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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 58 7.4%
  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 91 11.7%
  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 177 22.7%
  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 407 52.2%
  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 47 6.0%

  • Total voters
    780
Jon is right on most of his points except the financials, Fishtank has a lot of money banked from how successful S1 and S2 were and that would probably just make him more furious if he realized they have hundreds of thousands of dollars laying around and they're weaseling him on a 6k hospital bill for injuries he got on the show or refusing to pay contestants prize money. Considering all the expenditures they had for S3 and the lack of TTS its highly probable that it barely broke even, but S1, S2 and Bitchtank were all very profitable for fishtank.
Are you sure about the lack of TTS? I didn't notice that, especially when you take into account how ridiculously expensive they were in season 3.
After seeing them gamble away 50k like it's nothing it's obvious Fishtank is a money printing machine. They've been saying the show is in financial trouble for three and a half seasons now, that's just meant to loosen your purse strings.
 
Are you sure about the lack of TTS? I didn't notice that
There were times in season 3 where there wasn't any TTS for long stretches of time. Especially after Mizzy and Simbal were eliminated, they were both TTS farms, along with Alex. But near the end of the season Burt was pretty much the only draw to TTS. I remember one night when Burt was asleep early and it was just Binx and Payton awake clucking like hens while TTS was on for hours but not a single person actually sent any the entire time. There wasn't any reason to. Then the RV shit happened and they consistently lost out on tons of TTS from constant technical issues.

I don't expect they actually lost out on much money though, but there was definitely less TTS in s3 than there was in 1 and 2.
 
There were times in season 3 where there wasn't any TTS for long stretches of time. Especially after Mizzy and Simbal were eliminated, they were both TTS farms, along with Alex. But near the end of the season Burt was pretty much the only draw to TTS. I remember one night when Burt was asleep early and it was just Binx and Payton awake clucking like hens while TTS was on for hours but not a single person actually sent any the entire time. There wasn't any reason to. Then the RV shit happened and they consistently lost out on tons of TTS from constant technical issues.

I don't expect they actually lost out on much money though, but there was definitely less TTS in s3 than there was in 1 and 2.
There was also no real toys besides giving binx plushies, no lootboxes no buying smokes and I doubt ball brothers came close to them
 
If Jet were to be replaced who would be the first person to take his place? My dream pick would be somebody like Xavier, but I think if stein could pull back a bit on “loud is funny” and given some direction he could be a good replacement as well.
Literally anybody
 
I kinda wish they'd do a season where they dial back the astroturfed narratives and just leave TTS+fishtoys running outside of sleeping hours, and see what happens. They can always come in and stir the pot if they get idle or it slows down, but the number of Fishtoys seems to dwindle with every season, along with how much they're used. Maybe drop the prices on some of them too, so there's a chance they actually get used. Season 2 had a few I was excited to see that NEVER got used, presumably because it was hard to justify when that same amount of tokens would get you 2-4 TTS messages. I don't think anyone's bed was EVER stolen.
 
Are you sure about the lack of TTS?
@cohle was doing some data extraction during the last week and had exact token usage for TTS. Each token is worth about a dime so you can shift the decimal place one spot for the cash value for consumed tokens from 304414 tokens to $30,441.40. From Dec 1st to Dec 8th they had 1482 TTS -- for 8 days this is an extremely low figure for this show. Generally past data paints a picture from S1 and S2 that the show makes about 200-250k per week when fully operational and it's not unreasonable to project S3 to land somewhere between $500-$600k given the intentional limitations they put on themselves only to be surprised in the later part of the season with disaster. No TTS week 1, "Computer" which was censored to hell and infrequent week 2 then the final week we have exact figures for.
 
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I kinda wish they'd do a season where they dial back the astroturfed narratives and just leave TTS+fishtoys running outside of sleeping hours, and see what happens. They can always come in and stir the pot if they get idle or it slows down, but the number of Fishtoys seems to dwindle with every season, along with how much they're used. Maybe drop the prices on some of them too, so there's a chance they actually get used. Season 2 had a few I was excited to see that NEVER got used, presumably because it was hard to justify when that same amount of tokens would get you 2-4 TTS messages. I don't think anyone's bed was EVER stolen.
A couple beds were stolen but there were so many other places to sleep that it really did not matter. they basically had to turn off the give the bed back option off because as soon as someone took one away it would be returned by another paypig since it was only binx being hit with it anyway.
 
Vegas was almost assuredly a financial loss. The ball bros concert was a huge spike in money during that period of the show, but I doubt it was enough to cancel out the price of meals, gas, lodging, the RV, etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if the overall financial picture was worse than S1. The recent WeFunder round closed. Previously they had raised around 472k in a prior round. The new total is only 495k, however, that figure isn't definite because it seems there's still no SEC filings for this year. That being said, I don't recall seeing any sort of real advertisement regarding this round so it's possible the whole thing was a bit of a misfire.
 
One thing that stood out to me about E5 is when Jimmy rushed Taylor and Sam stepped in during the triathlon, the handcam footage they used feels less intense/scary than the live footage from the kitchen cam. I wish they had used the kitchen cam footage for that instead.
 
I'm open to suggestions for other data/graphs to show. Hopefully I'll be able to run it continuously and make it public whenever the next season starts.
You could track individual names for TTS/SFX and likewise in the chatroom to observe how many people have season passes. Doing so would allow you to compare the paypigs from prior seasons to see if there has been any change. I think chat messages per minute is probably a useless metric because of the spammers flooding the buffer so anyone with a brain avoids the site chat, there is also the issue of gifted seasonal passes since there is a notification and that allows them to chat without a pass but its still worth counting them along with the names because its income. Another thing I did in the past was text search TTS for specific names and specific strings, lke "dog" for Jimmy which pertains to his dogfucker meme, "dyke" for Tay or "32" for Binx. This gives you a good sense for a successful fish because people may endorse someone that doesn't generate a lot of TTS, the most recent example would be Mizzy who generated a lot of TTS but wasn't endorsed as nearly much as Payton even though Mizzy was probably top three for TTS over the full length of the season.

I guess there is worth in tracking clanwar stuff just to count off wasted tokens as well.
 
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