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One of my bigger fears was that all cars would end up very same-y in shape, but with these three we see FIA kept their promise: The strict rules still allow a lot of variation.

Haas has an insanely narrow rear (though the paintjob might conceal a lot of bulk), McLaren got some serious booty, and the lines on the AM are just really wild. Then there's tiny details in the suspension or the intakes of the sidepods.

I do wonder what the slits on top of the AM do and if that might end up being some really clever way to increase downforce. It's gonna be interesting to see if Mercedes has them too.

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When's the FIA report for Abu Dhabi due? I know it's gonna be some appeasement bullshit "mistakes were made" crap, but wouldn't it be nice if FIA went 100% support on the decision?
Frankly, if they don't voice their support for Masi's decision, they are complete retards, since they just open themselves up for even more petty bullshit like what Horner and Wolff did over the past months.
"Masi had little time to make a tough decision, we stand behind his decision. The race director decides how and when to apply the rules." is all it takes, and given that FIA shot down every attempt by Mercedes to intervene before the result was made official and their behaviour thereafter, it is virtually the only course of action.
First time I saw the overhead of the McLaren the paint tricked my brain into thinking it was similar to the AM. The Haas is definitely the most narrow at the rear out of the car's we've seen so far. According to the McLaren reveal analysis from The Race those slats on the Aston Martin are for the radiators. Seems like it would fuck with the aero but I'm not an aerodynamicist so I'm just some guy.

Last I heard the FiA report is due the morning of first practice for the Bahrain GP.
 
According to the McLaren reveal analysis from The Race those slats on the Aston Martin are for the radiators. Seems like it would fuck with the aero but I'm not an aerodynamicist so I'm just some guy.
In the past the intricacies of all those finnicky tiny vortexes, meticulously controlled and directed to gain the most advantage, was mind blowing. So I would not put it past the possible that these slats also produce some neat effect. The intakes themselves are square and the opening area could be slightly bigger, so maybe that setup allows the engine to run cooler (and thus with more power) or it actually diverts some air in a positive way.

The bulge on the rear is also quite interesting.

And on a sidenote, if us random kiwis are having this much conversation about tiny details on the cars, just imagine what every R&D branch of the F1 teams is currently doing. I bet they go over these images with a fine comb and try to figure out the most insane tiny details about the dimensions of these cars and what that might tell them about the setup.
I bet a lot of engineers will have a "Holy shit, why didn't I think of *that*?!" moment when looking at all the other teams and what interesting ways they came up with to get the most of the design.
 
According to the McLaren reveal analysis from The Race those slats on the Aston Martin are for the radiators. Seems like it would fuck with the aero but I'm not an aerodynamicist so I'm just some guy.
Well if the air is coming though the intakes via the radiator and out of those then that would suggest the faster that car the higher the airflow through them. If they are designed to be nice smooth flow until a certain speed then generate vorexes then that could be used to stall out the rear wing. Meaning being able to run higher downforce for corners and a reduction in the drag on straights. Though that's just wild speculation.

There are going to be lots of cleaver solutions to analyse over the season and see which other teams "adopt" quickly. I also suspect we're going to see a hell of a lot of protests and FIA technical directives/memos passed down.
 
The Alpha Tauri launch was pretty underwhelming compared to the events of the others (along with obvious shilling of their very overpriced clothing).

I think the livery is a bit dark and they've lost the white wheels which was a really nice touch last season. The video isn't showing off much else about the car.

 
It's getting interesting AT looks a bit like the middle step between AM and McLaren and McLaren looks like the middle step between AT and Haas.

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The inquest outcome drops today apparently.

ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ON D-DAY FOR FIA’S ABU DHABI F1 INQUEST​

7 hours ago By Scott Mitchell

Today the FIA will present the results of its inquiry into Formula 1’s controversial Abu Dhabi 2021 season finale and the handling of the safety car period that altered the outcome of the race and the world championship.

