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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 61 7.7%
  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 92 11.6%
  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 180 22.6%
  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 412 51.8%
  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 50 6.3%

  • Total voters
    795
One of the things I really hope not to see in season 3 is the terrible forced relationship stuff we saw during season 2. Brian and Trish pretending to have sex was just lame.
I'm sort of mixed on this. I think they need to be told pretank, before they actually start, that hooking up is fine. I hate giving jet/sam the benefit of the doubt here, but I do believe they felt like the fish thought it wasn't allowed in season one, but they over corrected in s2.


s3 i wish they'd keep airsoft fatty/chris to a day or two here or there, he's way too annoying to let campout for a week or more.
 
The forced romance was bad in S1 one and it was bad in S2. Though I did think it was funny when Trish said Brian was too pushy and the TTS told him to take a hint and move the beds apart.

I doubt they'll stop in S3, if anything they will probably go harder since they're going to get professional casting done, I'm sure they'll find at least two people willing to fake a romance and make out and stuff.
 
Out of curiosity, I went to check streamlabs that belong to S2 fishtank contestant to see how much money they are making so far.

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Perhaps the most surprising fish to get the most paypigs. Trisha pulled a total of $813.14 USD on her first stream.

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Combined with the amount of money he got from his second and third stream tonight, Shinji pulled a total $314.00 USD which is decent for a midnight stream.

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TJ only got $120.00 USD for his first stream. It's not looking good for him, but fortunately he decided to not be a full-time streamer, and he still got 50k that he hasn't split with Fatty yet.

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Jimmy was only able to pull a total of $56.26 USD from his streams. I expected him to make more money, to be honest, because he was the content generator for a few weeks before he got kicked.

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I don't know how much money he made the previous month because he was given an early head start because he got out early, but for this month he was able to gather $41.00 USD from his streams.

EDIT: As for Meg, I wasn't able to count her income from her streams because she wasn't using streamlabs. I will try to post Cole's and Tay's income if they finish putting their streamlabs up.
 
The forced romance was bad in S1 one and it was bad in S2. Though I did think it was funny when Trish said Brian was too pushy and the TTS told him to take a hint and move the beds apart.

I doubt they'll stop in S3, if anything they will probably go harder since they're going to get professional casting done, I'm sure they'll find at least two people willing to fake a romance and make out and stuff.
I expect there to be more just because the wiggers seem to actively hate their audience and do things to specifically piss them off.
 
it is supposed to be "It was hard watching her getting eliminated" my bad, fixing it now. It was when someone asked was anyone cried after the show ended or something like that, she said Tay cried a lot in the basement after she got eliminated and then that.

Different topic, but Shinji just said the Onlyfans girl, Jackie messages him a lot.
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She's trying to make him subscribe to her Onlyfans lmao. Apparently, he already subscribed to her Onlyfans which is free he said
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Its possible that it's some management company agent DM'ing him.
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I have to say, the Fishtank cams were a lot more flattering to Trish than whatever camera she uses to stream. Also, of course Sam stunk. How many times do you think he washed that Goldstriker suit? I can probably count the times with one hand and have most if not all of my fingers closed.
 
I have to say, the Fishtank cams were a lot more flattering to Trish than whatever camera she uses to stream. Also, of course Sam stunk. How many times do you think he washed that Goldstriker suit? I can probably count the times with one hand and have most if not all of my fingers closed.
Also Sam being offputting to the contestants is, at times, the joke. Half of Sam's thing is making people uncomfortable.
 
I can probably count the times with one hand and have most if not all of my fingers closed.
I mean to be fair everyone and everything stunk, they were the constantly hurling, hurling rotten eggs, sewage was bad….. fatty. I’m sure after awhile Sam was the least smelly, he didn’t even get egged or spoiled milk on him.
 
Am I crazy or does she have a point, sort of. everyone else I've seen has politely declined from commenting on her because it's below them or it's just not worth kicking her around at this point. Either that or kept it light, like, yeah she went a little crazy but we wish her the best, or whatever. Like, just steer clear of the crash in motion, don't stick your head right into it

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Perhaps it's not fair of her to ask because she foisted it on him during the show and while he was still in the tank, but lately he's the one instigating for sure. Vance honestly had a lot more room to complain about Letty being that he's in a long term relationship and Letty did that whole "oooh we're locked in here together is that what you wannnnnnted" and played "gay" chicken with him on his last day and he didn't say a fuckin word about it after the show.

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Personally I disagree he's definitely come for her harder than the rest have but that's relative.
 
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Summer needs to be forcibly medicated and put in an asylum where she can't falsely accuse people of rape and be an overall subhuman.
 
