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Naturally, what I meant was that if DaRuleBook™ was applied properly, as everyone is dilating about, then the standings wouldn't change due to that corner skip incurring a time penalty and then grid bunching up.
Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?
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It's been dodgy steward calls all season long in that regard with most going Hamilton's way but yes if they actually followed the rules on that then Vestappen would have won.
I find the argument "he gave back the advantage" to be bullshit. Not only was he further ahead after that but he maintained a place specifically by going off track. The advantage was not being overtaken.
The stewards have made some suspect calls and even said some suspect things (one of them encouraging mercedes to challenge the majority ruling for example). The thing everyone seems to be mixing up is Masi is not a steward nor does he have any say in those decisions.
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If you take a shortcut or leave the track to make a corner and gain a lasting advantage, you need to give that advantage back, but FIA is very transparent about going soft on incidents in the first lap, cause in most situations its better to go soft on people not making a corner instead of forcing them to attempt to make the corner and end up crashing into someone.
That being said, in the last race, Max went into the corner on a very aggressive line, he braked late and just barely made it, but had Hamilton attempted to stay on track and alongside Verstappen, they would have crashed. As long as Hamilton attempted to stay alongside without crashing, he had to go wide.
The stewards reasoned that Max pushed Hamilton off the track and when Hamilton slowed down a little to give back the advantage (of being ahead a few seconds) it was deemed sufficient by FIA. IE: Hamilton's advantage was not winning back his position but rather just a miniscule amount of time in the lead according to FIA.
I think this was a compromise between Max and Lewis, since Max went into the corner very aggressively and Lewis took advantage of the shortcut and it wasn't a stellar moment for either driver.
Ultimately for the race, it didn't mean that much, since Hamilton was a lot quicker than Verstappen throughout the race anyway. Though Hamilton would have had to get past Verstappen again and that could have gone badly. If Verstappen crashes out Hamilton, that could have ended up in a '97 style full season disqualification and that would have been terrible.
So even though I disagree with the stewards and think Hamilton should have given the place back, I think it was better this way than to swap places again and end up with a crash between the two title contenders the next lap.
It's just pure melodrama bullshit. The guy will be back next season, it's just a bit of song and dance to play the disillusioned victim card. I genuinely hope someone interviews him and Lewis goes off the rails accusing FIA/Masi of racism or saying something so hostile and dumb that FIA revokes his super-license for damaging the brand.
His fans moan about how much of a sportsman he is, but I don't see it and this is just icing on the cake. It's the most petty, most childish behaviour anyone can put on display. A true sportsman would shake hands with Verstappen on his title and move on to next year, Hamilton really can't deal with this. I wonder how much of a pain he was to his team when Rosberg won the title.
If Hamilton left in a tardrage, Russel's reaction would be something like this, I presume:
"Oh no, this is so terrible!" he says, walking out the room and going full shit eating grin cause he's backed by the best team and their new star driver instead of a waterboy to BLOOwis...
Edit: JFC. I read the huff piece about Wolff saying it's uncertain that Lewlew will come back to the sport. Fuck off mate. They make it sound like they got raped by Masi in front of a howling crowd of Verstappen fanboys chanting SUPER SUPER MAX MAX MAX as it happened.
I already said that Mercedes look like sore loser clowns, but this "he might not come back next season" bullshit is so much worse. I no longer have any respect for these assholes at all. It's even worse when you consider that this is just a publicity stunt.
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I think I just found a more prima donna sport than basketball. Selective rule implementation (seems like it's broken all the time) coupled with lots of crying from supposedly top talent.
Nonetheless, informative post.
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I mean, in general trying to be a bit more soft to avoid potentially race-interrupting accidents is not that bad of an idea, it's very crowded at the start of a race... but it did lead to some really questionable moments. Alonso deliberately abused this handling of the rules by intentionally overshooting a corner, going through the run-off area and returning to track. Since this allowed him to brake a lot later than the other drivers, he overtook a couple of them in the braking zone, shot through the run-off area and re-entered the track. Technically, since he overtook the other cars before the corner, he did not gain a lasting advantage in the corner itself, therefore it was legal.
Alonso did this in protest, since he had been criticising this way of handling things in the past, but since nothing ever happened, he decided to do a more public show of what the issue is.
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It legit would be the funniest bitch move for Hamilton to declare he has left the sport over something like this when the guy's already in the best possible position to get that 8th title he so covets. All he'd do by leaving is to be a laughing stock of the non-anglosphere F1 world as the biggest little bitch to ever be part of the sport who only got his titles because Merc has a lasting technical advantage from 2014 to now that's ranged from noticeably faster than the rest of the grid to F-Zero GX master mode AI fast.
