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Gastly to Alpine to partner Ocon and make an all French team has been floated loads but don't forget they fucking hate each other. They had a massive spat in junior racing that got pretty nasty and personal (including families falling out). I doubt it's a hatchet that would be buried for the sake of the team. They could both try to be professional and may manage it but it would be high tension and would take one incident to cause a mess for Alpine.

Ocon wants Schumacher and is would be nice because mick hasn't really gotten a fair shake with his first season being partnered with an idiot in a car that was never developed. He's has mixed performances this year but it's pretty much his junior year since last season he just trapped round with nothing to do.

God knows what anyone is thinking trying to bring Gio back. He's just meh, no real wow factor there. There are 20 seats on the grid, a load of amazing youngsters in feeder series. Don't block a development drive with Gio. This is another Ferrari cock up because he's Italian, one day they'll lose/fire one of their drivers then realise they have zero prospects.

As for Ricciardo he's good at building a public image and I can see why he is well liked but that is not grounds for getting a seat. I hope he stays because booted from a team a year early is no way for his career to end but his post RBR time has done nothing but damage to his reputation.
 
From the same article:

Why Giovinazzi? He's a Latifi-tier driver at best.

Interesting. Between this, the rumours of Gasly being bought out of his AT contract to make Alpine 100% French and the nice things Otmar has been saying about Ricciardo as of late, it's anyone's guess as to who'll be driving alongside Ocon in 2023.
I hope if Gasly goes to Alpine, Mick will take the AT seat, but recent news indicates Helmut Marko wants...Colton Herta. No disrespect to the guy, he's obviously super talented, but if the FIA bends their own super license rules to give one to the 9th best Indy driver because Liberty desperately wants an American in the series, it proves the whole thing is horseshit and if I was any of the drivers above him in the standings (like Pato O'Ward, who got his own waiver request denied), I'd take it as a personal insult. Bonus points for being a joke if two cases of Drivers Getting A Seat For Being X Nationality screw Mick out of a place in the series completely. I have no idea how you could pick a guy who's had his chance (other than him being Italian and Ferrari being Ferrari) and done nothing with it over a second-year guy who's shown marked improvement in bottom-tier equipment and now has a veteran teammate to learn from instead of a rolling chicane.

Ricciardo is one of those drivers who isn't World Champion material exactly, but who had the potential to grab a title during a power vacuum, if the stars aligned. I depend upon his beaming Aussie grin for my RDA of Vitamin D, so I do have an interest in him remaining in the sport.

Objectively, he's done in F1. There is very little to be gained reputationally, and his stock may decline even further if he hangs on in one of the backfield teams. If he stays, it's because he wants a few more paydays.

Perhaps he can recover his mojo in another series, hopefully not Formula E. Whenever I see a former F1 driver piloting one of those souped-up Mario Karts, I am overwhelmed by the same combination of nausea and pity that I would feel if I went to a strip club and saw my dad preforming in drag.

He has a personality, so a career in punditry or as co-commentator is not beyond reach.

In terms of legacy, he occupies a broad tier of drivers who inhabit the subconscious memory until someone mentions their name and you hear yourself automatically replying - "Yeah, I remember that guy."
He'll probably end up in the #91 rolling around Sonoma some day. Maybe even a chance at becoming this generation's Marcos Ambrose.
 
God, I love Spa. It's one of the best tracks, period. No new track will ever come close to the beauty and thrill of eau rouge or pouhon.
The race this year was pretty neat. It was Hamilton's best chance of taking a win and a podium would have been earned, but he turned into Alonso and got his car wrecked. Imagine if this forces him to replace the engine, that'd be salt on his wounds, especially given that he can only blame himself.

Though credit where credit is due:
He was very humble in his interview during the race, taking full blame and he shot down the question about Alonso's (hilarious) radio comment.
Though how in the fuck do you attempt to overtake on the outside in a corner and then turn in? Must be one hell of a blindspot if it managed to wipe Alonso's presence from Hamilton's memory. I don't get it.

