Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

[Bill Elliot]

I really wish trannys would die off so I can use this website normally on my fucking phone. I miss this shit at work.
De Vries did himself a solid. It will be interesting how the rest of the driver market plays out.

 

[Pee Cola]

De Vries did himself a solid. It will be interesting how the rest of the driver market plays out.

There's still no guarantees that he'll get the Williams drive next year, though the fact he drove as if it was his last chance to get an F1 seat (which tbh it probably is) would have to make any team in search of a driver for next year sit up and take notice.

 

[Becky McDonald]

Since the reset ate my last post here...

De Vries' drive was remarkable, but not spectacular. Firstly, were it not for Alonso and Ricciardo's DNFs, he'd have finished 11th at the highest. Second of all, Monza is the track which requires the least downforce in any F1 season. That's how Vettel was able to win it in 2008; the Toro Rosso genuinely had the best set-up that weekend, and had Bourdais not spectacularly bottled it after qualifying 4th, it likely could have been a 1-2 for the team.

 

[New Fag]

We're back baby!

Redbull Porsche deal is dead due to Porsche wanting too much control and supposedly Honda is looking to get back in. Doubt Ford and Hyundai will actually join, but I'd like Ford back.

Latifi out and Williams are waiting till late in the season to see if they can get Sargeant.

Zhou has gotten a one year extension, poor Theo...

Drugovich has signed as reserve driver for Aston Martin. Good move for him.

Ricciardo is rumoured to be joining Mercedes as a Test/Reserve driver, which could be either a good or bad thing. Which means hopefully Mick stays at Haas or they find someone decent and not Hulks or Gio.

I discovered this F1 youtuber, who I think you guys would like.

 

[The Grognard]

I hope this mass password reset helps cull down on the worst this site has so we can keep on one of the better threads on F1 and motorsports in general going.

 

[Coccxys]

Doubt Ford and Hyundai will actually join, but I'd like Ford back.

Hyundai can barely make a road engine that'll last a grand prix distance let alone an F1 engine.

Also I'm back baby, lolcow.email for the win.

 

[The Grognard]

Hyundai these days is pretty comparable to how Toyota was in the early 80's. Better than the reputation of Korean cars would suggest. Plenty enough money to keep a good WRC program going on. Their only issue is that they don't have the level of expertise and talent that Toyota's WRC team has.

 

[Mikoyan]

We're back baby!

Redbull Porsche deal is dead due to Porsche wanting too much control and supposedly Honda is looking to get back in. Doubt Ford and Hyundai will actually join, but I'd like Ford back.

Latifi out and Williams are waiting till late in the season to see if they can get Sargeant.

Zhou has gotten a one year extension, poor Theo...

Drugovich has signed as reserve driver for Aston Martin. Good move for him.

Ricciardo is rumoured to be joining Mercedes as a Test/Reserve driver, which could be either a good or bad thing. Which means hopefully Mick stays at Haas or they find someone decent and not Hulks or Gio.

I discovered this F1 youtuber, who I think you guys would like.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=sTKV3oOvovM

I was wondering a bit about Honda. The RB partnership has been front and center in all their brand-wide advertising over here. I was like "They're not acting like they really want out".

 

[New Fag]

I was wondering a bit about Honda. The RB partnership has been front and center in all their brand-wide advertising over here. I was like "They're not acting like they really want out".

IIRC the old boss decided to leave F1, who was then replaced with a new boss who wanted to stay in F1 and since they're Japanese the new boss didn't change the decision.

 

[Pee Cola]

Hyundai these days is pretty comparable to how Toyota was in the early 80's. Better than the reputation of Korean cars would suggest. Plenty enough money to keep a good WRC program going on. Their only issue is that they don't have the level of expertise and talent that Toyota's WRC team has.

I'm struggling to see why Hyundai would want to enter F1. They're throwing a lot of resources behind EVs and hydrogen vehicle research, and the N division seems to be focused more on WRC and TCR, which is where cars like the i20 N and i30 N come into their own.

In the unlikely event Hyundai enters F1, I could see it being a Toyota-sized shitshow.

 

[Bill Elliot]

We are back and Lewis is still buck broken by the Flying Dutchman

 

[LiveFromNS]

Hey glad to see some regulars are still here, hope the rest trickle in and they have not been lost due to the reset.

Quick snappers from me before we get back to racing this weekend:

F2 + F3 titles decided, Pourchaire seems to be the most talented driver to be screwed and will now most likely never get an F1 drive. There are approx. 50 drivers currently in F2 and F3. At least a good 10 or 12 look like drivers who deserve a shot at F1. At best 3 or 4 might get in to F1 over the next 3 years. That is a lot of talent going to other series and it will be F1's loss that some of these guys will never drive in F1. I expect many more drivers who will be like Pourchaire, on the outside looking in. Like let us suppose that Martins wins the F2 title in 2023. What chance will he have of getting a drive? There just needs to be more teams in F1, end of story.

Indy title went down to wire. Bummed a bit that Marcus didn't win it, but a very competitive year in Indycar and many excellent races. Hoping for a good 2023 season. Surprised that Palou ended up staying at Ganassi. I think he also gets a McLaren test or something so McL are hot on wanting him. But if Piastri and Lando perform well together next year, he won't be in an F1 seat in 2024.

As for F1, it'd be weird for Hulk to return to Haas and Daniel ends up not driving at all. That'd be a bit of a head scratcher wouldn't you think? As for young Mick, unless he bags some serious results not made of luck in the next few races, he may actually be gone from F1. Be strange if so given who his dad is. And also begs the question, if Mick had his dad guiding him in his racing career, like Max and Carlos, would he be in this situation, in danger of losing a seat? MS had a large presence and I often wonder how Mick's career would have gone if Michael was there for him. Whatever the case, he isn't performing well enough on a regular basis and his seat is looking lost sad to say.

