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[Ancient Pioneer]

They brought out the camera for high def footage so they clearly had intentions to do some sort of episodic format of the show, its just I have zero clue how you would even begin to pull off the first week or two in a narrative fashion that makes sense. The best option would be to have archives available and to do replays of either seasons every now and then. Synchronize all the feeds and play them back over 40 days so you could experience the show in the original broadcast format, maybe even with the original chat log reactions to it as well and TTS logs if they exist. This resolves the same issue for Season 1 and likely Season 2 that the episodes diverge dramatically from what went on during the show.

 

[anliteralidiot]

They used to put that season pass user will get s2 archives but they quietly removed it from the benefits

Do you think it was because people passed around the s1 archives? Or was it too expensive to save?

 

[Angry Shoes]

Do you think it was because people passed around the s1 archives? Or was it too expensive to save?

Wiggerbrained retard logic: you can't have people editing the footage in a way that makes the show look bad, or a way that sells a narrative the producers don't approve of. Plus giving away the raw footage allows people to give it away to non-paypigs for free.
Actual non-retard logic: the more people editing the footage and posting it, the more attention the show gets. And it desperately needs fresh blood, nobody except weird spergs (us included) are watching this shit. Fan edits have the potential to bring a wider audience in for season 3.

 

[FailurePersonifiedV2]

Do you think it was because people passed around the s1 archives? Or was it too expensive to save?

Most likely the latter; cold storage is cheap but if you are requiring an active backup that people (not many) will want on demand downloads for, it gets expensive real quick to host that monthly.

They really should just host a torrent and spin up a seed box for like a month or two then just let other people eat the bandwidth costs

 

[eatler]

Most likely the latter; cold storage is cheap but if you are requiring an active backup that people (not many) will want on demand downloads for, it gets expensive real quick to host that monthly.

They really should just host a torrent and spin up a seed box for like a month or two then just let other people eat the bandwidth costs

Do the wiggers have the tech know how to pull that off?

 

[Punitive Castration]

Do you remember that thing they had last season where you'd download the video file and you wouldn't be able to fast forward or rewind it because of how it was encoded? And then over a month later or so they got rid of all those files and updated the archive so the files were all normal and you could play them on the website

call me boring but I think that's what they're doing, minus the step where we have access to the unusable unencoded files

 

[Aidan]

Do you think it was because people passed around the s1 archives? Or was it too expensive to save?

You can't stop people from filesharing. I think they figured they'd rather not spending the money but it wasn't "too expensive." The s1 archives were a pain to download in full due to terrible web design that I think was deliberate to reduce bandwidth costs.
I think the ultimate reason they opted not to do archives is it absolves them of having to scrub them on the fly when stuff happens, especially as this season was intended to be darker early on with the cult stuff. That's just my crazy thinking and is completely baseless but people should never forget they tried to run cover for their gay chigga friend by removing some of his drunk ramblings and actions from the archive while the show was ongoing and never acknowledged it.

Do you remember that thing they had last season where you'd download the video file and you wouldn't be able to fast forward or rewind it because of how it was encoded? And then over a month later or so they got rid of all those files and updated the archive so the files were all normal and you could play them on the website

call me boring but I think that's what they're doing, minus the step where we have access to the unusable unencoded files

They're retarded when it comes to video encoding, that's all it is. That process should have been streamlined between seasons but I doubt it was considered at all and don't expect them to share full archives from here on out as it's more convenient for them not to.
The confessional cam from season 1 ran on its own computer in the closet and was set up midway through and we got to see how they struggle to get things right, live on camera. The files and live footage were a disaster for over a week but they slowly fixed it throughout the show, though it was never good.

That said, they did fix the audio/video desync issues in season 2 and that was greatly appreciated.

 

[FailurePersonifiedV2]

Do the wiggers have the tech know how to pull that off?

I don't think so, they lack basic knowledge of the platforms they use (cloudflare and vercel).
I know their devs were outside of their timezone and given the attached screen (took me like 15 min to find both endpoints), they failed in the most basic of senses.

