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Getting major 1995 flashbacks
Have to say i was not excited about these new car regulations but the liveries from the team reveals are looking pretty great.
https://www.racefans.net/2022/02/17...-changes-to-race-control-after-abu-dhabi-row/
FIA confirms replacement of Masi and changes to race control after Abu Dhabi row
Have to say i was not excited about these new car regulations but the liveries from the team reveals are looking pretty great.
https://www.racefans.net/2022/02/17...-changes-to-race-control-after-abu-dhabi-row/
FIA confirms replacement of Masi and changes to race control after Abu Dhabi row
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"I've finally got enough money I can buy my way out of anything. Big
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Well, that's it then. The cry babies got what they wanted. I dislike Masi, don't think he holds a candle to Whiting, no one does. But this is just a hatchet job to please the cry babies and give them a win outside of racing. If Merc and Blowis think this will endear them to anyone but their existing fans they're more delusional than I thought. They've just proven beyond any possible doubt they cannot lose gracefully.
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Ferrari's car is looking fat and has those vent looking things like the AM car.
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tl;dr: "We'd like to announce that we'll offer our anuses for free intercourse to Mercedes, please feel free to use these lowly orifices of ours to pleasure yourself. Use of lube is advised but not mandatory. Yours faithfully, FIA."
Nice. Now let's see how they butcher Safety Car rules. I'll take back some of the things I said about FIA if they actually make the thing Masi did explicitly possible.
That spiel about VAR bullshit is pretty empty. The race director already made decisions by looking at all camera angles, telemetry etc. so what's this other than a pacifier to Lewis?
I hate how Ferrari runs their team, but I love their eye for design.
Check out those sleek lines, that tiny triangular air intake on top, the shape of the nose and how it attaches to the front wing.
It's a work of art. Check out those sidepods, they seem to be shaped kinda like a tub, that's quite fascinating.
If nothing else, the newest Aero-ruleset made the cars look way better than the ones of the previous seasons.
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They won't make what Masi did explicitly possible, that would be too blatant a double standard for them considering they just threw Masi to the wolves. But if they have any fucking balls they'll introduce a rule extending any race in similar conditions by 2 laps, one for unlapping cars and a final lap for motor racing. No safety car finishes and no excuses.
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I'm serious. Just make it explicit how races will end. I know the FIA couldn't bear the ego blow from 'pulling a rule from NASCAR' and they're still in SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY coverup mode about how they didn't listen to Charlie and got Bianchi killed. But just say 'race stops counting x laps from the end and will end on a green flag unless light and weather conditions prevent safe running' and there. Black and white rule that nobody can bitch about or try to ply the directors over.
You need to treat these rich spoiled fucks like children, there can't be any give in the rules or they'll scream.
ETA: I was watching the IMO pretty awful Formula E stuff last night - and they extend the race (it's the FIA so there's an autistic ratio to it) for caution laps. So this isn't even all that out there for FIA-run races.
You need to treat these rich spoiled fucks like children, there can't be any give in the rules or they'll scream.
ETA: I was watching the IMO pretty awful Formula E stuff last night - and they extend the race (it's the FIA so there's an autistic ratio to it) for caution laps. So this isn't even all that out there for FIA-run races.
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One minor issue, well not really but the teams will argue it, no refuelling... Ignore the facts that they always start under-fuelled anyway and you save fuel behind the safety car, every team will say no due to there is no refuelling and they only filled up for the race distance.
Anyway, Ferrari up to some aero dynamic sorcery, I was worried about no sidepod undercut.
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The FIA's reply should be "We understand your concerns, but not our problem. You're in a competition, figure it out. If you run out of gas, though shit. Tell your driver to get out and push the car to the finish line like Brabham did. Fucking pussies."
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I guess the easiest way to avoid a safety-car finish would have been a red flag. You could make a standard rule that if the race only has 3 laps remaining and is still under safety car without the possibility to unlap, you end the race, clear the track and resume racing once everything's clear. Could be a rolling start, too.
You could come up with extending the race, but without refueling, that's going to be hard. You could easily extend the race by a lap or two if you waive post-race fuel checks (meaning the cars don't need to retain a liter of fuel even after the race), but what if it takes even longer? I mean, a race that ends with multiple cars running out of fuel would be a nailbiter, but I think the red-flag thing is the best way to do it.
Though I have to say, the way it panned out last season was perfect, cause it spit in BLOOOOOwis' coffee.
I wonder if that also reduces air resistance for the rear wing or something. Hot air is less dense than cold air, after all.
You could come up with extending the race, but without refueling, that's going to be hard. You could easily extend the race by a lap or two if you waive post-race fuel checks (meaning the cars don't need to retain a liter of fuel even after the race), but what if it takes even longer? I mean, a race that ends with multiple cars running out of fuel would be a nailbiter, but I think the red-flag thing is the best way to do it.