He's already 28, completely shat the bed in FE with zero points finishes and five consecutive retirements (how fucking bad do you have to be to fail in a series filled to the brim with F1 rejects like Vandoorne and Wehrlein?), and honestly doesn't belong in open-wheel racing.
That's abyssmal. FE is such a clownshow, you merely have to stay in the race till the end and you should be able to score a point through sheer chance. With a tiny bit of luck, you'll even get a podium, cause FE is literally just a huge fucking randomizer in terms of track position.
 
FE is such a clownshow, you merely have to stay in the race till the end and you should be able to score a point through sheer chance. With a tiny bit of luck, you'll even get a podium, cause FE is literally just a huge fucking randomizer in terms of track position.
Makes sense that the participation award of motorsport categories hands out participation awards. I'm glad Ricciardo has all but ruled out a move to FE if he doesn't get an F1 seat in 2023.
 
Gastly to Alpine to partner Ocon and make an all French team has been floated loads but don't forget they fucking hate each other. They had a massive spat in junior racing that got pretty nasty and personal (including families falling out). I doubt it's a hatchet that would be buried for the sake of the team. They could both try to be professional and may manage it but it would be high tension and would take one incident to cause a mess for Alpine.'
Ocon is apparently an insufferable human being when he has to interact with other drivers. Has a heartwarming backstory, and made the rare comeback into F1 after a year away, but he never gets along well with other drivers. Just look at his vendetta with Perez, his altercation with Verstappen, and his utter lack of respect for Alonso at this year's Hungary race. I honestly want to see Gasly at Alpine just to see them fight to the death.
I hope if Gasly goes to Alpine, Mick will take the AT seat, but recent news indicates Helmut Marko wants...Colton Herta. No disrespect to the guy, he's obviously super talented, but if the FIA bends their own super license rules to give one to the 9th best Indy driver because Liberty desperately wants an American in the series, it proves the whole thing is horseshit and if I was any of the drivers above him in the standings (like Pato O'Ward, who got his own waiver request denied), I'd take it as a personal insult. Bonus points for being a joke if two cases of Drivers Getting A Seat For Being X Nationality screw Mick out of a place in the series completely.
Genuinely don't know why everyone's floating the idea of IndyCar drivers coming to F1 when they're almost always a disappointment. When was the last successful example? Villeneuve Jr.?
Why abandon the Schumacher name for some Mexican larping as an Irishman?

That's abyssmal. FE is such a clownshow, you merely have to stay in the race till the end and you should be able to score a point through sheer chance. With a tiny bit of luck, you'll even get a podium, cause FE is literally just a huge fucking randomizer in terms of track position.
Makes sense that the participation award of motorsport categories hands out participation awards.
FE is basically the W Series but for men.
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
*Awful camera work*
FWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
*Audible incomprehension of the track layout*
YOU'VE GOT BOOST POWER!
*10 car pileup*
 
Genuinely don't know why everyone's floating the idea of IndyCar drivers coming to F1 when they're almost always a disappointment. When was the last successful example? Villeneuve Jr.?
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Absolute fucking pothead Austin Ogonoski, local autist, questions viewbotting on Formula E, while we're on the subject:
 
Redbull's and Max's domination at Spa was pretty boring and with the new FIA rules that were supposedly pushed by Mercedes, seemingly advantaging Redbull over their rivals. Sheeeshhhhhh

I hope the rest of the races will be a bit more competitive.
 
Redbull's and Max's domination at Spa was pretty boring and with the new FIA rules that were supposedly pushed by Mercedes, seemingly advantaging Redbull over their rivals. Sheeeshhhhhh

I hope the rest of the races will be a bit more competitive.

It was kinda dull. The "easy to follow" cars just mean DRS trains (as many of us said they would) with very little action except a few drs fly bys. Max could have taken an extra Pit stop and still won, from 14th.

That said I'm loving the "wah Max being dominant is so boring" crying from the lewlew fans.

