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Do you mean Magny-Corse? Paul Ricard is the current French GP track with all the blue and red stripes. I agree Magny-Corse is a better track though.
He probably meant Le Castelet which was raced on the last time in 1990. Lap times for those cars were 1 minute and 3o4 seconds so in seesnece the track was becoming way too short for F1 races. Here a video from the race highlights

 
He probably meant Le Castelet which was raced on the last time in 1990. Lap times for those cars were 1 minute and 3o4 seconds so in seesnece the track was becoming way too short for F1 races. Here a video from the race highlights

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hhq9uR4kL88
Paul Ricard, the current stripy circuit, is in Le Castellet so the current French GP is there. Unless we're talking previous, untilke'd circuits there.

In fact the 1990 French GP was indeed held on the previous Paul Ricard layout. So yeah, that circuit no longer exists in that form.
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Edit: found the layouts.
Pre 1986 GP:
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1987-1990 GPs:
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Current French GP:
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Just checked out the layout of Magny-Cours and found out that the first iteration looked like a racetrack for a Super Nintendo game.
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NGL it's kinda cute.

The modern layout is something else though.
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I'd like to see F1 make a return. There's just something that rings way better in my ears when I hear "Magny Cours" rather than Paul Ricard.
 
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Mercedes' Spanish GP F1 upgrades spotted​

The Spanish Grand Prix has been viewed as a critical Formula 1 weekend for Mercedes, with it hoping planned upgrades can help it unlock the potential it believes the W13 has.

Furthermore, with the German car manufacturer having data from pre-season testing when it ran with its launch spec sidepods, the event will also be critical to understanding if it needs to change car concept.

Following a filming day run at Paul Ricard on Wednesday where the team revealed little about its Barcelona plans, the scope of what it is changing for this weekend was revealed on Thursday when George Russell's car arrived at the Barcelona track.

As Mercedes unloaded the W13 from its transporter at the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya, it immediately became obvious that the team had a few new tricks up its sleeve.
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Looking closely at the images, Mercedes has followed the example set by Aston Martin, and which Ferrari and Red Bull have already acted on, by introducing its own 'bib wing' designs.

Sat between the bib and the underside of the chassis is this winglet (red arrow), which also appears to stretch out a little further.

The aerodynamicists are using these wings as a means of better managing the airflow in this region of the car.

The vortices shed by them are being used to manipulate the characteristics of the edge vortices shed by the bib below, which is narrower by regulation this year.
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One of the big talking points of the W13 has been porpoising and the role that the design of its floor plays in the ill effects that ensue.

For Spain, the team has revised the design of the floor's edge, adding a scythe-like edge floor wing that's attached at three points along its length by metal stays.

The shape of the floor alongside the edge wing had also been altered in order to incorporate it, with a more pronounced raised section visible before it bleeds into the design of the floor spat region ahead of the rear tyre. This has also been altered and no longer appears to be as upswept.
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The team is also still looking to reduce the weight of the car by any means necessary too, as whilst the livery tweaks made to the wheel deflectors and rear wing in Miami have been removed, the team has not returned the livery to its pre-Miami status.

It's not a huge weight saving but the removal of some of the paint will help it get closer to the minimum mass that they're allowed to run at.
 
Do you mean Magny-Corse? Paul Ricard is the current French GP track with all the blue and red stripes. I agree Magny-Corse is a better track though.

He probably meant Le Castelet which was raced on the last time in 1990. Lap times for those cars were 1 minute and 3o4 seconds so in seesnece the track was becoming way too short for F1 races. Here a video from the race highlights

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hhq9uR4kL88
Oops, I was thinking of Magny-Corse. Sorry guys
 
Perhaps with Lewis nearing end of his career, the bigwigs are kind of glad he will be gone soon and they now are giving no fucks since we have all these clean cut and nice young drivers coming up and becoming the faces of F1 (Charles, Max, Lando, George, maybe 1 or 2 others) and they will be the future of the sport. None of them will become a huge ass and be overly pompous I think. And with the jewelry thing being a big deal, I am sure the FIA are happy to help push Lewis to cry so he leaves early. At least we all know that it will be sooner than later that we finally don't have to hear Lewis discussed during F1 races. Please let it be 2023 that we never hear of him again.
It would be just like Lewis to take his wins and split as soon as the going got tough. Midfield teams having a veteran driver (champions are even better) is a huge boon to help them develop and keep the competition close. Its giving back to the sport as a whole even if you're not on top anymore.
 
So, from the first day, the talk seems to be on the massive redesign of the sidepods and floor on the AM. It is being referred to as the Green Red Bull.

MAJOR ASTON MARTIN F1 CAR UPGRADE REVEALED BEFORE SPANISH GP​

9 hours ago By Scott Mitchell

Aston Martin’s significantly revised Formula 1 car has broken cover ahead of the Spanish Grand Prix with major visible changes.

The AMR22 has a completely different sidepod design and a new floor as part of a package designed to solve its porpoising problem and help it step out of the lower reaches of F1’s midfield.

Aston Martin is only ahead of Williams in the constructors’ championship with six points from the first five races, with a car that has been over the weight limit and compromised in its mechanical set-up because of how badly the original design (pictured below) suffered from porpoising.
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Team principal Mike Krack had previously hinted upgrades designed to improve its situation would be ready in time for this weekend’s race and that has been confirmed by images on Thursday at Barcelona showing a dramatically different AMR22 in the pitlane.
The most striking change is the elimination of the aggressive ‘twin-floor’ style sidepod, replaced with a more conventional sidepod undercut at the front and a wide, flat top surface that angles down all the way towards the rear tyres.