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Hamilton fans being as classless and clueless as we've come to expect on an article about latiffi getting abuse and threats online:
Seriously doesn't compute that king nigger could just lose and half of them prove they don't have the slightest idea about F1 in the process.
Seriously doesn't compute that king nigger could just lose and half of them prove they don't have the slightest idea about F1 in the process.
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A driver for a Mercedes affiliated team crashes and they crow about foul play from RB. Just goes to show how little they understand about the sport. Again I am grateful this wasn't an AT crashing, there'd be even more of these fuckers.
Frankly, I'd have an easier time claiming this was Mercedes' doing to enforce a safety car that'll cover the last few laps up to the checkered flag, since they might have feared their old tyres might blow out from stress.
Also callout to the guy going "Yeah, Latifi's getting some bad heat, but just imagine how it must feel for Hamilton every race!" like that stupid fucking asshat is greeted with KKK-tards burning crosses in the pitlane every time he comes to a new circuit. These faggots are high on their own farts.
Frankly, I'd have an easier time claiming this was Mercedes' doing to enforce a safety car that'll cover the last few laps up to the checkered flag, since they might have feared their old tyres might blow out from stress.
Also callout to the guy going "Yeah, Latifi's getting some bad heat, but just imagine how it must feel for Hamilton every race!" like that stupid fucking asshat is greeted with KKK-tards burning crosses in the pitlane every time he comes to a new circuit. These faggots are high on their own farts.
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Merc needs to fire both drivers and the team management over this. the bitching looks terrible...
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The problem is Toto is 1/3 owner of the team (along with owning a stake in Williams and Aston Martin), Ineos is 1/3 owner and Mercedes is 1/3 owner so would be tough to do. The guy used to be an investment banker in Switzerland so is mega rich (estimated net worth is $450 million), hence owning all that shit.
The rumour when they were taking ages to sort Hamilton's contract was that while Toto and Ineos want to felate some black dick Mercedes is less keen and really want Russell in the car meaning Lewis' demand to have a say in team mates was being blocked by Merc while the other two wanted to give it to him.
If that is the case then having Russel in the has the potential for some serious shit to go down if some owners love Hamilton and others love Russel as any dodgy politicking will start an internal conflict.
That said surely mercedes have some get out in their contract since its their brand that has the potential to really suffer.
The rumour when they were taking ages to sort Hamilton's contract was that while Toto and Ineos want to felate some black dick Mercedes is less keen and really want Russell in the car meaning Lewis' demand to have a say in team mates was being blocked by Merc while the other two wanted to give it to him.
If that is the case then having Russel in the has the potential for some serious shit to go down if some owners love Hamilton and others love Russel as any dodgy politicking will start an internal conflict.
That said surely mercedes have some get out in their contract since its their brand that has the potential to really suffer.
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Speaking of fia inconsistency and blown calls this season, I just want to remind you that this went by with no punishment
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Hamilton's career arc is directly analogous to Lebron's. Going from likable young talent, to sport-defining star, to soulless rich douchebag that decides he is bigger than the sport.
It's my strong feeling that Hamilton absolutely strives to be LeBron and models everything he does after him. I think he looks at LeBron and Serena Williams, and sees what he desperately wants to be. Much like those two, he completely lost touch with reality as fame & success went to his head.
Also like Serena and LeBron, he's on the decline and mostly serves as an egotistical nuisance to the sport. The sooner he fucks off, the better.
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Jesus, and I thought Ferrari and McLaren used to be bitchy at the height of their rivalry. They were positively sportsmanlike and measured compared to MB. Toto makes Ron Dennis and Jean Todt look like absolute gentlemen.
Drivers can be spoiled primadonas at the best of times, but everyone pales in comparison to Xir Hambone. I don't think any of the old drivers would react like this, they'd say "just you wait for next year, I'll have my revenge" instead of mopping and threatening to take their ball and go home. I was never a Schumacher fan (I'm Team Papaya all the way), but I certainly hope Xir Hambone never manages to surpass his championship record. To have such an over-privileged, arrogant, whiny baby as the pinnacle of the sport would be such a disservice to everyone involved in the sport.
Drivers can be spoiled primadonas at the best of times, but everyone pales in comparison to Xir Hambone. I don't think any of the old drivers would react like this, they'd say "just you wait for next year, I'll have my revenge" instead of mopping and threatening to take their ball and go home. I was never a Schumacher fan (I'm Team Papaya all the way), but I certainly hope Xir Hambone never manages to surpass his championship record. To have such an over-privileged, arrogant, whiny baby as the pinnacle of the sport would be such a disservice to everyone involved in the sport.
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Almost being overtaken by a Williams is punishment enough...