The above is fully avoidable if you just do a simple google search, but apparently that's too hard, or they just didn't know(?); if anyone on the team would have been competent, they would have at least done an IP whitelist on those endpoints, but they did not, you could easily log in and ooperate the website from the first link however I would be weary if you paid for access.
(this is most likely why redditors were able to DDoS them, since once you get around cloudflare you can just flood the base vercel ip until it chokes)

My thoughts on S1, I don't know where I said it, was that the thought of locally hosting entire archives of the show on their website is something that will hurt the wallet for the little benefit it provides most users, and I had hoped that offering S2 archives was a hint they had found some solution to manage costs but given the most recent information, they clearly don't want to pay. (from my point of view at least)

 

[Punitive Castration]

They're retarded when it comes to video encoding, that's all it is. That process should have been streamlined between seasons but I doubt it was considered at all and don't expect them to share full archives from here on out as it's more convenient for them not to.

The impression I get, and I'm not a computers person so I don't really know, is that they used the same infrastructure they used last time and unless they change things from the ground up this is the best possible way for things to work. The security cameras output these MKV files, which don't fast forward, as the show goes. Last season you could grab them as soon as they went live, but they wouldn't fast forward. If they tried to encode them as the show went it'd probably fall behind, badly, which would piss people off, not to mention automating that is probably a bitch on its own.

basically option one is last season where they upload a huge archive of useless files that nobody would want to save long-term, or else anyone who downloads them has to encode them all themselves and then come back and fix it after the season, option three is they rework their entire setup so that the cameras are recording in a completely different way which doesn't produce MKVs but I'm pretty sure this requires them to not be security cameras at all. we're in the mid-step, option 2, where they hold on to the useless files and we have to wait until the season is over for them to get cleaned into usable files.

 

[Aidan]

Skill issue. Not kidding. The mkv file format is irrelevant.

 

[Rache Bartmoss]

Lance is going live talking about the spelling bee and responding to Summer and Jon during Dalton's space. I will do a summary of the latter.

Summary

• He's talking about the microphone issue. He said the hosts were playing good cop/bad cop. Dalton was the good cop while Paul was the bad cop.
• He thinks the hosts were trying to get Jon saying racist remarks.
• He contacted Dalton before the space.
• He didn't think Jon would be on the show and was surprised to see him there. He wanted to confront Jon during the space.
• He thinks Jon looks at the show very negatively after he realizes he won't be on season 2 and that's the reason why he burns bridges with almost everyone. He also thinks that Jon hasn't apologized to Sam and Jet.
• He thinks Jon's action during the show didn't ruin his reputation and it was his post-tank behaviour that ruined it.
• He mocks Jon for not apologizing for real and he should know what he was apologizing for.
• He thinks Jon is very curious about his sexuality and the host did a good job of interrogating him about it. Sylvia commented on chat saying Jon got a boner after he gave her a back massage and thinking whether he got one when he did that to Simmons.
• Lance shows Jon's shirtless DMs on stream and will show more. He thinks Jon is bisexual. He also said that he had gone to a gay bar and if a guy looked at him like Jon looked in a photo he sent to a fan he'd leave.
• Lance thinks Jimmy is fine despite his allegations like the Vaush-tier Deviantart. Jimmy also pops up on the chat.
• He thinks Jon has a problem with his contradicting nature such as being a God-fearing Christian and following Andrew Tate at the same time. He said Jon is not genuine with himself. He also thinks that Jon is a fake Christian and only using it as a coping mechanism.
• When Summer starts to speak, Lance is surprised to see her. He was pissed off seeing her in the space and thought she will derail and ruin the space into all about herself and the mental health issue.
• He keeps requesting her to be muted from the space.
• He called Summer mental, idiot, deranged, and she should get out of the space.
• Summer is one of the lists that he would like to follow. But if he was put on the casting call, he would never pick her. He also mentioned that he once supported Summer during the show.
• He was kinda pissed off when the space turned into all about mental issues.
• Despite Jon and Summer saying they're not using mental illness as an excuse, he still thinks they're using it based on their action.
• When Jon is leaving, he flips out and blames Summer for getting Jon to leave the space.