The review was announced a few days after the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix amid the swell of criticism and close scrutiny of race director Michael Masi’s actions.

Now, two full months later, the governing body is set to reveal its findings and proposals for how F1’s officiating processes will change, at an F1 Commission meeting on Monday.

WHAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED?​

The race in Abu Dhabi appeared to be heading for a finish behind the safety car, which would have left long-time race leader Lewis Hamilton the winner of the grand prix and the championship.

That famously didn’t happen, and the point of the FIA review has been to examine exactly why that was the case and the decision-making processes behind it.

Masi opted to facilitate a one-lap sprint at the end of the race. To do that he only allowed the five lapped cars between Hamilton and Max Verstappen to unlap themselves before the race restart and not the other three lapped cars of Daniel Ricciardo, Sebastian Vettel and Mick Schumacher, having previously indicated that none of the lapped cars would be allowed through at all – which would have put a buffer between Hamilton and Verstappen.

Crucially, he also ignored the rule that states the safety car must come into the pits at the end of the following lap.

This gave Verstappen a chance to attack long-time race leader Lewis Hamilton with a tyre advantage, win the race and the title.

Masi was supported by the FIA stewards in Abu Dhabi when Mercedes protested the results, with the justification that the race director “overriding authority” on the use of the safety car.

His decisions over how to handle the late safety car period came amid intense lobbying from Red Bull, with radio messages from team principal Christian Horner and sporting director Jonathan Wheatley urging Masi to take the steps that he eventually followed.

The phrasing in one of Wheatley’s messages was subsequently repeated by Masi in response to a radio message from Mercedes boss Toto Wolff.

So in short, the FIA’s review should clarify whether the rules were interpreted and applied correctly by Masi, establish the influence Red Bull’s radio messages had on the outcome, and ultimately determine whether or not Masi and the existing officiating structure are up to the task in F1.

Linked to that is the fact new FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem has also asked secretary general for sport Peter Bayer, the new head of single-seater matters for the FIA, for proposals to “review and optimise the organisation of the FIA F1 structure” for 2022.

This, along with any relevant recommended procedural changes, should be presented to the F1 teams on Monday and this afternoon, there’s also expected to be some public confirmation of what’s discussed after the meeting has ended.

WILL MASI BE KEPT ON?​

Last month, the FIA publicly admitted for the first time that Masi could be replaced, and it was already suggested that the race director role would be reimagined.

Bayer said in a surprise interview last month that Masi had done “a super job in many ways” and that the FIA “don’t want to lose him” but admitted, “there is a possibility that there could be a new race director”.

In recent days various F1 drivers have voiced their support for Masi but it is difficult to know what this means. It could mean they are vouching for him to stay as race director with shared responsibilities, that they want him to remain part of the structure in some way – or even that they expect him to be removed and that polite comments are an easy short-term move.

The likeliest outcome for Masi remaining involved is if the race director’s responsibilities are indeed split and the F1 teams approve his continuation with greater support – or if Masi vacates the race director role and takes one of the newly devoted positions, such as safety delegate.

WHAT ELSE COULD CHANGE?​

There will likely be plenty of regulatory and procedural amendments as a result of the FIA’s review.

It will surely cement a planned move to stop senior team figures from being able to speak to the race director during grands prix, as happened in Abu Dhabi at a crunch moment.

And it could establish the need to formalise how to ensure a green flag finish, such as incorporating a provision such as ‘in case of a safety car incident in the last X% of the race, a red flag and restart is required’ into the rulebook.

One part of the review that was meant to be an important factor was a consultation with all the drivers, although it is unclear if all 20 have indeed been consulted as those that have commented in recent days have done so vaguely.

However, there was unanimity across the grid in 2021 that the officiating did need to improve – which could mean changes to the stewarding process (with talk of a remote stewarding set-up to support those at the track) and potentially things like the licence penalty point system (which has descended into drivers picking up points for minor offences).

