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. 2 between them in fp3, closer than I thought but they're likely holding back for quali
Well, it's better to do tests in regards to determine which parts of the track are where those tenths and hundreds can be gained and test what an 8/10ths lap for tire preservation should be like.
 
Perez you are a king for that tow
Well, it's better to do tests in regards to determine which parts of the track are where those tenths and hundreds can be gained and test what an 8/10ths lap for tire preservation should be like.
I hope they were prepping for race pace since they're in the box seat now and are gonna need a good gap
 
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Well well. Gonna be very interesting now given both teams are going to be running completely different strategies on raceday. I still think Hamilton will win ultimately but being on pole without anyone in front of him gives Max some much needed space to tame his worst instincts.

Shoutout to Norris as well for playing disruptor with both teams’ second cars too.
 
Interesting race ahead! Both teammates a bit out of touch, although RB has upper hand on Merc there. Lando in the mix, but I expect he will be sensible and not risk getting involved in the title dynamic.

Top 2 on different tires brings strategy into play big time. Will RB do two stop and go S-M-S? I assume Merc will do M-H, will 2S vs 1H make up for the lost extra pit time? Max said the Softs are better at night.

Whatever the case, will be a good close to this year.
 
That tow was so amazingly coordinated. We've seen so many try that and fail miserably in the past but that was sweet.

Vestappen needs to crawl round the formation lap, his softs will warm up so much easier than Hamilton's mediums so just don't give him opportunity to get much heat into them.
 
A potentially important observation on who may win tomorrow and why:

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(Though the funniest bit is the followup underneath from Chainbear saying 'this is a joke please don't hurt me I'm not a heckin chud')
 
The fun thing with Vestappen ahead is if both don't finish Vestappen wins. It will definitely give hambone something to think about before trying some marginal overtake.

Even better if they find themselves vestappen just behind Hamilton in the minor points places it will be fastest lap wins.
 
The fun thing with Vestappen ahead is if both don't finish Vestappen wins. It will definitely give hambone something to think about before trying some marginal overtake.

Even better if they find themselves vestappen just behind Hamilton in the minor points places it will be fastest lap wins.


Indeed.Max is not known for being reluctant to try to overtake even in difficult circumstances , and if both were DNF then the title goes to max on wins so he has some advantage in that respect
See how the softs work out though to Hamilton's mediums
Good quali for Lando
 
It's not just Max vs. Hamilton in terms of soft and medium tyres though. I think Mercs are the only ones on medium tyres, so everyone will have an advantage against Hamilton at the start.
I'd laugh my ass off if Verstappen pulled away at the start and Hamilton ended up banking it after a minor kerfuffle with some mid-tier car on better tyres. Good clean victory for Verstappen if Hamilton gets a DNF without Verstappen even being close.
 
Unfortunately Hamilton's Mercedes has enough pace to shake off much of the lower ranks early tyre advantage once the race is up and running
it would need to be as you're suggesting early on from a second or lower tier car and Hamilton is likely to be very aware he can't afford to tangle with those though he may not be able to avoid it
If they have a safety or virtual safety car early on RB get a cheap tyre change

A Hamilton DNF with max way out of the tangle would have a certain amusement value I have to admit
 
Personally, I'd like to see Kimi, while being lapped, take out Lewis and tell him to do a flip! That would be fucking hilarious!

I say this as it reminded me of an interview I read where Kimi basically said he is sick of how people cry all the time. Here is the interview, pretty funny, lots of censoring! One of the more in depth pieces about Kimi for sure, enjoy!

Unfiltered and unapologetic: The retiring Kimi Raikkonen on his time in F1​

Kimi Raikkonen's first memory of racing a car dates back 32 years. He didn't have a driving licence at the time (he was only 10), but in the Finnish town of Espoo in the early 1990s, that didn't seem to matter. The car was an old Lada, which may or may not have been road legal, and the track was an improvised loop of the yard around his parent's house.

There were only two entrants in this historically significant racing series: Kimi and his older brother Rami. Kimi had ridden motocross bikes around the front yard for as long as he could remember, so he knew the track well and was pretty sure he could handle the step up from two wheels to four -- even if reaching the pedals was still a bit of a stretch.