Max may have this wrapped up in Singapore, if not then probably in Japan. The great thing is if he does it before Maxico he has no reason for needing to finish ahead of Checo. Perez winning the Mexican GP would be great and the crowd celebration craziness would be one for the ages.
 
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It was kinda dull. The "easy to follow" cars just mean DRS trains (as many of us said they would) with very little action except a few drs fly bys. Max could have taken an extra Pit stop and still won, from 14th.

That said I'm loving the "wah Max being dominant is so boring" crying from the lewlew fans.

Max may have this wrapped up in Singapore, if not then probably in Japan. The great thing is if he does it before Maxico he has no reason for needing to finish ahead of Checo. Perez winning the Mexican GP would be great and the crowd celebration craziness would be one for the ages.
For me, one of CultLH's funniest arguments is how Lewis and Bottas were "allowed to race", and the few times team orders were used, it was "for the championship" and didn't count because they will never acknowledge they are flaming hypocrites of the highest order.
Bottas scored 10 wins from 101 starts in a car that was either the best or second-best of that year. He was nowhere near the same level as his team-mate.
 
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
*Awful camera work*
FWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
*Audible incomprehension of the track layout*
YOU'VE GOT BOOST POWER!
*10 car pileup*
On top of this, it's on a paid channel that you most likely don't have and the races themselves happen on glorified parking lots, at times that are either quite inconvenient or clash with some other series that makes for better watching. FE only is surviving because FIA says so and the costs aren't high. I genuinely don't know a single person ever who's cared about FE, except in relation on which of the drivers might get a seat in some real series.
 
On top of this, it's on a paid channel that you most likely don't have and the races themselves happen on glorified parking lots, at times that are either quite inconvenient or clash with some other series that makes for better watching. FE only is surviving because FIA says so and the costs aren't high. I genuinely don't know a single person ever who's cared about FE, except in relation on which of the drivers might get a seat in some real series.
The only time I ever hear about it is when there's a 10-shitbox pileup that seems to happen all too often. That's what you get when you're a virtue signaling exercise first and a racing series second.

I know Indy might also have the reputation of the place where careers go to die, but it's at least a fun and competitive series. FE is the WNBA of racing.
 
Redbull's and Max's domination at Spa was pretty boring and with the new FIA rules that were supposedly pushed by Mercedes, seemingly advantaging Redbull over their rivals. Sheeeshhhhhh

I hope the rest of the races will be a bit more competitive.
I'd like to hit on a point there. Apparently, when Lewis' car went airborne, it tripped the G sensor. The commentary team said the Lewis received a warning because he hadn't went to the medical tent.

Now if I'm not mistaken, hasn't that entire team been lockstep in a campaign to talk about how dangerous the bouncing of the cars is on the brain? How it's gonna give you CTE? But the second the driver actually has a quantifiable risk to their brain, they don't go seek medical attention?
 
As for Ricciardo he's good at building a public image and I can see why he is well liked but that is not grounds for getting a seat. I hope he stays because booted from a team a year early is no way for his career to end but his post RBR time has done nothing but damage to his reputation.

I have to disagree some, because he consistently improved and was putting up results that outperformed the car he had at Renault for much of his 2nd year there. He also beat his teammate both years. I have no idea why he regressed so badly at McLaren and can't seem to bounce back, but I don't think he damaged himself with his Renault performance.

His McLaren time has been abysmal, other than his outlier win.
 
Let's be 100% honest, Ricciardo would have finished 4th at best were it not for That Incident, Perez driving uncompetitively, Bottas starting from the back, and Leclerc having major strategy regretti.
I mean, sure, but sometimes, there is also merit in being the one lucky guy that gets into the position to win thanks to the competition fucking up and then being methodocial enough to make it happen.

It's not a huge testament to a driver's talent, but it's still something respectable.

As you might be able to tell, I like Ricciardo a lot. Dude's just such a charismatic guy and anyone that makes Patrick Stewart drink champagne from a sweat-soaked shoe is awesome in my books. He's not the best driver, but I do like him and I'm really sad that his F1 career will end without a champion title.
 
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