 

[Punitive Castration]

Great reaction image.

iirc TJ changed the name but now that I'm looking at the name he supposedly changed it to, I can't get that page to come up either.

 

[Jobama]

 

[no-exit]

Oliver gay.

Oliver pray

 

[Mr Sister]

Jimmy donating to Trisha's stream to seethe (I assume this is actually him)
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I don’t like that this post is highlighted, and that no one is rating it dumb. It is dumb, I got tricked

 

[joker jimmy]

Are we going to address how attractive pneumonia has been going into Josiecel levels of obsession over Tay in his posts or nah?

This has been the case since chat, remember? It’s funny and he’s harmless but definitely obsession level

 

[Devil's Avocado]

Everybody probably already knows this, but Summer has had a PG thread for a while now and she has been sperging out in both her thread (she got verified and un-threadbanned yesterday/earlier today) and her profile. She doesn't want to hang out with us in the FishChat though

 

[no-exit]

apparently taylor has fallen victim to the iconic OBS screen capture source mistake, and /bant/ is on the case. I'm trying to piece this probably inconsequential shit together, just grabbing screenshots in case. I wasn't around for S1, but someone mentioned that this is like the josie/winston situation idk. Reading this might give you autism, beware
https://archived.moe/bant/thread/19572887/#19572973
https://archive.org/details/bigolmtwndew-2024-02-12-just-chatting
telegram timestamp at 1h 28min

a lot of her viewers are around for TJ, worst case scenario is that Sam might accidentally be right when he said Taylor was acting and Taylor simpbux dries up. its probably nothing serious, but everyone is starved for content so /bant/ is sleuthing it up
EDIT:
tfw Sam Hide underpays you

 

[importantman2010]

There’s this really annoying podcaster/rapper?/clout shark guy on Twitter named Izzy N Griffin who interviewed summer as well running around trying to interview or clout farm off any fish tank clinger on he can. There’s an entire clout eco system that has developed around this shit of people desperate to be connected to Sam in some way.

This is all totally unrelated, but this is funny to me. I made this account to say I was interested in who izzy is because I've been in "the fishtank community" since it started and I've never heard of him and holy shit dude.
This guy is so fucking desperate for any type of fame.
I think what he's trying to do is, instead of picking one "creative" thing to hone in on and get good at, he's trying to be a jack of all trades. Ending up at a master of none.

some of my favorite selections from browsing his Twitter:
Him claiming nick Mullens father is in the DOD

Despite federal connections he still is a fan

Selling merch kind of connected to jet? Obviously not him

His music sucks too

Despite all of this, i do hope this is all a weird "marketing tactic" because if not then this borders on lolcow territory.

 

[montzym]

worst case scenario is that Sam might accidentally be right when he said Taylor was acting and Taylor simpbux dries up.

Why is it a bad scenario that a lying whore stops earning money from lying? And what type of people ever considered that Taylor wasn't acting? Autists, downies?

Cute freeloader enters the house and starts following around the spastic, non-verbal freak (who also happens to be Goran's script main character), and then follows him around for days until she leaves. Why would any normal person think she wasn't told to do that? She rejected his advances and was creeped out by him; last day in the tank she looked like a kidnap victim following around his armed kidnapper in a store; when she left she looked so happy, production had to tell her to not say goodbyes and just go to the basement cause she was all smiles; and if that wasn't enough, her old photos surfaced showing the cute, prude girl was a disguise, she's actually a bisexual, goth semen demon.

If you ever believed she wasn't following wigger crew directives at all times, and that relationship had anything real in it, you are very autistic or have down syndrome, a literal retard; if you still believe it, your levels of retardation are even worse, you are a danger to society, you need to be executed asap before you snap.