"We had some old cars that we were able to drive in our yard," Raikkonen recalled in a recent interview with ESPN. "It wasn't a big yard, but there was a road to go up and then turn around and then it went back behind the house.

"So when we were like 10 years old and 12 years old, we had these old Ladas that we would drive starting just on the road and then full speed up towards the house. Sometimes we hit the tree or the corner of the house, but my mum and dad were kind of OK with it, so ..."

At this point in the interview it's impossible not to interrupt. The thought of a 10-year-old Kimi Raikkonen driving a Lada into a house requires an instant follow up: "Wait, you hit the corner of your parent's house?"
"I mean I hit it one time and then hit the tree on the other side, because there was the corner of the house and then the tree," Raikkonen responds, deadpan. "It's not like it broke the house or anything, but there were cracks on the concrete -- you know, the foundations.

"But mum and dad were OK with it because they felt it was better for us doing those things than being some stupid idiot at a railway station drinking or something. So, it was nice."
It turns out Raikkonen's parents were right. Those early days racing Ladas in the garden were the origins of a remarkable Formula One career that went on to span 21 years and result in a record-breaking 348 races (to date), 21 wins and one world championship. At Sunday's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix he will take part in race No. 349, which will be his last in Formula One.

After such a storied career, you might think that there's nothing left to learn about Raikkonen, but that couldn't be further from the truth. When he crosses the line for the final time in Abu Dhabi, he will do so as one of the most popular drivers in the sport but also one of the least understood.
It's undeniable that those two factors are in some way linked. For many, Raikkonen has achieved cult status precisely because he gives away so little in front of the cameras.

His short answers in interviews provide a blank canvas upon which tall tales from his early career of week-long drinking sessions and cross-continental partying paint a lurid picture. To the outside world, he is the last true rebel in a sport that has become increasingly homogenised by sponsor money and PR control.

But after 20 minutes talking face-to-face with Raikkonen, it's clear that he's not the enigma he's made out to be. Most of the stories that make up the Raikkonen legend are over a decade old, and in recent years he's certainly mellowed. He's now a family man, and when he retires from F1 on Sunday, his main aim is to spend a lot more time with his wife Minttu, and two young children, Robin and Rianna.
Not that he's made any plans.

"I don't want to make plans," he says. "We will go for a holiday after the season and then see. I am not in any hurry to decide anything. If something interesting comes along then I will do it, but we'll see."
Doing what he wants has been a core theme of Raikkonen's time in F1 -- whether it's reaching for an ice cream during a red flag period or taking two years off during the peak of his career -- and he believes it has been crucial to the longevity of his time in the sport.

"For sure there are lots of people who have tried to change me over the years, especially at the beginning," he says. "They said you should do this or that, but I never really listened to them -- and luckily not, because I don't think I could live my life doing something that makes other people happy.

"I think you can kind of do things to make people happy for a year or something, but it's never going to work in the long run. You will have a bigger issue.

"I got some s--- about it, but I never really cared about that. Luckily I have been fast enough that I still had my drive after all the things I did.

"Honestly, when people say to me, 'How can you do this or that and have nobody give you s--- about it?' I say, 'F--- that, it took me years and years of fighting against people and only now it works out.'

"I do my job and I do my thing, but I always take driving seriously. The rest I always said, I don't like it and I am not here for the interviews or anything else but the driving."

You don't have to search far on the internet to find stories that make you wonder how Raikkonen got away with doing "this or that" during his time in F1. A number occurred during his time at McLaren, when Raikkonen was shooting to fame in his early 20s and appeared to be partying as hard as he was racing (search "Raikkonen," "Gran Canaria" and "inflatable dolphin" for one such example).

His team boss at the time, Ron Dennis, was a certified control-freak who valued the image of his team almost as much as he valued its performance on track. Raikkonen's antics at that stage of his career did not always fit with Dennis' vision of what a Formula One driver should be, and on one occasion it nearly cost the Finn his job.

"Ron always wanted to do it his way because how he sees the whole team and its image [is one thing], and I completely understand but I wasn't ready to do that," Raikkonen says 15 years later.