IS HAMILTON’S FUTURE RESOLVED?​

Part of the fallout from Abu Dhabi has been the open question over Hamilton’s F1 future.

His re-emergence into the public eye, return to training and the Mercedes factory – not to mention the fact Mercedes has confirmed Hamilton will be part of the W13’s launch next week – are all obvious indicators that Hamilton is indeed racing again this season.

However, this may not quite be a foregone conclusion. It stands to reason that Hamilton would need to prepare for the season as normal so that if the FIA’s inquiry has a satisfactory resolution, he is ready for the new campaign.

That leaves the door open for Hamilton to walk away still. Although whether he would do that on the eve of the season, leaving Mercedes in need of a late replacement, seems unlikely.

WHAT’S AT STAKE HERE?​

In short, the FIA’s integrity and the confidence that F1’s officiating set-up is robust and fair.

Whatever is presented to the F1 Commission will need to be approved and then rubber-stamped next month by the FIA World Motor Sport Council on March 18.

That suggests the situation will not be entirely resolved until the eve of the 2022 season in Bahrain, but F1’s key figures should know today whether or not the right moves are being made to finally draw a line under the saga.

And if the FIA follows its recent trend, there should be a public update of some kind as well, which would help the transparency that F1’s rulemakers sorely need to improve.

“It’s clear what happened in Abu Dhabi was very controversial,” says McLaren team boss Andreas Seidl. “It was not good for the sport.

“Hopefully, we can close this topic with a good analysis from the FIA, with some good steps of how we can improve for the future.”
 
Part of the fallout from Abu Dhabi has been the open question over Hamilton’s F1 future.

His re-emergence into the public eye, return to training and the Mercedes factory – not to mention the fact Mercedes has confirmed Hamilton will be part of the W13’s launch next week – are all obvious indicators that Hamilton is indeed racing again this season.

However, this may not quite be a foregone conclusion. It stands to reason that Hamilton would need to prepare for the season as normal so that if the FIA’s inquiry has a satisfactory resolution, he is ready for the new campaign.

That leaves the door open for Hamilton to walk away still. Although whether he would do that on the eve of the season, leaving Mercedes in need of a late replacement, seems unlikely.

That would be the dick move of all dick moves. They even say "he needs to prepare for the season..." well if he bails what about his replacement? Do they not need to prepare?

I mean we all know and have known all along he ain't going anywhere (except in our dreams) but if he were to flounce off after eating up mercedes' preseason prep time I hop they sue him back to a shitty bedsit in Stevenage,

News out of the commission about the sprint races:
The Sprint events will be:

  • Emilia Romagna Grand Prix
  • Austrian Grand Prix
  • Brazilian Grand Prix
The format changes will include:

  • Change of official session name from Sprint Qualifying to Sprint
  • Awarding World Championship points for the top eight as follows:
    • 1st – 8 points
    • 2nd – 7 points
    • 3rd – 6 points
    • 4th – 5 points
    • 5th – 4 points
    • 6th – 3 points
    • 7th – 2 points
    • 8th – 1 point
  • Awarding Pole Position for the Grand Prix to the fastest driver in Qualifying on Friday
Reduced it to 3 as some teams refusing to agree to 6 without a cost cap increase. Giving points further down so its worth going for it but I hope it doesn't have too large an impact on the championship standings. Also Friday is Qualifying now and the fastest starts pole rather than the sprint setting the grid.

Some changes in points by race distance following from the Spa non-event too
Following the weather-affected 2021 FIA Formula 1 Belgian Grand Prix, the Commission approved proposed updates to the Sporting Regulations as follows:

