aren't credible, especially Stefan F1 because it still exists.
 
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