"In most parts, yes it was fine, but in some parts he was absolutely not happy. That's life and we got through it, but afterwards there were some funny things to remember.

"I had my contract ripped and put in a bag and he gave it to me like that. But then I won the next race and he said, 'No, no, no, no, it's OK, let's forget the whole thing.'

"But I never cared about it, I always knew I was quick enough so I would sort it out one way or another. But I think my managers were always a bit on edge. They are good memories because it all worked out OK.

"People always felt like I had a s--- relationship with Ron, but I don't think I had a s--- relationship. For sure, we had some arguments and he needed to kick me out a few times, but fair play.

"I think as a person, if we wouldn't be sitting in the F1 paddock and we were just chatting about normal things, I always had a good relationship with him. Even when I saw him afterwards, I always joked with him.
"But I understand his position and we just saw the same thing with completely different eyes."

Perhaps Raikkonen is getting out of F1 at the right time. In an era when sports stars get "cancelled" for saying or doing the wrong thing, he's happy he isn't starting his career now.

"It's f---ing crazy -- in the world generally, I mean," he adds. "Because whatever you say, people will say, 'How can you say this?' and they can turn anything to look bad.

"It's a f---ing weird thing, it's f---ing crazy. People get crazy. I mean, I don't care. If I say something and someone gets upset, I honestly don't give a f---.

"If you insult somebody, fine, I understand why you get upset, but in general if you can't say something [because it upsets someone] ... I just stay out of it because I don't want to waste my time on this kind of bulls---. There are other things in life to worry about.
"But generally, it is difficult because everybody looks at what the people are saying and try to make more negative out of it more than anything else."

After his time at McLaren, Raikkonen moved to Ferrari, where he became world champion in his first season with the team in 2007. Even though it came shortly after Michael Schumacher's run of five titles in the early 2000s, Raikkonen's win was a big deal. Fourteen years later and he is still the last driver to win a championship with the Italian team.

But did becoming a world champion change Raikkonen at all?

"I don't think my life changed. I think people probably looked at me differently. They were asking different questions and they expected different things, but it didn't feel like my life itself changed. But why would it change?

"It was just a different result. People might look at you differently, but frankly I don't think it is a very good reason to look at you differently, do you know what I mean?

"I wouldn't look at Pedro [Cebrian, Alfa Romeo press officer] differently if he won. He'd be the same guy, you know? For sure, with Ferrari when we won both championships obviously in Italy they are very passionate about it, but that's nothing to complain about."

Two years later at the end of 2009, Raikkonen received a substantial payoff to leave F1 as Ferrari signed Fernando Alonso to replace him in 2010. It led to a two-year hiatus in Raikkonen's career, which he filled with rallying and even a short spell in NASCAR. But Raikkonen is not one to hold a grudge, and proof of the strength of his relationship with Ferrari came in 2014, when he returned to the team following two years at Lotus in 2012 and 2013.

"The stuff with Ferrari, I always felt that with the people that were important I had a good relationship," Raikkonen said. "Obviously they had their reasons, but I have no interest to talk about that and no issue with it as well.

"I always said at that time, I was more than happy to leave and I was quite fed up with all the politics and bulls--- in F1, so it was good to be out for a couple of years. Without that I wouldn't be here today, good and bad.

"So why would I start saying bad things about them? They had all their rights to put whoever they want in the car and I think we left in a good condition.

"Of course there were some people who were a bit so-so, but I don't care, you know? They felt they owned things but they didn't try to screw me over completely, so I have no issue with it."

It's clear that the longevity of Raikkonen's career is based on a few key factors. First and foremost was his performance behind the wheel -- without it he wouldn't have made it to F1 in the first place -- but also his determination to do things his way and not burn bridges. Whether that was down to a conscious decision or just a natural character trait, it means Raikkonen is still incredibly popular among the people who worked with him.

But even with his strong relationships in F1, it's hard to imagine Raikkonen hanging around the sport as a TV pundit or commentator. The only thing that might bring him back is if his kids want to follow in the family business, but he insists that is a long way off.

"We got a go-kart for [Robin] in Switzerland but we haven't had much time to use it because I'm always away," Raikkonen says. "It's very nice and I think Rianna wants to try, so maybe now before the snow comes we can go and try."

