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Yup and Albon had a laugh about Alpine too.
Alpine just aren't going to be able to show their faces for the rest of the season are they?
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Yup and Albon had a laugh about Alpine too.
Alpine just aren't going to be able to show their faces for the rest of the season are they?
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It's so eye-rolling seeing grown men posturing on twitter like teenage girls. Senna would beat the shit out of these faggots.
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It is jarring when you see Charles Leclerc playing a video game while dressed in a fucking banana suit and then see the level of seriousness the sport was at ~25 years ago, with Schumacher and Hakkinen or Senna and Prost going at each other's throats.
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Hamilton yet again tries to mimic the black American elite celebs he so desperately wants to be. All of them have a token minority (lol) stake in a sports franchise, so Lewis had to do the same. I wonder if he's ever even held a football. I wouldn't worry about him exerting influence of any kind. He's there for the status symbol and nothing more.
It's important to note these headline grabbing "ownership investments" are typically for a <5% stake; he legitimately has no real role in the franchise's future. And if he tries the same bullshit he does in F1 using the press as a weapon against the actual owners, he'll be jettisoned immediately. They don't need him one bit, and if he doesn't understand that, he'll find out the second he tries his faggotry.
Also, the Broncos current QB is black and a likely Hall of Famer (Russell Wilson), so no "muh racism" angle available.
Kaep is washed, not truly interested in playing, and can't possibly be brought in as a backup due to the circus he creates. He's never suiting up anywhere again unless there's a freakish number of injuries to starting QBs and a coach that worked with him in the past gets beyond desperate. Rumor has it his last stunt tryout with the Raiders was unspeakably bad, which is why no film has been made available from it.
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Fun part is
Let's do some digging
Ah yes the super woke megacorp Walmart, no way they exploit anyone especially not minorities to make their money...
Yeah, those are the people Hamilton is getting in bed with. Sorry wokies but there is no "good" way to get in bed with billionaire old white men according to your own dogma. Hambone is just an uncle Tom.
But hey I'm sure there are some famous African Americans throwing in with the deal right?
Oh, a Republican who was in power for the good old W days of knocking over Middle Eastern nations on a whim. Yeah I hear the lefties love that administration and the forever wars.
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Almost 3 minutes of complete and unadultered pain:
As much as I like Leclerc and Sainz, Ferrari is a shitshow and they deserve absolutely nothing. Their engines are a bit too finicky, I grant them that it's hard to win a title with such fragile engines, but holy fucking shit, has their strategy come to bite them in the ass in many races.
With RB, you always have rather average pit strategies with sudden hints of genius, that allows them to under- or overcut their competition or put pressure on them in different phases of the race.
Ferrari is the exact opposite, many average pit strategies with a few strategy calls so bad and so ridiculously amateurish, that it loses them an uncontested podium or even victory. This entire season, not once did I think to myself "This was a really smart pitstop from Ferrari". They are either bog standard or completely buttfucking moronic.
With RB, you always have rather average pit strategies with sudden hints of genius, that allows them to under- or overcut their competition or put pressure on them in different phases of the race.
Ferrari is the exact opposite, many average pit strategies with a few strategy calls so bad and so ridiculously amateurish, that it loses them an uncontested podium or even victory. This entire season, not once did I think to myself "This was a really smart pitstop from Ferrari". They are either bog standard or completely buttfucking moronic.
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Senna would have gotten his ass beat by 85% of any grid he was on.
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They're putting chemicals in the water turning the freaking men gay. (Seriously)
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Yeah I think an issue is too with how much more of a glimpse we get into a drivers life. It does make me respect some of them a bit more as a few (both RBR drivers, Gasly, DR to name a few) seem to appear a lot less in the goofy shit outside of team promos and more or less do their own thing.
Side note, anyone else find Lando incredibly annoying?
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I hate Lando for stealing Super GT away from me.
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I don't think it's so much a case of Webber fucking over Alpine as someone else approaching Webber to see if Piastri is interested in moving on from Alpine.
Given Webber's long-standing relationship with RBR, I wouldn't be surprised if Piastri has a drive with AT for 2023.