Like, just steer clear of the crash in motion.
My guess is Shinji doesn't care or understand. The scope of her mental illness is greater than anything he's experienced in Japan, probably. He might think she's just LARPing or playing hard to get or something to that effect. Even if she is just acting out to some extent, she's still mentally ill and he's adding fuel to fire for no good reason. I don't think he has that dog in him to be cruel and continually poke the bear, and maybe after auctioning that drawing he'll avoid Summer entirely. But she'll remember this for a while, he'll soon find out.
 
Am I crazy or does she have a point, sort of. everyone else I've seen has politely declined from commenting on her because it's below them or it's just not worth kicking her around at this point. Either that or kept it light, like, yeah she went a little crazy but we wish her the best, or whatever. Like, just steer clear of the crash in motion, don't stick your head right into it

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Perhaps it's not fair of her to ask because she foisted it on him during the show and while he was still in the tank, but lately he's the one instigating for sure. Vance honestly had a lot more room to complain about Letty being that he's in a long term relationship and Letty did that whole "oooh we're locked in here together is that what you wannnnnnted" and played "gay" chicken with him on his last day and he didn't say a fuckin word about it after the show.
She does kind of have a point. Summer clearly does have a mental illness and Shinji is aware of that due to be being exposed to it. He should either cut all ties because of that or try to maintain a distant friendship with her like some other fish have. Continually acknowledging her mental illness while also continuously poking the bear is just retarded.

While we’re on the topic are we aware what fish are distancing themselves from her and what fish view her as a friend? I know JC stops into Summer’s streams to say hey sometimes. I also know that during Cole’s tier list stream he told the chat that he wouldn’t demean her, said she was his friend, and jokingly called himself a Summer defender.
 
She does kind of have a point. Summer clearly does have a mental illness and Shinji is aware of that due to be being exposed to it. He should either cut all ties because of that or try to maintain a distant friendship with her like some other fish have. Continually acknowledging her mental illness while also continuously poking the bear is just retarded.

While we’re on the topic are we aware what fish are distancing themselves from her and what fish view her as a friend? I know JC stops into Summer’s streams to say hey sometimes. I also know that during Cole’s tier list stream he told the chat that he wouldn’t demean her, said she was his friend, and jokingly called himself a Summer defender.
Trish last night was pretty patronizing about Summer but in a girl way. They were roommates and they had a little tiff the day before Summer left and I think Trish probably has the most cause to find her grating. It was something very like "I hope she's doing better, I know we didn't really get along but no hard feelings..........." or whatever

Brian was in a Twitter space with Summer, he's being very polite to the point of basically seeming like he's trying to be an absolute professional about it. Completely impersonal niceness. A very you couldn't possibly do anything to fuck with me or harm my reputation at this point so I'm beyond being magnanimous or generous or charitable and into just straight up on-good-terms with you sort of mood. You wouldn't even guess he'd ever shouted at her. Probably doing it the best of anyone.

Jimmy is... Jimmy. I think if she lived closer to him they'd be fucking already. Talked to her in a space and did that deep-voiced melodramatic vibrato thing, "I hope you're doing well, I care about you (no homo)" etc etc and Summer was in his Q&A on Discord going "I care a lot about Jimmy and I want to see him succeed"

Tay I don't think commented much at all. I bet the lesbian stuff is still a sore spot. Kind of funny that her reaction to it is that bad.

Cole's opinions: described her as having "Moody moments" and said she was the most attractive and extremely cute. About the hospital stay, "I have no idea, I haven't followed up with that." Which is probably the most appropriate response, to just not do any research at all or give a shit.
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TJ barely interacted with her in the tank and hasn't said anything that I recall. I think Meg and Summer interacted briefly in that Jimmy Q&A and it was just like, hi<3 lol.
 
You guys are fucking retarded lol, this sites entire raison d'etre is laughing at mentally unwell people. Shinji making fun of her and calling her crazy is will within his right, the bitch was talking about how she loved him and shit for weeks on end. He didn't dig into her for a hours on end, he said she was a yandere and was talking about auctioning off her shitty doodle. She's fucking bananas, treating people like her with kiddy gloves is half the reason why we have so many looney toons walking around feeling empowered; nobody has the guts in their life to tell them they're crazy and retarded. Shinji has no obligation to be nice or even polite to her lol, especially since she isn't above throwing out false rape claims.

VANCE FUCKING CRIED.
 
Cole's opinions: described her as having "Moody moments" and said she was the most attractive and extremely cute. About the hospital stay, "I have no idea, I haven't followed up with that." Which is probably the most appropriate response, to just not do any research at all or give a shit.
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>Summer, Josie and himself in S tier

Further proof Cole is a complete retard.
 
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