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They look a bit too chunky on this spec car. Hopefully they fit in better with the '22 cars. Hopefully at least one teams goes with trying to decorate them a bit, the plane black steelies look doesn't go well with an F1 car
I don't dig the look myself, the tyres look an aweful lot like regular street tyres... but I think the actual race tyres next year will have a sort of aerodynamic cover to form a flat surface. That will look pretty neat, I guess.

On your knees for I am SIR LEWIS HAMILTON.
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What a fucking joke.
"I am getting oppressed for my skin color and I don't have any privileges!"
- A guy who got millions of dollars and a knighthood for driving a car others made for him.

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Lewis fans: Max doesn't deserve to win the championship.

Reality:
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I did it though, I found an article that both Hamilton and Vestappen fans agree on:
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Every single comment I've seen is calling Bourdais a dumb cunt like the talentless fagot he clearly is.

Every single person with even a passing knowledge of F1 should be hailing Perez as an absolute legend for that defensive job he did for Max. That defence job was a major component of that win.

Since the introduction of DRS and tyres that just fall apart we've really missed out on seeing such amazing defensive driving as that.
 
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FIA launches investigation into Abu Dhabi F1 drama
By Mat Coch
Thursday 16th December, 2021 - 10:10am
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The FIA is investigating the controversial Abu Dhabi GP finale

Motorsport’s world governing body has announced it will launch a detailed analysis into the circumstances surrounding the climax of the Formula 1 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

Outgoing FIA President Jean Todt has proposed to the World Motor Sport Council that a “detailed analysis and clarification exercise” now be carried out.

The final laps of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix have been shrouded with controversy, with outrage primarily directed at race director Michael Masi and his decision to allow the race resume with one lap remaining.

Specifically, the way Masi released some – but not all – of the lapped traffic, and also the timing of which he released them, has been questioned.

Indeed, it is on that point, ostensibly covered by Article 48.12 of the sporting regulations, that Mercedes submitted a protest on Sunday evening.

That was dismissed, with the constructors’ world championship winning operation almost immediately announcing its intent to appeal.

In doing so, it began a 96-hour countdown to formally appeal, with that window set to close in the early hours (AEDT) of Friday morning.

Recognising the need to clarify the situation, the FIA will now fully investigate the issue.

“Following the presentation of a report regarding the sequence of events that took place following the incident on Lap 53 of the Grand Prix and in a constant drive for improvement, the FIA President proposed to the World Motor Sport Council that a detailed analysis and clarification exercise for the future with all relevant parties will now take place,” a statement from the FIA announced.

“This matter will be discussed and addressed with all the teams and drivers to draw any lessons from this situation and clarity to be provided to the participants, media, and fans about the current regulations to preserve the competitive nature of our sport while ensuring the safety of the drivers and officials. It is not only Formula 1 that may benefit from this analysis, but also more generally all the other FIA circuit championships.

“Following that presentation and an extensive discussion, the World Council has decided to unanimously support the President’s proposal.

“The FIA will therefore do its utmost to have this in motion within the Formula 1 governance and will propose to the Formula 1 Commission to give a clear mandate for study and proposal to the Sporting Advisory Committee, with the support of Formula 1 drivers, so that any identified meaningful feedback and conclusions be made before the beginning of the 2022 season.”

Formula 1 effectively brought down the curtain on the 2021 season on Abu Dhabi yesterday following the conclusion of a two-day tyre test at Yas Marina.

Teams are not set to return to track until late February when testing commences for 2022, with Bahrain to host the opening round in March.
 
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Every single person with even a passing knowledge of F1 should be hailing Perez as an absolute legend for that defensive job he did for Max. That defence job was a major component of that win.
when you realize that lewis was not safe to max after max pitted during first vsc and during second safety car because of fucking legend checco's defensive driving.
 
Every single comment I've seen is calling Bourdais a dumb cunt like the talentless fagot he clearly is.

Every single person with even a passing knowledge of F1 should be hailing Perez as an absolute legend for that defensive job he did for Max. That defence job was a major component of that win.

Since the introduction of DRS and tyres that just fall apart we've really missed out on seeing such amazing defensive driving as that.
I didn't even remember this 1.5-year no-show tard.

Checo's driving was easily the best I've seen all season and that is not something said lightly given the amazing races we saw.

FIA launches investigation into Abu Dhabi F1 drama
By Mat Coch
Thursday 16th December, 2021 - 10:10am
[ original | archive ]

The FIA is investigating the controversial Abu Dhabi GP finale

Motorsport’s world governing body has announced it will launch a detailed analysis into the circumstances surrounding the climax of the Formula 1 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

Outgoing FIA President Jean Todt has proposed to the World Motor Sport Council that a “detailed analysis and clarification exercise” now be carried out.

The final laps of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix have been shrouded with controversy, with outrage primarily directed at race director Michael Masi and his decision to allow the race resume with one lap remaining.