  • No points will be awarded unless a minimum of two laps have been completed by the leader without a Safety Car and/or Virtual Safety Car intervention.
  • If the leader has completed more than two laps but less than 25% of the scheduled race distance, the top five finishers will be awarded points as follows:
    • 1st – 6 points
    • 2nd – 4 points
    • 3rd – 3 points
    • 4th – 2 points
    • 5th – 1 point
  • If the leader has completed 25% but less than 50% of the scheduled race distance, points will be awarded as follows:
    • 1st – 13 points
    • 2nd – 10 points
    • 3rd – 8 points
    • 4th – 6 points
    • 5th – 5 point
    • 6th – 4 points
    • 7th – 3 points
    • 8th – 2 points
    • 9th – 1 point
  • If the leader has completed 50% but less than 75% of the scheduled race distance, points will be awarded as follows:
    • 1st – 19 points
    • 2nd – 14 points
    • 3rd – 12 points
    • 4th – 9 points
    • 5th – 8 point
    • 6th – 6 points
    • 7th – 5 points
    • 8th – 3 points
    • 9th – 2 points
    • 10th – 1 point

So if they don't actually do any racing then no points, then tiered points depending how far they've gone. No more half points anymore.
 
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Jeez, all kinds of different points permutations depending on distance. Hope that NEVER comes into play! At least the stupid 1/2 point seems gone now!

As for the sprint stuff, I don't get it completely. So, Friday, fastest driver in Q has pole for Sunday GP. Ok. Is the rest of the grid then determined in Friday Q too? I assume so.

But if that is the case, then how is the grid formed for the Sat Sprint? Are they going to do a reverse Top 8 or 10 of the Q results? Or does Friday Q set both the Sprint and GP grids? Or does the result of the Sat Sprint set the grid for GP on Sunday, except for pole as the winner in Friday Q automatically gets that? I assume these finer details weren't revealed yet @Coccxys?
 
But if that is the case, then how is the grid formed for the Sat Sprint? Are they going to do a reverse Top 8 or 10 of the Q results? Or does Friday Q set both the Sprint and GP grids? Or does the result of the Sat Sprint set the grid for GP on Sunday, except for pole as the winner in Friday Q automatically gets that? I assume these finer details weren't revealed yet @Coccxys?

Same as last year, grid is results of the sprint. Friday's pole is only for statistics.

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Mercedes is just preparing their media Blitz about their downtrodden CHAMPION OF THE HEARTS overcoming his DARKEST HOUR or some self-serving self-agrandizing bullshit.

As for the Adu Dhabi thing, I expect some really vague wishywashy spiel about how there were things left unclear and now FIA addresses them, so a few rules get rewritten/clarified, maybe they throw Masi under the bus.
I still think they should go down the route of "Here's the rules, we've now made unmistakenly clear that the race director has full discretion and can apply rules as he sees fit. Masi did nothing wrong, fucking deal with it, you Kraut bastards."
But we all know they won't.
It's getting interesting AT looks a bit like the middle step between AM and McLaren and McLaren looks like the middle step between AT and Haas.

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Didn't watch the AT reveal, there's a 3 minute video on YT that I started to watch, where some weird diamond thing morphs into people and a car and then things go through a stargate to reveal some black chick and a guy in an exceedingly gay scarf or some shit, so I didn't watch it through to see their car. Guess I'll wait for the first race to find out what their car looks like in detail.

The photo of the AT above is really interesting, the front wing seems to be only made up of 2 (instead of 4) pieces. I wonder if this is just their presentation-design and their actual race design will look different.

I'd laugh my fucking ass off, if the teams went with presentation cars that feature design features that turned out to be dead-ends.
Like AM has those slits on the top, cause at some point they tried to see if that's an advantage, found out it isn't, yet put them on their display model just for shits and giggles to make someone in another team go "Holy shit, what is that, let's analyze this to see if that's actually better than what we made!".
 
The Alpha Tauri launch was pretty underwhelming compared to the events of the others (along with obvious shilling of their very overpriced clothing).

I think the livery is a bit dark and they've lost the white wheels which was a really nice touch last season. The video isn't showing off much else about the car.

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If this livery were black and white instead of grey and white it would be killer. Like the AT01 livery...even though it was actually super dark blue, it had a stunning contrast. That was the best, and unfortunately alpha tauri liveries have been declining since then.
 