As a consequence of the new design, the cooling louvres have been repositioned from the top of the sidepod to the back of the monocoque and onto the engine cover.
And the changes are complemented by a new floor with a revised centre section.
This radical revision has been expected since pre-season.
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Driver Sebastian Vettel said in Miami: “We have a big package coming in Barcelona.
“We know that it’s not yet a massive step in terms of performance, so we will see.
“I’m looking forward to the updates.”
 
All the Mercedes engined cars are really struggling to cut down the weight (except the McLaren). I wonder if their engine and/or transmission department has screwed something and made it way too heavy. I think McLaren make their own gearbox and rear suspensionaso that could be the difference.
 
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Lewis Hamilton is 'astonished' by Mohammed ben Sulayem's suggestion that controversial race director Michael Masi could make a return but sources claim the F1 supremo 'simply aims to restore the FIA to its rightful position'​

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  • Mohammed ben Sulayem refused to rule out a return to F1 for Michael Masi
  • Masi was axed as race director after a controversial finish to the 2021 season
  • His decision to allow five cars to un-lap themselves saw Lewis Hamilton lose
  • The Mercedes driver has reacted angrily to Ben Sulayem's comments
Lewis Hamilton has reacted angrily to FIA president Mohammed ben Sulayem's revelation in Sportsmail on Saturday that there may be a way back for sacked race director Michael Masi.

Masi was fired from his Formula One post in February after being held responsible for Hamilton missing out on an eighth world title in Abu Dhabi last year — a dismissal that represented a victory for Mercedes.

But in his first interview since taking up the leadership of world motor sport's governing body, Ben Sulayem said: 'Michael is there and we might use him. We are open to everything.'

Sportsmail understands from a team insider that Hamilton and his nearest advisers were 'astonished' to read the comments and spoke about the situation via urgent phone messages after the story broke.

Hamilton's Mercedes boss Toto Wolff was also furious and made his strong opposition to Masi's rehabilitation known internally.

However, somebody close to the scene told Sportsmail that Ben Sulayem 'does not want a fight' but 'is simply aiming to restore the FIA to its rightful position, nothing more or less.'

Traditionally, the FIA have been one-third of the troika that runs Formula One, alongside the 10 teams and Formula One Management. The FIA draw up the rules and run the races.

These three elements, fighting for their own interests as much as the good of the sport, have often been willing to take out each other's eyeballs with toothpicks in internecine wrangling.

A source said: 'Over the last few years the FIA has been marginalised and Ben Sulayem wants to return it to its old role. He doesn't want anything himself, financially or in any other way. He maybe feels that Toto has got a little ahead of himself. It's not up to Toto to run Formula One.'

Ben Sulayem, a 60-year-old former rally driver from Dubai, has kept in occasional dialogue with Masi — who remains on the FIA payroll and is keen to return to Formula One.

Mercedes declined to comment publicly on Ben Sulayem's comments, pretending that the interview had not registered on their psyche.

Another issue Ben Sulayem brought up was jewellery being worn in the cockpit. Hamilton is the most obvious exponent of the practice and Mercedes sources indicated the Briton would not back down in his desire to wear a nose stud despite the FIA edict.

He faces a fine and accumulating points on his racing licence if he drives with the stud in Monaco at the end of the month, when his exemption to have it removed will have run out.

Mercedes declined to comment publicly on Ben Sulayem's remarks, insisting that the interview had not registered on their or Hamilton's psyche.
And just because of this I want them to do it. Bring Masi back as the 3rd race director. It'll be the FIA's dick slap to Merc's, toTo's and LouLou's faces, and the spice harvesters will be very busy for a long time.
Yeah in an interview he said the FIA has lost too much influence in the 3 party agreement between FOM, FIA and the teams under Todt's leadership. He apparently thinks "some team principals" have gotten too comfy calling the shots and making demands in the sport.

Sounds like he's not here to fuck around and Toto is not going to like what's coming.
As it should be, it's one thing for teams to file complaints for review and influence the direction of the sport in meetings between all partners. It's another to constantly pressure the race direction to get the outcomes they want. Especially when it's clear some have far more influence than others to do so, making the sport even more unbalanced than it already is on skill and technical level.
 
Aston Martin has copied RedBulls sidepods design completly. Just how they copied the 2019 Mercedes for 2020

I doubt it, there was talk about a b-spec AM since forever and 2 months (3 if you count from reveal) from design to implementation is just too quick.

More likely they already had a design like RB and nicked some finishing touches and improvements.

Although if they did steal it whole cloth props to them for the quick turnaround.

Does anyone remember how long it has taken teams to copy stuff in the past?
 
Lance Stroll said that Aston designed two cars for 2022 and they now use basically the other car. Of course RedBull claims that Aston straight out copied their design even claiming that data was downloaded.

On another note Mercedes seems to have really found something. The car doesn't bounce and they are the fastest on the straights. Of course it might be because of the track I haven't seen Ferrari bouncing as well. So maybe they have a small ressurection only to fall of in the coming Monacco Grand Prix
 
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