Though I have to say, the way it panned out last season was perfect, cause it spit in BLOOOOOwis' coffee.
That shape apparently directs the hot air from the radiators directly onto the rear wing, to optimize wake and downforce.
I wonder if that also reduces air resistance for the rear wing or something. Hot air is less dense than cold air, after all.
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The inability to say 'fucking pussies' is the core problem here. Putting in or not putting in extra gas is the same gamble as putting on or not putting on that last set of tires, and they are being super whiny about that right now.
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The real problem is that you're essentially setting yourself up for an edge case strategy at the expense of being able to do well in the 99.5 percent of races where the rare edge case doesn't happen. Secondly, the fuel limit that's already in the books will become an issue with tracks where the maximum would still require the odd bit of lift and coast. Thirdly, the regulations require you to have one liter of available fuel in the tank by the end of the race or you will get disqualified. It would just result in a race that nobody actually ends up finishing legally instead.
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We have different viewpoints on this. IMO the rules exist just to make it fair-ish and safe-ish. Not to help the participants know how they should do things. I always considered the 1 liter rule moronic, so as far as I'm concerned it should go. The moment the FIA implemented that they just gave another safety net for the participants. They should be the ones figuring it out, and those that don't should be running out of gas before the finish line like in the old days. But I guess it's a reflection of the nanny world we live in.
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Mercedes boss Toto Wolff praises F1's changes to race director role after Michael Masi's sacking
By Michael DoylePosted 1h ago
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Mercedes Formula 1 team boss Toto Wolff says changes made to the race director role in the wake of Michael Masi sacking are "encouraging".
Key points:
- Toto Wolff says he is happy with the changes made to the race director role
- Mercedes unveiled its new car, the W13, at Silverstone on Friday
- Lewis Hamilton will joined by George Russell in the team's driver line-up
Wolff and Mercedes were critical of the Australian's calls in the closing laps of December's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.
Masi made a controversial decision to allow only the lapped cars between Hamilton, who was leading the race and about to win the championship, and title rival Verstappen who was second, to pass so one final lap could be raced.
The decision went against usual safety car procedures and allowed Verstappen, on fresher tyres, to pass Hamilton to win the grand prix and his first drivers' championship.
Masi was removed as F1 race director on Thursday, with the role being split between Niels Wittich and Eduardo Freitas.
Wolff said at the launch of the new car he was happy with the changes made by the sport's governing body, the FIA, include the race director role being split, and new technology helping decision-making.
"It is encouraging to see that action has been taken," he said.
"There is a much more robust structure now and support structure for the racing director."
Mercedes will field an all-British driver line-up, with Hamilton being joined by former Williams driver George Russell.
The 24-year-old has been part of the Mercedes program for many years, starting as a junior driver.
He said the transition into the team had been smooth which was important in a year that had many regulation changes.
"I think it is going to be a really exciting season for all of us," he said at the car launch.
"There's so much change, there's so much to learn, there's going to be so much development over the course of this season.
"I think from the first race to the last race of the season, there will probably be some drastic changes we see on the cars."
The first race of the 2022 season will be in Bahrain on March 20.
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The most interesting part isn't that Toto seems to have a chubby over Masi's sacking (because that's been obvious since Masi got yeeted earlier this week), but that the only other quote from Mercedes in this article was from Russell. I'm surprised Hambone didn't have anything to say given that he usually never shuts up.
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No F1 driver should go through this again, says Hamilton after Abu Dhabi controversy
Posted on 18th February 2022, 12:44 | Written by Keith Collantine
Lewis Hamilton says no Formula 1 driver should have to go through the same experience he had when a controversial decision by race control led him to lose the world championship on the final lap of the season last year.
The Mercedes driver was speaking in his first press conference in over two months after his defeat in the 2021 season finale at Abu Dhabi, in which Max Verstappen passed him on the final lap after a controversial restart.
The FIA yesterday announced sweeping changes to officiating in F1, including the departure of F1 race director Michael Masi who was behind the disputed call. Hamilton said he considers the changes a first step.
“I think, from yesterday, while we cannot change the past, nothing will ever really be able to change the way I felt at the time and how I feel about the situation,” he said.
“It’s good to see that the FIA are taking steps to make improvements. I think that accountability is key. We have to use this moment to make sure that this never happens to anybody else in this sport ever again.
“Everything that’s been said by the FIA yesterday, I welcome that. We have to make sure that we keep a close eye on and make sure that we actually are seeing those changes and that the rules are being applied fairly and consistently.”
Hamilton’s future was the subject of speculation as he disengaged from social media for several weeks after the race. He said he had not thought of retiring from F1 in response to the controversy, but admitted he often considers his future between seasons.
“At the end of seasons the question is whether you’re willing to commit the time and the effort that it takes to be a world champion. I think a lot of people underestimate what it takes to be a world champion. There are so many moving parts – it’s not just turning up and driving the car.
