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Yuuichirou Kumada said:
Trust me, we are a very immediatist people. We hated Barrichello over not being able to stand up for himself during his Ferrari years
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The trouble with Barrichello is that he's just too nice, and someone that's too nice will never win a WDC no matter how great their driving is. It's the same reason why Ricciardo hasn't (and probably won't) win a WDC. I should point out that being nice on the track and being nice IRL are two completely different things. Senna seemed like one of the warmest and most wholesome people you could ever meet IRL, yet he was a savage racer and was happy to wear the black hat when on track. Speaking of which...
Consider Lizards said:
I remember Michael Schumacher being interviewed, i think in his last season, and he was saying that his wife and kids were with him for the weekend, you could see how happy that made him. His whole face lit up as he explained, He could have spent the whole weekend letting fans and VIPs boost his ego, but no, the family were there.
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Schumy was pretty wholesome off-track too, even though he was - at times - a dirty racer.

I reckon I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but former Australian V8 Supercars champion and Bathurst 1000 winner Russell Ingall said it best: to be a motorsport champion, you need have some mongrel in you. By "mongrel" he means Australian slang for "asshole".

Many of the greats (i.e. Senna, Prost, Schumacher) could be complete pricks whilst racing, but weren't necessarily pricks off-track. Ingall would know; he earned the nickname "The Enforcer" for being a very hard-nosed racer in V8 Supercars, and was shaping up to be potential F1 material until he ran out of money and had to move back to Australia.

Ingall has some interesting things to say about the Max vs Hambone rivalry in his latest video. I don't think he rates Hambone as the GOAT either.


BTW Enforcer and The Dude is well worth subscribing to, even if you just have a passing interest in Supercars.
Auntie Fester said:
Anyone who actually thinks Hamilton is the GOAT is brain damaged.
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Yep. It's undeniable that Hambone is the most successful F1 driver of all time, but anyone that claims he's the greatest is too dumb to know the difference between success and greatness.
 
Completely unrelated to the race, I'm getting real sick of that "Sky Q" offer that's being shilled multiple times per GP. Living in America, I have not, and will not ever, have a red button on my remote to watch highlights alongside the race.
 
Endu said:
Completely unrelated to the race, I'm getting real sick of that "Sky Q" offer that's being shilled multiple times per GP. Living in America, I have not, and will not ever, have a red button on my remote to watch highlights alongside the race.
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The funniest one to me is the constant sky glass shilling. It's shit, expensive and impossible to get ahold of (been released in the UK but they are currently taking registrations to be able to order when avaliable).

It costs a monthly fee for the TV to work at all, stop paying the TV stops working. Which idiots are jumping at that deal? It's not even like there is a discount on extra channels, the cost the same as a sky Q cutoment pays.

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Those are some expensive fucking TVs too. My 65" Samsung cost less than their 43" sky glass.

I have sky Q because they gave me a really sweet deal to move from sky+, I haven't used a single feature of Q that I didn't already have on +.
 
Consider Lizards said:
I remember Michael Schumacher being interviewed, i think in his last season, and he was saying that his wife and kids were with him for the weekend, you could see how happy that made him. His whole face lit up as he explained, He could have spent the whole weekend letting fans and VIPs boost his ego, but no, the family were there.

This is what we get now. Cunt, This is the outfit he arrived at Brazil in, btw.

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Apparently if you touch it, you get a fine of 50,000
 

Australia's Oscar Piastri confirmed as Formula 1 reserve driver for 2022 championship​

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Rising Australian star Oscar Piastri has been named as a reserve driver for the Alpine Formula 1 team in 2022.

Key points:​

  • Piastri says the role is the next step towards his aim for a race seat in 2023
  • The 20-year-old is on top of the Formula 2 standings
  • He won the Formula 3 world title last year
Piastri — the 2020 Formula 3 world champion — is on course to back up that success in the Formula 2 championship this year, leading the series with three wins and seven pole positions.

With two rounds remaining, Piastri is on track to join George Russell and Charles Leclerc in an elite club to have back-to-back F3 and F2 titles as rookies.

While unable to secure an F1 seat for next year, the 20-year-old's move to be a reserve driver means he will be part of extensive testing and in line to race in the sport's elite category if an opportunity arises.

"I'm super excited to be joining Alpine F1 Team as a reserve driver," Piastri said in a team statement.

"I'm looking forward to being much more involved with the team and contributing to its intended success next season.

"The reserve driver role is the next step towards my aim for a race seat in 2023, which is very exciting."

The news is a bonus for Piastri, who would be unable to continue racing in F2 if he wins this year's title.

"I've proved myself in the junior formulas over the last couple of years and feel like I'm ready for Formula 1 now," he said.

"Along with the trackside experience at race weekends, we will put together a substantial test program in order to keep developing myself to grow even more prepared for a race seat."

Alpine chief executive Laurent Rossi said Piastri's natural talent was "clear to see".

"Not only does Oscar have the on-track skills, as demonstrated over the last couple of years in the junior categories, but also the maturity and composure that makes him really stand out from the rest," he said.

With his 2022 role secured, Piastri will turn all his attention to securing the F2 title, with the next event at Jeddah in Saudi Arabia from December 3 to 5.

The season finale at Abu Dhabi is the following weekend from December 10-12.

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I'm incredibly uneducated about F1 and only started watching last season, but Bottas better school Zhou next year, fuck Alfa.

Meanwhile, Gio scored a drive in Formula E, so at least he's still racing. I may watch solely to see how he does.