Specifically, the way Masi released some – but not all – of the lapped traffic, and also the timing of which he released them, has been questioned.

Indeed, it is on that point, ostensibly covered by Article 48.12 of the sporting regulations, that Mercedes submitted a protest on Sunday evening.

That was dismissed, with the constructors’ world championship winning operation almost immediately announcing its intent to appeal.

In doing so, it began a 96-hour countdown to formally appeal, with that window set to close in the early hours (AEDT) of Friday morning.

Recognising the need to clarify the situation, the FIA will now fully investigate the issue.

“Following the presentation of a report regarding the sequence of events that took place following the incident on Lap 53 of the Grand Prix and in a constant drive for improvement, the FIA President proposed to the World Motor Sport Council that a detailed analysis and clarification exercise for the future with all relevant parties will now take place,” a statement from the FIA announced.

“This matter will be discussed and addressed with all the teams and drivers to draw any lessons from this situation and clarity to be provided to the participants, media, and fans about the current regulations to preserve the competitive nature of our sport while ensuring the safety of the drivers and officials. It is not only Formula 1 that may benefit from this analysis, but also more generally all the other FIA circuit championships.

“Following that presentation and an extensive discussion, the World Council has decided to unanimously support the President’s proposal.

“The FIA will therefore do its utmost to have this in motion within the Formula 1 governance and will propose to the Formula 1 Commission to give a clear mandate for study and proposal to the Sporting Advisory Committee, with the support of Formula 1 drivers, so that any identified meaningful feedback and conclusions be made before the beginning of the 2022 season.”

Formula 1 effectively brought down the curtain on the 2021 season on Abu Dhabi yesterday following the conclusion of a two-day tyre test at Yas Marina.

Teams are not set to return to track until late February when testing commences for 2022, with Bahrain to host the opening round in March.
The headline is a bit misleading. Seems FIA will put together a detailed explanation of how Masi decided to act and how he applied the rules to do so.
Seems like they will ammend the rules as well to prevent future uncertainties... I expect another rule to be added that essentially states that the race director has the option to unlap certain cars if the situation makes it unfeasible to unlap all cars or something.
 
Regarding driver numbers, yes Max is definitely taking the #1. He said it a couple times, he also said it may be the only time he ever gets to do it! LOL So, def #1 back in 2022.

I believe that a driver retains his number even after leaving F1, for 2 years. If they don't come back, then it goes back to being available for anyone to choose.

As for the numbers, can someone maybe explain the way they used numbers back in the 50s/60s. I may be mistaken, but pretty sure I have seen photos from races during the same year and the drivers have different numbers each race. Tell me I am not out to lunch. I specifically recall the Lotus cars the British Racing Green era as doing this. That seems weird. Again, pretty sure I am not imagining that!

Also, did anyone see the drunk Toto videos and apparently the team's twitter account DMing people who reposted them and asking them to remove the vids? HAHAHA

Here is an interesting video for how the numbers were handed out in the past

 
Lewis fans: Max doesn't deserve to win the championship.

Reality:
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I did it though, I found an article that both Hamilton and Vestappen fans agree on:
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Every single comment I've seen is calling Bourdais a dumb cunt like the talentless fagot he clearly is.

Every single person with even a passing knowledge of F1 should be hailing Perez as an absolute legend for that defensive job he did for Max. That defence job was a major component of that win.

Since the introduction of DRS and tyres that just fall apart we've really missed out on seeing such amazing defensive driving as that.
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lol he's one to talk, stupid baguette faggot can't even turn left
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In a move that should have always been the case:

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Both have been as guilty as eachother on the phone to Masi every 5 seconds all season. He isn't the stewards and his first commitment should always be safety, not listening to team managers whinging. Having a one way line that let's team managers respond when spoken to but no the rest of the time is precisely what is needed.

The problem is all this radio traffic (and even here referring to him as the "referee") gives people the totally wrong impression of his role or even who does the decision making. The stewards make most decisions regarding what's "fair", if the is "no investigation necessary" that's not Masi saying that. His job is the smooth and safe running of a race, not adjudicating incidents.
 
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Both have been as guilty as eachother on the phone to Masi every 5 seconds all season. He isn't the stewards and his first commitment should always be safety, not listening to team managers whinging. Having a one way line that let's team managers respond when spoken to but no the rest of the time is precisely what is needed.
Frankly, the moment Toto started whining about not sending out a safety car cause it would interfere with the result of the race, Masi should have told him in no uncertain words that the deployment of the safety car depends on the necessities to keep the track safe for marshals and drivers alike, that Toto should never dare waste Masi's time with this kind of nonsense ever again and that if he does, his entire team will be disqualified from the race. Full stop.

I am still at a loss for words how utterly ridiculously petty and idiotic it was from Wolff to demand such a thing.

And this as well, the first and second paragraph alone are reason enough to reprimand Mercedes officially for this kind of nonsense.