Much like his parents supported him in his youth and turned a blind eye to the cracked foundations of their house, Raikkonen is happy to support his kids in whatever they choose to do.

"I don't mind what it is, I'll enjoy it," he says. "I don't mind if it means I go there and clean the karts and do the mechanic stuff, for me it's fun and it's nice to see that they enjoy to do something.

"If something comes out of it, then great, but if not, great and I hope they have both found something that they are interested in."

It will be strange to start the 2022 season without Kimi on the grid, but if Robin and Rianna share their dad's love of racing, we may not have seen the last of the Raikkonen name just yet.
 
Kimi is definitely the last of his breed: the people for whom racing is a love but not their every waking moment, thriving because of the sheer focus and talent that they have. Like footballers in the pre-Wenger era who went binging the night before a match and still turned up the next day and banged in a hat trick. I can see why he's such a fan of James Hunt.
 
Found a fun article

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Not because of the contents, its a standard long drawn out piece describing a system anyone with any F1 knowledge should know. The comments section though, wow, that's one giant Hambone cock sucker seeth fest about the whole thing.

Starting with the Spa seeth

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Yeah Spa was a joke but you know what Max took pole and enough was done for it to officially classify for half points. So suck it up.

Next up the revisionist history of douchebag's pit maneuver

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Because of course that was hambones corner, Max should have just backed out and there was nothing king nig could have done (please ignore the overtake on the ferrari where he proved he easily could).

Of course we still have the Saudi Arabia coping

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Sorry if your GOAT can't work out how to drive around a slowing car rather than smashing into the back of it.

Plus whatever the fuck this is

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So in conclusion Hambone fans are unrepentant dipshits that don't understand the first thing about the sport or even the real world.
 
Mazepin tests positive for COVID - out of Abu Dhabi GP

Mazepin ruled out of Abu Dhabi GP after positive Covid-19 test
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Haas driver Nikita Mazepin will miss the season-ending Abu Dhabi Grand Prix after testing positive for Covid-19.
The Russian returned the result at an on-site test at Yas Marina Circuit. A re-test also came back positive.
Reserve driver Pietro Fittipaldi is in Abu Dhabi, however because the Brazilian hasn’t taken part in at least one session this weekend, he is not eligible to stand in.
As a result, Haas will run just one car – with Mick Schumacher at the wheel – for Sunday’s race. The German will line up 19th. Mazepin was set to start from 20th.

A joint statement on Mazepin's positive test said: "The FIA, Formula 1 and Haas F1 Team can today confirm that during onsite PCR testing for the 2021 FIA Formula 1 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, Nikita Mazepin has tested positive for COVID-19. In accordance with COVID-19 protocols he will take no further part in this Event. All contacts have been declared.
"There will be no replacement driver in accordance with article 31.1 of the 2021 FIA Formula 1 Sporting Regulations, which prohibits any driver from starting the race who has not taken part in at least one practice session.
"The procedures set out by the FIA and Formula 1 will ensure no wider impact on the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix."

Nikita is physically well, having been asymptomatic, but he will now self-isolate and adhere to the guidelines of the relevant public health authorities

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Haas added in a further statement: "Nikita is physically well, having been asymptomatic, but he will now self-isolate and adhere to the guidelines of the relevant public health authorities, with safety the ultimate priority for all parties concerned.
"Uralkali Haas F1 Team wish Nikita well and we look forward to his return to the race track in early 2022 for pre-season testing."
The title-deciding Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, which will see a winner-takes-all fight between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen for the championship, begins at 5pm local time.​

 
Well my mercedes' engine shat itself irreparably in the week so let's hope that's profetic of Hamilton's mercedes engine.
 
F1 cars don't seem to break down at all anymore, even the backmarkers. Curious what's changed to have made them so reliable.
I think in a large part they've shifted the focus over to reliability with not being able to put a new engine in every session and push them to the limit. It means they need to have some margin to avoid getting all the change of engine penalties.

God damn Ted is one overly verbose mother fucker. Just say what the fuck you're saying and stop dancing around the point.

Bitch if I wanted nigger poetry hour I'd find some legbeard's YouTube channel.
 
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