Let's hope the site isn't dogpiled on by the men who wear dresses this weekend and we can have an enjoyable "live" discussion during Singapore. Its all over for the title, but 2nd in the WDC will hopefully be a good battle rest of the year. Will we get one more F1.5 driver on the podium the rest of the season? Will Merc/Ham actually go winless? Can Max run the table from here out?

 

[Silhouette]

F2 + F3 titles decided, Pourchaire seems to be the most talented driver to be screwed and will now most likely never get an F1 drive. There are approx. 50 drivers currently in F2 and F3. At least a good 10 or 12 look like drivers who deserve a shot at F1. At best 3 or 4 might get in to F1 over the next 3 years. That is a lot of talent going to other series and it will be F1's loss that some of these guys will never drive in F1.

I wonder if F1 will ever figure out a solution for this situation, maybe a reserve driver series? Although I feel that'd just be kicking the can further down the road and not actually fixing anything.

 

[Lerias]

Speaking of Haas though, I think Kevin Magnussen has been really underperforming lately, not helped by the high speed tracks that were Monza and Spa that hurt the VF-22. He seems to be a magnet for first lap incidents (Canada contact, Hungary contact, Belgium contact, Netherlands excursion, Monza corner cutting) and due to that he either gets orange-black flagged, penaltied, or dragged to dead last due to the incidents.

This is however just an opinion - in any other way I'd love to see him make a REAL viking comeback, or simply just score points more consistently.

 

[Coccxys]

I wonder if F1 will ever figure out a solution for this situation, maybe a reserve driver series? Although I feel that'd just be kicking the can further down the road and not actually fixing anything.

I was in favor of the proposal made a few years back that teams must have a 3rd car and it must be a rookie driver but most of the teams was staunchly against that idea.

Yeah, it just means the rookie only gets 1 year in unless they secure a proper move but it's a year in F1 and if you consistently outscored a team mate then the team would be hard pressed to justify ejecting the rookie.

Though that would pack out the grid significantly, some tracks it's hard enough to get a quality lap in (Singapore is going to have that) with 19 other cars, if that goes up to 29 then it'll be impossible.

In Singapore news it is expected to be the most physically demanding race of this generation of driver's careers. It has always been the most demanding on the calendar but now they're on ground effect aero it's expected to be much more demanding.

 

[Becky McDonald]

I was in favor of the proposal made a few years back that teams must have a 3rd car and it must be a rookie driver but most of the teams was staunchly against that idea.

Yeah, it just means the rookie only gets 1 year in unless they secure a proper move but it's a year in F1 and if you consistently outscored a team mate then the team would be hard pressed to justify ejecting the rookie.

Though that would pack out the grid significantly, some tracks it's hard enough to get a quality lap in (Singapore is going to have that) with 19 other cars, if that goes up to 29 then it'll be impossible.

In Singapore news it is expected to be the most physically demanding race of this generation of driver's careers. It has always been the most demanding on the calendar but now they're on ground effect aero it's expected to be much more demanding.

It could work if it was a similar system to rallying, where a team can only pick certain drivers to award points to. Except in this instance, FP3 would become "Pre-Qualifying", where every driver has an hour to set the fastest possible time they can muster. Teams then have to select the two drivers that are going to partake in the rest of the weekend based on the performance they have set. That way if the #1 driver who's competing for the WDC has a massive crash, they're not eliminated from the race.

 

[Silhouette]

Though that would pack out the grid significantly, some tracks it's hard enough to get a quality lap in (Singapore is going to have that) with 19 other cars, if that goes up to 29 then it'll be impossible.

Yeah, they'd have to re-think how qualifying works entirely if they were to expand significantly beyond the 20 cars. Segmented qualifying would almost certainly have to be brought in.

 

[Coccxys]

It could work if it was a similar system to rallying, where a team can only pick certain drivers to award points to. Except in this instance, FP3 would become "Pre-Qualifying", where every driver has an hour to set the fastest possible time they can muster. Teams then have to select the two drivers that are going to partake in the rest of the weekend based on the performance they have set. That way if the #1 driver who's competing for the WDC has a massive crash, they're not eliminated from the race.

The problem with that is some teams would almost certainly pick their "actual" drivers and the rookie just ends up doing a couple of practices like we already have.

They would have to do some sort of segmented qualifying like split Q1 into two sets of 15 and the bottom 7 of each are eliminated giving 16 in Q2.

But it would make race day hectic with back markers and give teams an extra car's strategy to deal with.

I think the biggest point against it isn't the logistics of how the sport would work and more the expense of building a 3rd car (including the extra upgrades). Plus mechanics to work on it etc. It would help expensive fast and the likes of Williams would probably go under.

I recall they offered the 3rd car being optional and not scoring points as a compromise but the smaller teams didn't want that either because it would give the bigger teams that could afford it a free testbed for running development parts during a race and not losing points if it's way off the pace

In other news we're guaranteed the Hamilton cock sucking for the rest of his career (and probably after).

 

[Becky McDonald]

I see Hamboy is glory-running in FP1 again. Obvious that he is since he's complaining about the car's handling, he was less than 0.1s off of Max, and Russell was about 5 tenths off the pace. Come the race, he probably won't even be on the podium.

 

[The Grognard]

Doing third cars would make most sense if you allow teams to have a maximum of three a year where theirs can be present. They should count for all the usual points so manufacturers would have an incentive to enter them in events that would favor their car. Running them should also be something that would allow you to raise your budget cap. Teams should have the option of choosing where they want to run a third car. Of course, preference should still be given to main entries so if they run out of garage space to have them be present, they won't be allowed to be there.