“So the question is do you want to sacrifice the time, do you believe you can continue to punch at the weight you are punching? That’s a normal mental process for me, but of course this one was compounded by a significant factor.
“I think, ultimately, a sport that I’ve loved in my whole life, there was a moment where I kind of lost a little bit of faith within the system. But I’m generally a very determined person and I’d like to think to myself that while moments like this might define careers, I refuse to let this define mine. So I focused on being the best I can be and coming back stronger.”
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Also, check that front wing out!
Finally, while looking for some stuff unrelated to F1, I came across a digital copy of MotorSport's magazine "Ferrari Collector's Edition-From Race To Road". Updated for 2020. Thought some of you might enjoy it, so see attached PDF.
Posted on 18th February 2022, 12:44 | Written by Keith Collantine
Lewis Hamilton says no Formula 1 driver should have to go through the same experience he had when a controversial decision by race control led him to lose the world championship on the final lap of the season last year.
The Mercedes driver was speaking in his first press conference in over two months after his defeat in the 2021 season finale at Abu Dhabi, in which Max Verstappen passed him on the final lap after a controversial restart.
The FIA yesterday announced sweeping changes to officiating in F1, including the departure of F1 race director Michael Masi who was behind the disputed call. Hamilton said he considers the changes a first step.
“I think, from yesterday, while we cannot change the past, nothing will ever really be able to change the way I felt at the time and how I feel about the situation,” he said.
“It’s good to see that the FIA are taking steps to make improvements. I think that accountability is key. We have to use this moment to make sure that this never happens to anybody else in this sport ever again.
“Everything that’s been said by the FIA yesterday, I welcome that. We have to make sure that we keep a close eye on and make sure that we actually are seeing those changes and that the rules are being applied fairly and consistently.”
Hamilton’s future was the subject of speculation as he disengaged from social media for several weeks after the race. He said he had not thought of retiring from F1 in response to the controversy, but admitted he often considers his future between seasons.
“At the end of seasons the question is whether you’re willing to commit the time and the effort that it takes to be a world champion. I think a lot of people underestimate what it takes to be a world champion. There are so many moving parts – it’s not just turning up and driving the car.
“So the question is do you want to sacrifice the time, do you believe you can continue to punch at the weight you are punching? That’s a normal mental process for me, but of course this one was compounded by a significant factor.
“I think, ultimately, a sport that I’ve loved in my whole life, there was a moment where I kind of lost a little bit of faith within the system. But I’m generally a very determined person and I’d like to think to myself that while moments like this might define careers, I refuse to let this define mine. So I focused on being the best I can be and coming back stronger.”
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Also, check that front wing out!
Finally, while looking for some stuff unrelated to F1, I came across a digital copy of MotorSport's magazine "Ferrari Collector's Edition-From Race To Road". Updated for 2020. Thought some of you might enjoy it, so see attached PDF.
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I see that Lulu is continuing to lose with all the grace of an elephant roller-skating into a greenhouse.
It is unlikely that Russell (who has already demonstrated some prima donna-ish tendencies of his own) will be given the wherewithal to challenge his team mate. I hope to god that, somewhere among all these beautiful new cars, there is a challenger that will curb stomp the Mercedes.
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And here is the exact kind of bullshit I was referencing when I sperged out above on nanny rules creating safety nets for participants like the 1 liter rule. Thank you for demonstrating my point so eloquently, Blowis. It wasn't his fault for not being capable of doing to Max while in a superior car what Sergio did to him for over one lap in an inferior car. It wasn't Merc's fault for not telling him to pit when the safety car came out. It was the nanny system's fault because it didn't protect him and his position.
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The gall on this faggot to claim it's all about others not going through what he went through.
What would that hardship be? Driving for the dominant team for almost a decade and being challenged exactly once in this entire time by someone not in the same class of rocket car?
The only good thing coming out of Mercedes (aside from white smoke after the engine burst) is them switching back to an actual silver-arrow design, putting to rest the Ican'tsneed-livery.
What would that hardship be? Driving for the dominant team for almost a decade and being challenged exactly once in this entire time by someone not in the same class of rocket car?
The only good thing coming out of Mercedes (aside from white smoke after the engine burst) is them switching back to an actual silver-arrow design, putting to rest the Ican'tsneed-livery.
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What you're essentially asking is RNG bullshit that would screw anyone who planned for the normal race's length instead of "oh today we do 2 extra laps because someone hit a wall". In order for this shit to make sense with current cars, you at least are willing to agree that the 1 liter shit should be waived but it would also require re-implementing the option for engine mapping changes specifically so that these cars would have a fuel-saving mode, along with allowing refueling in red-flag conditions. Then there's the problem of "what's the restart?" Is it a standing start or a flying start?