Russell hitting Bottas on the helmet, bad form but a F1 helmet has to endure a lot.
Edit: I can't stop laughing.
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I think in this case the RC did decide to not punish Hamilton becasue he prevented a crash (and a crash would have been likely) Max firast divebomb was really too optimistic even if he stayed on track. then again Hamilton isn't exactly an angel when it comes to push other drivers of the track *cough* United States GP *cough* In the end Max is a deserved champion because let's notr forget what happened in Imola (Hamilton gewtting an entire lap back) Silverstone (well duh) and the Hungaroring (Order 66 Valteri). If we combine those 3 races Max would most likely have been the champion in Quatar or Djidda already
Oh and I just remembered: Hamitlon has two strikes. would the "not attending an official F1 ceremony" count as a thrid strike? then his first race in 2022 will start with a grid penalty
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Proof number 7.984 that Hamilton fans are the worst.Edit: I can't stop laughing.
As funny as that would be, I guess it'll be a fine they issue.
But if they decided to hand him a grid penalty now and this pushes him over the edge to leave the sport... ah. A man can dream.
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Do black people actually like things or do they just attach themselves to any black athlete who succeeds and live off their successes to compensate for something.
Also lol at Latifi being paid to crash. They do know who he is and what sport he's in, yes? You'd need a hell of a bribe just to turn his head.
Hamilton, whether by accident or design, is 100% a product for the American market. He doesn't really represent F1 anymore, he's a personal brand that made its name as a driver in some European racing series. I don't know what he'll do post-F1 but I am certain he could go to LA and easily live out some kind of influencer life if he wanted to. And let's not pretend race doesn't play a part in it.
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There is something oddly poetic about him turning his career as a racer to something influencer like, where his race comes into play.
I expect a blog or books that tell the tale of how he singlehandedly, without any support, fought against the racism in F1, how he had to stand up for POCs in sports all across the globe and how FIA, his team and everyone watching the sport always let him know that his blackness is shattering their privileges. You know. Horseshit.
Regarding his latest publicity stunt, I wonder if he expects FIA to crawl at his feet, begging him to not leave the sport or something. Narcisits like this clown often overestimate their own value.
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Its not surprising Mercedes abandoned their appeal efforts because it was never going to succeed and I believe they knew that, as did their QC on balance
Superficially they made a better than normal attempt at having a little humility and grace in losing on the day even if it wasn't convincing to everyone at the time . Hamilton's over the team radio suggesting its all manipulated ie fixed , was a better indication of his actual state of mind
He's an exceptional driver in many respects, but he's also a diva who appears souless and graceless even with 7 titles , most of those being predominantly down to Mercedes, and has pocketed a large wedge of cash along the way despite competing with nobody much for several years
He was whining at McLaren when they weren't a first racing team anymore and he saw his potential titles slipping away . He's still whining now with a fair number of his 7 titles gifted to him
Hamilton may take his ball away next season says Toto . Personally I wouldn't be at all concerned and I hope he takes Toto with him if so but that isn't going to happen either . Toto should have taken advice before releasing that poor me diatribe . They lost . They were convinced they had won and the safety car would guide them home to their trophy It didn't.
Toto and the team are in danger of losing more than a world drivers championship ( they won the constructors They are looking like sore losers to many other than their die hard fans. The crowd roared as max overtook Hamilton , perhaps that was fixed too.
I hope McLaren and yes even Ferrari can compete at the top next year it would make the sport more interesting
rather just filling up the grid with a vague hope of the odd podium if it rains badly .
Superficially they made a better than normal attempt at having a little humility and grace in losing on the day even if it wasn't convincing to everyone at the time . Hamilton's over the team radio suggesting its all manipulated ie fixed , was a better indication of his actual state of mind
He's an exceptional driver in many respects, but he's also a diva who appears souless and graceless even with 7 titles , most of those being predominantly down to Mercedes, and has pocketed a large wedge of cash along the way despite competing with nobody much for several years
He was whining at McLaren when they weren't a first racing team anymore and he saw his potential titles slipping away . He's still whining now with a fair number of his 7 titles gifted to him
Hamilton may take his ball away next season says Toto . Personally I wouldn't be at all concerned and I hope he takes Toto with him if so but that isn't going to happen either . Toto should have taken advice before releasing that poor me diatribe . They lost . They were convinced they had won and the safety car would guide them home to their trophy It didn't.
Toto and the team are in danger of losing more than a world drivers championship ( they won the constructors They are looking like sore losers to many other than their die hard fans. The crowd roared as max overtook Hamilton , perhaps that was fixed too.
I hope McLaren and yes even Ferrari can compete at the top next year it would make the sport more interesting
rather just filling up the grid with a vague hope of the odd podium if it rains badly .