Everyone ready for the pinnacle of "Dutch man bad" tablod shit from the British sporting media?

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Oh wow that's a big thing if true, which engineers have said this, what's the source on this? It is all of them since it implies it is, maybe some sort of engineers' accosiation?

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So they want Vestappen stripped of the title and Masi fired? Definitely need a source here, maybe some specific which "engineers" since there are quite a few in F1.

Then it goes on a complete retelling of the events of the last GP complete with the usual biases, I'm omitting it because we've already seen it a million times.

Then finally, a source all this is coming from
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William motherfucking Storey? Really? What that guy says is somehow worth it's own story? Do you actually know the first thing about F1 if you think the founder of Rich Energy is reliable in the slightest? Especially when he's talking about a Red Bull driver with his fixation on his much much larger and more sucessful "competitor"? Wow, k then.


Also lewlew is getting his "good little ally" pat on the head from globohomo for his stunning and brave helmet design that single handedly fixed every problem the gays have ever experienced in the middle East.
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Everyone ready for the pinnacle of "Dutch man bad" tablod shit from the British sporting media?

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Oh wow that's a big thing if true, which engineers have said this, what's the source on this? It is all of them since it implies it is, maybe some sort of engineers' accosiation?

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So they want Vestappen stripped of the title and Masi fired? Definitely need a source here, maybe some specific which "engineers" since there are quite a few in F1.

Then it goes on a complete retelling of the events of the last GP complete with the usual biases, I'm omitting it because we've already seen it a million times.

Then finally, a source all this is coming from
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William motherfucking Storey? Really? What that guy says is somehow worth it's own story? Do you actually know the first thing about F1 if you think the founder of Rich Energy is reliable in the slightest? Especially when he's talking about a Red Bull driver with his fixation on his much much larger and more sucessful "competitor"? Wow, k then.


Also lewlew is getting his "good little ally" pat on the head from globohomo for his stunning and brave helmet design that single handedly fixed every problem the gays have ever experienced in the middle East.
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I'm not sure I have a reaction image laughing hard enough to represent asking William fucking Storey his opinion on anything not involving scams.

The helmet I'm ambivalent on. Yeah, I get it, but it's the first time one of these "athlete protests" actually went against the principles of the (middle eastern) promoters. Though he'd have to get a Free Xinjiang helmet to actually get my respect.
 
Another top down to add to the comparison

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That is a thing of beauty, I really like the new paint job. The shape of the nose reminds me of the 90s too.
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In other news British sports fans are the fucking worst (and I say this as a Brit)
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I'm pretty sure the top pic is of the car from the reveal which was not the actual car, which took to the track. Supposedly the new Williams is 'radically' skinny in the side pod area with a big airbox. Also that dark blue looks amazing.

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Also Russell has ditched the bright red lid for what looks like boring corpo fashion.
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Possible Ferrari leak
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Another top down to add to the comparison

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That is a thing of beauty, I really like the new paint job. The shape of the nose reminds me of the 90s too.
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In other news British sports fans are the fucking worst (and I say this as a Brit)
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That's a really nice looking blue. I also like the shape in general, but that super narrow rear combined with that round nose. That's perfection.
As an AM fan, I hate to say it, but that Williams is something else.

that ferrti looks short and fat, hope its quick
Yet one more car with small slats on top.
Also, while most cars featured intakes reminiscent of the ones on the FIA dummy car (Am had square holes), the Ferrari seems to feature really narrow and wide ones. Interesting.

Again, slats on the top... also check out that center piece of front wing allow air to pass under the nose and the shape of the uppermost flap.
Cool stuff. Every car has a tiny detail that it does in other ways than others so far. I really like it.

Edit: Also looking at that paintjob to obscure the car's shape looking like one of those magic eye pictures that you have to look at cross eyed to see some 3D shape popping up gave me this stupid idea that if you do that, you'll see Kimi with a shit-eating grin in full 3D.
 
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