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Endu said:
I'm incredibly uneducated about F1 and only started watching last season, but Bottas better school Zhou next year, fuck Alfa.

Meanwhile, Gio scored a drive in Formula E, so at least he's still racing. I may watch solely to see how he does.

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Are you Italian?

Unless you are, I dunno why you would be a Giovinazzi fanboy, he has been so underwhelming in F1.
 
With Zhou in F1, maybe it is finally time to buy tickets to a race for the first time... and bringing a giant banner reading "6.4.1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre".
 
Mercedes are really shaken about losing this season.

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You could also see it in how Toto was on the grid when Martin was talking to him and when Lewis was talking on the radio. It's really getting to them and that pressure will cause mistakes.

I wonder if all the hambon fan morons crowing about how the stewards shouldn't be involved in deciding the championship will equally decry any penalty given to Max?

DtS has a lot to answer for for bringing in even more mouthbreathing morons (same with when Lewis appeared and brought the moronic masses). These are idiots who complain the engineering of the sport is boring and cheer at every DRS overtake as if its the greatest thebsport has ever seen.
 
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McLaren Group denies being bought by Audi​

Brand issues statement after an Autocar source reported Audi had acquired McLaren with a view to racing in F1

by Damien Smith
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15 November 2021
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McLaren has denied being bought by Audi, after an Autocar source reported that the German manufacturer had acquired the whole group to secure it an entry into Formula 1.

In a statement, the brand said the story was "wholly inaccurate", adding: "McLaren’s technology strategy has always involved ongoing discussions and collaboration with relevant partners and suppliers, including other carmakers, however, there has been no change in the ownership structure of the McLaren Group.”

An Audi spokesperson had no official comment to add at this stage, but Reuters reported yesterday that Audi was "open to cooperation opportunities". Earlier reports that BMW was interested in the Woking brand were subsequently dismissed by the Munich firm.

McLaren has been operating under heavy financial pressures despite an injection of capital late last year following a refinancing worth up to £500 million. McLaren CEO Mike Flewitt stepped down from his role after eight years last month.

A McLaren takeover would have given Audi access to another supercar brand alongside Lamborghini, which it controls. It would also have opened up the possibility of Audi engines powering McLaren. It would not, however, give Audi control of McLaren Applied, the arm of the group that specialises in electrification systems for both road and track, as that was sold to a private investment group earlier this year.

It is unclear what the implications of any Audi-McLaren tie-up would have been on the now-finalised partnership between Rimac and Bugatti, which has been devised with the aim of developing all-electric successors to the Nevera EV hypercar and the soon-to-be-retired Bugatti Chiron.

From an F1 point of view, the deal would have ensured the Volkswagen Group, which owns Audi, had direct access to an entry into grand prix racing. Volkswagen has been involved in discussions over the specification of a new F1 powertrain due for introduction mid-decade and has been openly considering a commitment to the pinnacle of motorsport.

Audi sibling brand Porsche is also considering a return to F1, as new motorsport boss Thomas Laudenbach told Autocar recently.

It is thought the most likely route for Porsche into F1 would be as a powertrain partner to an existing team, with Red Bull – which is currently building its own independent powertrain department in Milton Keynes – considered to be the most likely option for such a deal.
 
Somehow, Audi (and by extension Volkswagen) and F1 doesn't have the right ring to it... something about Volkswagen being a workhorse car and F1 being sleek and fast.

Then again, I would love if Porsche entered the F1 engine market. Way too complex and expensive to happen any time soon, but a few more engine competitors wouldn't hurt. Audi too.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
Somehow, Audi (and by extension Volkswagen) and F1 doesn't have the right ring to it... something about Volkswagen being a workhorse car and F1 being sleek and fast.
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I would've thought that the VW brand would make more sense in Formula E, given how hard VW is pushing its EV line in Europe. Or possibly Cupra, being the EV division of VW's quasi-sports marque, SEAT. That said, they already have Audi in Formula E.
RomanesEuntDomus said:
Then again, I would love if Porsche entered the F1 engine market. Way too complex and expensive to happen any time soon, but a few more engine competitors wouldn't hurt.
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I may be misremembering, but IIRC the last time Porsche engines were used in F1, they were a bit shit. Bear in mind this was back in the '80s.
 
Pee Cola said:
I may be misremembering, but IIRC the last time Porsche engines were used in F1, they were a bit shit. Bear in mind this was back in the '80s.
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When they did put some serious thought to it, they could get results. The TAG-branded V6 turbo engines they built for McLaren in the mid-80's gave them two constructor's titles and three driver's championships. You're probably remembering their half-assed early 90's V12 effort that was just two V6 blocks conjoined together like a siamese twin.
 
Mercedes engine switches are strategic rather than technical.

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Otherwise known as the penalty is not harsh enough.

Also well done on the sustainability message there lew. "I don't use my car collection, except when I do" and now "we throw away perfectly good engines, against the rules of the sport, because I might manage to hang on to a championship where I don't have a massive clear advantage for once."
 
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Coccxys said:
Also well done on the sustainability message there
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I honestly find the whole sustainability in motorsports thing to be perverse and ironic, especially given the international nature of F1. inb4 muh technology trickle down. Is there any actual quantification of how much does make it to road cars or are they pointing out a few examples here and there and using that to justify virtue signalling?

The logistics involved in setting up and running tracks in different countries probably burn more fuel than the entire grid and all the replaced engines for the entire season.
 
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