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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 65 8.1%

  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 93 11.5%

  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 183 22.7%

  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 414 51.4%

  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 51 6.3%
  • Total voters
    806
Chongqing said:
Considering that three of them left almost immediately (four if you count Damiel), I have to agree. The cast was kind of shit.
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Punitive Castration said:
I wouldn't go as far as to say "the cast was shit," just that even though they were able to pull together some crazy personalities, a solid majority either quit earlier than they should have or tried to sleep through the show to win it. They had standouts but on the whole the casting wasn't lucky.

They need strivers and clout chasers who they can punish. Letty was a lucky get because she evidently hates clout but was just having fun in a regimented, stimulating environment unlike whatever depressing things she does at home. But normal people need to actually give a fuck about the carrot at the end of the show in order to be interesting and that wasn't most of the s1 cast.
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I hope they make good on the larger prize pool, normal people wouldn't typically deal with the level of abuse that Letty and less so Sylvia got.

Also perhaps they could try treating the men a little more harshly this season? I only bring up the topic of gender because save for Josie, Letty and Sylvia didn't really have it easy when compared to the other men in the show and ft chat was just an incel wet dream, they had so much sway in the direction the show would go in. My concern is that if its a majority male cast, s2 will just end up being total Jet buddy sim since ft chat wants to buddy up with the bois. But if you go half and half the risk there is the female contestants catch onto how easy the males will have it and they'll just be more likely to collectively give up early since the game is gonna be rigged.

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Devil's Avocado said:
Yes. Explained by Jet's father (yep, his father was also a profilic /r9k/ poster):
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So is that why he charges an arm and a leg for the most basic shit? Repressed daddy issues?
 
Sicko Hunter said:
I don't think there is any actual evidence Sam was ever trying to pitch the show to a major network. Seems like a rumor people made up.
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He said it himself in one of the podcasts before the show started. Pretty sure he was talking to Nick and mentioned that he was hoping to sell it to a network when it was finished. That's why it was a surprise when he walked in on the first day and said hard R nigger, as if he was intentionally sabotaging his own chances, as he's known to do. I don't think it was ever a super serious idea but he definitely was considering it a possibility and so was Jet. I'm not making it up but I would need to sift through possibly six 2+ hour podcasts to find the the thirty second clip.

Sam had big plans for FT before it launched and when it wrapped he said he was going to do ten more seasons. He probably doesn't feel that enthusiastic about it anymore.
 
Noble Redditor said:
He said it himself in one of the podcasts before the show started. Pretty sure he was talking to Nick and mentioned that he was hoping to sell it to a network when it was finished. That's why it was a surprise when he walked in on the first day and said hard R nigger, as if he was intentionally sabotaging his own chances, as he's known to do. I don't think it was ever a super serious idea but he definitely was considering it a possibility and so was Jet. I'm not making it up but I would need to sift through possibly six 2+ hour podcasts to find the the thirty second clip.
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ehhhhhh....are you absolutely 100% without a single shred of doubt certain that he wasn't joking or being sarcastic?
 
Sounds like from what you are saying Noble Redditor it's something he just said off the cuff but was never serious about. Like you said the fact he was dropping hard N's nearly from the first day meant he had pretty much given up on that idea by the time the show started.
 
Devil's Avocado said:
Is it only me or did someone else obviously write this tweet for him? It seems weirdly too coherent and grammatically correct considering his usual writing style.
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Jon definitely isn't the type to know how to use a semicolon properly. Many theorize he uses ChatGPT any time that his writing looks coherent. He has posted some poems and shit before which seemed AI written.
 
Logic said:
ehhhhhh....are you absolutely 100% without a single shred of doubt certain that he wasn't joking or being sarcastic?
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I took it as him truly considering it an honest possibility. I'm not trying to take a big stance on it either way, I'm just going off my memory which could be wrong, and I can't prove it so I guess it doesn't really matter. He was thinking that the edited cut could stand on its own, separate from the livestream, and would be successful outside of the usual MDE sphere.
 