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Lando somehow reminds me of these Minecraft streamers / youtubers that have exploded in popularity in recent years. Something about the way he talks I guess?
We're probably not the target demographic (if you can call it that) for him, but i think that this is what makes him popular with newer / younger fans, because he's 'in' on all the memes and livestreams on twitch.
Not a bad driver tho it seems, i could see him having a Button-like career and lucking into a championship if the stars align.
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This is more of an opinion/speculative piece, but makes mention of a meeting between Piastri, Webber and Zak Brown that was supposedly scheduled just before the French GP. There's also conjecture about whether or not Ricciardo has been thrown under the bus by McLaren.
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Thursday 4th August, 2022 - 9:05am
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The ongoing Formula 1 saga surrounding exactly where Oscar Piastri will drive in 2023 is unlikely to be resolved quickly.
It’s a story that has dominated headlines around the world following the bizarre sequence of announcements in the early hours of Wednesday morning.
Both announcements were preceded by a media conference with Alpine Team Principal Otmar Szafnauer which, rather than clarifying the situation surrounding its 2023 driver line-up (clearly the intent) it instead served only to cloud things further – especially when Szafnauer suggested Fernando Alonso was on a boat in the Greek isles, only for the Spaniard to appear on social media in his native Oviedo (Spain) just hours later.
That highlighted the current disconnect at Alpine, further evidenced by its statement ‘confirming’ Piastri and subsequent denial from the man himself soon after.
At its simplest, the current situation boils down to a dispute with Alpine, which believes it has a valid contract with Piastri, and the fact the Australian (and his management team which includes Mark Webber) disagrees with.
It is strongly suggested that the reason for that disagreement is because he has a contract in place with McLaren.
At not point has it been formally confirmed that the ‘other team’ is in fact McLaren, though there are a number of strong indicators which suggest as much.
Speaking to the press on Wednesday morning, Szafnauer mentioned the team in relation to discussions over a potential loan deal.
Furthermore, Piastri, Webber, and McLaren Racing CEO Zak Brown are known to have had a scheduled dinner meeting in the days prior to the French Grand Prix.
Combined with other factors, such as the fact Daniel Ricciardo has been under pressure for much of the last 12 months, and few other teams have available seats (save Williams, realistically), we can with a certain degree of confidence determine that the other team is indeed McLaren.
Knowing that, moving through the process a step, one of three outcomes is now likely.
The first and simplest is that Piastri is contractually bound to Alpine and will be compelled to compete with the Anglo-French squad in 2023.
Another is that a clause in the Alpine contact has been exercised and the 2021 F2 Champion will instead be free to race for McLaren next season.
A third is that the Alpine contract is enforceable, and the team opts to bench him – an unlikely outcome but a possibility in a sport where the paddock is often referred to as the Piranha Club.
There other important ramifications that will have a lasting legacy for both Piastri and others.
First and foremost, the 21-year-old’s loyalty and honesty has been drawn into question.
Having been largely funded by Alpine (or Renault under its previous guise) there is something of an obligation to the company. It has, after all, played a very significant role in getting him to where he is.
For Piastri to effectively turn his back on that in favour of another opportunity will not have done his reputation any help.
He will have also done himself no favours within Alpine, especially with its senior management; Team Principal Otmar Szafnauer and CEO Laurent Rossi.
Where once he’d have had their unwavering support, can that ever be the case again?
Then comes the question of the mechanics and their loyalty to the Australian, should he remain at Alpine.
While there’s no doubt that all would be continue to work professionally together, a positive and supportive environment in the garage cannot be overstated for a rookie in Formula 1.
Another implication is that the relationship between Daniel Ricciardo and McLaren is far more damaged than first thought.
Publicly, support has been forthcoming from Team Principal Andreas Seidl, and even at points Brown despite who has also shared his criticisms.
Ricciardo himself recently reaffirmed his commitment to the team for the balance of his contract, which runs until 2023.
That the team has seemingly not only held talks with Piastri and Webber about a deal, but appears to have even agreed one, very much contradicts that ‘we support Daniel’ rhetoric proffered by the team.