Also that third paragraph, that insinuates that the race should be won by the one leading the most laps would mean, by extension, that Max should have won the season by the halfway point.

And of course, the poor POC driver that has never felt any kind of privilege comparable to that of being white gets a full body massage with a reacharound and public fellatio by his team.

Check out how they go down on Lewis, 4 lines praising him in all regards and then compare that to Valteri: "Yeah you drove 5 years for us and we won titles. Thanks I guess." So is he a douchebag off the track, no true sportsman and so on? Come the fuck on, you treated him like an expandable water boy, at least have the courtesy to praise him a little more personally than this dime-a-dozen trite.

And finally: "We look forward to taking the fight for the next title to the track". Yeah, totally. Like they did with the flexi-wing, the quick pitstops and so on.
 
Man if the big upshot of all of this is Hamilton retiring it will be the greatest thing ever. Get that dipshit out of the sport and let literally anyone else take the limelight, there are 19 more likable drivers on that grid to pick from.

The Lewis Hamilton reddit is wild. Its a nonstop seethe and cope fest (though the cope died hard with the merc announcement). They're full on the muh racism train of course:

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Yes, they have a BLM tag in their reddit about a racing driver.

Even they're calling out Lewis for not attending the gala though.
 
If it turns out that Hamilton now throws in the towel and leaves the sport, it will be my new mission in life to find out where Masi lives, sneak up on him when he leaves the house and give him a giant fuck-off present basket.

Btw: There was a big photo shoot for those that won FIA constructor's titles (Formula E, F2 and so on)... and Mercedes refused to participate as well. Their team and car will not be featured in the official photos.

I am pretty sure that this display of bullshit is going to lead to reprimands, since they are contractually obligated to participate and above all, it is unsportsmanlike, shows utter disrespect to the FIA, the sport and every other team and driver.

I sincerely hope FIA fines Mercedes and Hamilton for this publicity stunt. Fuck me, if Mercedes fucks up enough and they get their entire season annuled retroactively, I am going to piss myself and double the amount of raw cocaine in the Masi-present-basket.

Edit: Holy shit, the seethe and cope from the Redditor fanboys lmao.

If these clowns turn their back on the sport alongside their dramaqueen, all the better.
And you just gotta fucking love these clowns bitching about how DA BLACK MAN can't lash out against discimination a year after BLM burned down entire blocks over a vile piece of human trash like Floyd got nubbed.
 
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I mean we all knew the Mercedes melt down saga was coming eventually. They can't cope with losing and pull every dirty trick they can to avoid it.

They kept going on that they would welcome a challenge we all knew it was bullshit and they would kick off when one arrived, it arrived this season and they definitely did not pass that test.

If their car is not up to it next season I can honestly see them pulling out at the end with some bullshit reason.

Their display or absolute petulance regarding the WCC and 2nd in the WDC obligations is definitely putting a big black mark on their entire team leadership as far as credibility goes.

The CEO of Daimler Mercedes was at the race and stood behind Toto for the entire theatrics at the end. Do you think all of this is what he wants to represent his company? He must know how their senior management's behaviour here hurts them more than if they had just been Haas tier all season.
 
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I'm rather biased, but Mercedes' image has taken quite a hit in the last season as far as I am concerned. They have always tried to defang their competition via off-the-track lawyer shenanigans, but the petty bullshit they have been pulling in the last couple days seriously covered the three-pronged star with a boatload of horseshit.

They openly and publically voice their doubts about the integrity of the sport, but if that's what they feel like about the sport, they should really leave it behind, If they are unwilling to do that, I expect them to man the fuck up, swallow their pride and be good sportsmen about it. This refusal to be mature about it is hurting the sport and if they just do it to play up the victim card and garner sympathy, they are scum.
 
Please let it be so

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It will be the turd on top of his career. Acting like a dick throughout all of it then storming out when not just handed the championship with the best car and compliant team mate.

It's like a kid holding their breath until you give them what they want. In his massive arrogance Hamilton thinks he's bigger than the sport and threatening to leave will change something. The inability of mercedes and Hamilton to cope with their fall from grace is just great to watch.

Not attending the gala is such poor sportsmanship. They won the WCC but the team principal is refusing to collect it which is an insult to all the engineers that made that amazing car and to Bottas who will probably be attending as the 3rd place driver.
 
This is classic Garry Kasparov Syndrome - when you're leading the sport but have absolute zero grace in losing.

Ok, so I don't know much about the rules on motor racing, but shouldn't that corner skip by Hamilton incur some time penalty? So, if they let all the lapped cars through, and the field bunches again, wouldn't Max be right behind and then the time penalty still gives the him the title?
 
Ok, so I don't know much about the rules on motor racing, but shouldn't that corner skip by Hamilton incur some time penalty?
Should have but they already decided and announced that they weren't going to about 30 seconds after it happened. I expect if it had finished behind the SC (or Max <5 seconds in general) that RBR would have challenged the result.
 
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