Given Piastri is seemingly prepared to walk away from a guaranteed race seat with Alpine, whatever was put on the table by McLaren must be significant and serious.
That leaves Ricciardo in a seemingly untenable position, even if his countryman doesn’t end up joining the team as is seemingly preferred.
Clearly Danny Ric no longer has the support of the team’s senior leadership, raising the same questions for the 33-year-old as it does for Piastri with Alpine; regardless of the outcome from here, can the relationship continue?
It’s a remarkable situation which has the potential to significantly, and negatively, impact the careers and reputations of two Australian drivers in one fell swoop.
Alonso’s decision to leave Alpine clearly caught the squad unaware. Had it had an inclination that his departure was a realistic chance, Piastri would have been kept on a much tighter leash.
In turn, more confident and comfortable with his own position, Piastri and Webber would have been less motivated to shop around, safe in the knowledge the future was set.
Instead, until Monday, he faced an uncertain future and was looking to wrap some certainty around his career, seemingly with the good graces of Alpine which was happy to loan him out.
Even still, it begs the question: was Piastri presumptuous in agreeing a deal elsewhere? That is the crux of the matter.
Did Piastri and Webber act appropriately in seemingly agreeing a deal with McLaren, and have they breached contract in doing so?
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EDIT: If the comments section from this article is correct, @Calzaghe might be onto something. I didn't realise that Webber and Alonso were so tight.
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The fall out of Piastri’s F1 contract saga
By Mat CochThursday 4th August, 2022 - 9:05am
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The ongoing Formula 1 saga surrounding exactly where Oscar Piastri will drive in 2023 is unlikely to be resolved quickly.
It’s a story that has dominated headlines around the world following the bizarre sequence of announcements in the early hours of Wednesday morning.
Both announcements were preceded by a media conference with Alpine Team Principal Otmar Szafnauer which, rather than clarifying the situation surrounding its 2023 driver line-up (clearly the intent) it instead served only to cloud things further – especially when Szafnauer suggested Fernando Alonso was on a boat in the Greek isles, only for the Spaniard to appear on social media in his native Oviedo (Spain) just hours later.
That highlighted the current disconnect at Alpine, further evidenced by its statement ‘confirming’ Piastri and subsequent denial from the man himself soon after.
At its simplest, the current situation boils down to a dispute with Alpine, which believes it has a valid contract with Piastri, and the fact the Australian (and his management team which includes Mark Webber) disagrees with.
It is strongly suggested that the reason for that disagreement is because he has a contract in place with McLaren.
At not point has it been formally confirmed that the ‘other team’ is in fact McLaren, though there are a number of strong indicators which suggest as much.
Speaking to the press on Wednesday morning, Szafnauer mentioned the team in relation to discussions over a potential loan deal.
Furthermore, Piastri, Webber, and McLaren Racing CEO Zak Brown are known to have had a scheduled dinner meeting in the days prior to the French Grand Prix.
Combined with other factors, such as the fact Daniel Ricciardo has been under pressure for much of the last 12 months, and few other teams have available seats (save Williams, realistically), we can with a certain degree of confidence determine that the other team is indeed McLaren.
Knowing that, moving through the process a step, one of three outcomes is now likely.
The first and simplest is that Piastri is contractually bound to Alpine and will be compelled to compete with the Anglo-French squad in 2023.
Another is that a clause in the Alpine contact has been exercised and the 2021 F2 Champion will instead be free to race for McLaren next season.
A third is that the Alpine contract is enforceable, and the team opts to bench him – an unlikely outcome but a possibility in a sport where the paddock is often referred to as the Piranha Club.
There other important ramifications that will have a lasting legacy for both Piastri and others.
First and foremost, the 21-year-old’s loyalty and honesty has been drawn into question.
Having been largely funded by Alpine (or Renault under its previous guise) there is something of an obligation to the company. It has, after all, played a very significant role in getting him to where he is.
For Piastri to effectively turn his back on that in favour of another opportunity will not have done his reputation any help.
He will have also done himself no favours within Alpine, especially with its senior management; Team Principal Otmar Szafnauer and CEO Laurent Rossi.
Where once he’d have had their unwavering support, can that ever be the case again?
Then comes the question of the mechanics and their loyalty to the Australian, should he remain at Alpine.
While there’s no doubt that all would be continue to work professionally together, a positive and supportive environment in the garage cannot be overstated for a rookie in Formula 1.
Another implication is that the relationship between Daniel Ricciardo and McLaren is far more damaged than first thought.
Publicly, support has been forthcoming from Team Principal Andreas Seidl, and even at points Brown despite who has also shared his criticisms.
Ricciardo himself recently reaffirmed his commitment to the team for the balance of his contract, which runs until 2023.
That the team has seemingly not only held talks with Piastri and Webber about a deal, but appears to have even agreed one, very much contradicts that ‘we support Daniel’ rhetoric proffered by the team.
Given Piastri is seemingly prepared to walk away from a guaranteed race seat with Alpine, whatever was put on the table by McLaren must be significant and serious.
That leaves Ricciardo in a seemingly untenable position, even if his countryman doesn’t end up joining the team as is seemingly preferred.
Clearly Danny Ric no longer has the support of the team’s senior leadership, raising the same questions for the 33-year-old as it does for Piastri with Alpine; regardless of the outcome from here, can the relationship continue?
It’s a remarkable situation which has the potential to significantly, and negatively, impact the careers and reputations of two Australian drivers in one fell swoop.
Alonso’s decision to leave Alpine clearly caught the squad unaware. Had it had an inclination that his departure was a realistic chance, Piastri would have been kept on a much tighter leash.
In turn, more confident and comfortable with his own position, Piastri and Webber would have been less motivated to shop around, safe in the knowledge the future was set.
Instead, until Monday, he faced an uncertain future and was looking to wrap some certainty around his career, seemingly with the good graces of Alpine which was happy to loan him out.
Even still, it begs the question: was Piastri presumptuous in agreeing a deal elsewhere? That is the crux of the matter.
Did Piastri and Webber act appropriately in seemingly agreeing a deal with McLaren, and have they breached contract in doing so?
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EDIT: If the comments section from this article is correct, @Calzaghe might be onto something. I didn't realise that Webber and Alonso were so tight.
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If it turns out that Alonso told Webber he'd leave Alpine in favor of AM, and Webber made preparations with Alonso so Piastri can move on to McLaren, that's as hilarious as it is serious.
But I feel sorry for whoever drives for Alpine next season, at this point it's perfectly clear that said driver will be, at best, third pick and most likely just get a short-running contract so Alpine can fill a gap until they get someone else they are really confident with.
It's gonna be Ricciardo, isn't it?
But I feel sorry for whoever drives for Alpine next season, at this point it's perfectly clear that said driver will be, at best, third pick and most likely just get a short-running contract so Alpine can fill a gap until they get someone else they are really confident with.
It's gonna be Ricciardo, isn't it?
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At this stage, a switcheroo between Alpine and McLaren for 2023 seems like the least worst option for Alpine. Though whether Alpine would take Ricciardo back after he bailed on them for McLaren remains to be seen.
Either way it's a glorious shitshow.
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Good, honestly. Alpine deserve it, Otmar especially, after how they've been trashing Alonso this season. Poor strategy decisions, poor reliability, just a poor team across the board that have been buoyed by those who fled from Tracing Point.
Never before have I seen a driver fucked quite as hard by his own team since Michael Schumacher's 2012 season with all the convenient mechanical failures.
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From a historical perspective at least, and Ferrari don't seem to be consciously sabotaging Sainz and Leclerc's races, they're just fucking idiots. As per Hanlon's razor, never attribute to malice which can be explained by stupidity.
From Ocon blocking Alonso at this race to his unnecessarily aggressive overtaking at Jeddah, to his flat battery a few races back where he was left stranded on the grid, to that piss-poor safety car strategy at Canada, it just seems to me Alpine are ratfucking Alonso for the hell of it to get him out of the seat for Piastri.
And well, you got what you wanted Alpine. Except now you don't have Piastri, the whole reason you want Alonso gone. So what's the next step of your masterplan?