Sicko Hunter said:
Finished watching the extras and I feel confident again in saying Chris saved the second half of Fishtank. I think Frank's appearance which was hugely hyped up during the airing was underwhelming. Like it was fine he did stir up shit in the house but his shtick is very simple. Throw things off of tables and fuck with people. Chris did better because he is genuine.
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This. Holy fuck the whole self-defense diatribe about lights, shadows, whole foods, horses and cougar analogy was just bizarre. I genuinely love the way Chris behaves. And yeah as people have said in this thread the episodes are getting better and Jet finally got around to putting out 1 hour long episodes, one thing I don't understand is why make the extras have less editing in them just because, I feel they could at least put subtitles but apparently Jet and the other editors just don't feel like it.
Blitzsneed said:
He wants to see you kill yourself for using this forum lmao
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/r9k/ poster with all this self-aggrandizing and grandstanding. Honestly don't understand how in this aspect he lacks the self-awareness to some capacity.
Logic said:
After reflecting a bit on some of what Sicko Hunter has said regarding Jet in previous posts, I'm going to go and play a little devil's advocate here. While I don't like Jet myself I think a bone should be thrown to him at least when considering his reaction to criticism. He is an amateur who's young and in his 20's going up against a torrent of criticism as the head of a major project for the first time. I don't think its farfetched to say he's not very well equipped to properly deal with that as its very likely nobody thinks to prepare you for that aspect of putting yourself in the spotlight. I hope he gets a small moment to catch his breath so he can recover, reflect, and improve.
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He just needs to own up his mistakes honestly and/or fix them silently and lastly not shit on people criticizing him. Simple as.
curbside2 said:
At this point the only thing that can fix the situation is dedicated fans creating a cut that embodies the spirit of the show
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I've been thinking a lot about this. I've seen a handful of youtube fishtank recap videos and most of them are really enjoyable. A good edit of the livestream would come out of a fan initiative most certainly. Jet seems to think a lot about what HE finds funny and not what WE find funny, when in reality it should be a healthy mix of both.
Devil's Avocado said:
Simon immediately called Ben out on his bullshit.
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Love how in almost every one of Ben's lies no one believes them or thinks much about them, except Jon of course.
 
Noble Redditor said:
I took it as him truly considering it an honest possibility. I'm not trying to take a big stance on it either way, I'm just going off my memory which could be wrong, and I can't prove it so I guess it doesn't really matter. He was thinking that the edited cut could stand on its own, separate from the livestream, and would be successful outside of the usual MDE sphere.
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Well there's nothing wrong with speculation so long as you acknowledge it. You wrote with so much confidence I mistakenly assumed you were asserting this as facts lol.

Mr Sister said:
He has posted some poems
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why? what is the thought process behind this. I wish I could have seen some of them...
 
At least Jets admitting he screwed up. I watched the first four episodes the other night and he really missed a ton of the greatest hits. I think the show misses a lot without watching live either in this thread or just talking with friends about it. Even though Jets been a bitch and an asshole lately I haven't given up hope, fingers crossed that season 2 hits the ground running.
 
Mr. Manchester said:
At least Jets admitting he screwed up. I watched the first four episodes the other night and he really missed a ton of the greatest hits. I think the show misses a lot without watching live either in this thread or just talking with friends about it. Even though Jets been a bitch and an asshole lately I haven't given up hope, fingers crossed that season 2 hits the ground running.
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He should genuinely consider rebooting. Scrapping what's here and starting over. Too much has been fucked up. Six episodes to make an okay but flawed episode is not acceptable. Frank said that Jet fired his editor. Stupid move as Frank's editor is what saves his content.
 
curbside2 said:
He should genuinely consider rebooting. Scrapping what's here and starting over. Too much has been fucked up. Six episodes to make an okay but flawed episode is not acceptable. Frank said that Jet fired his editor. Stupid move as Frank's editor is what saves his content.
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That's really weird, I imagine going through a 6 weeks worth of steady footage would take a lot of people. I remember when fishtank wrapped up there were a couple youtubers that did a recap of all the major events and some of them were really good. Maybe he could wrap this up and just make a 3 hour movie or something. I feel like this is the sort of thing people are going to binge watch anyway.
 
Mr. Manchester said:
At least Jets admitting he screwed up. I watched the first four episodes the other night and he really missed a ton of the greatest hits. I think the show misses a lot without watching live either in this thread or just talking with friends about it. Even though Jets been a bitch and an asshole lately I haven't given up hope, fingers crossed that season 2 hits the ground running.
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I'd give him more credit if it didn't take Frank confronting him somewhat publicly over things the viewers & fans have been rightfully criticizing him for months for which he deflected from and began insulting them and has been just absolutely seething over.
 
Sam's browsing twitter on stream (content), he paged over this tweet from Jon and said very dryly: "I like that Jon is helping, here. This is very helpful. Thank you Jon."

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unrelated but every time they say silly billy instead of faggot I laugh like it's the first time I've heard them do it
 
Punitive Castration said:
A word from Jet #fishtanklive.mp4
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I think that’s the best apology we can really expect out of him, he’s not the kind of guy that would get down on his knees and beg for forgiveness.
It was nice that even after Sam gave his excuse (which honestly was a better one than “still learning”), Jet said they do have paying customers while looking over to Sam as if he felt the line wasn’t completely approved.
 
Logic said:
why? what is the thought process behind this.
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who knows, man.
Logic said:
I wish I could have seen some of them...
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https://twitter.com/JontentG/status/1718068215992213951 | https://archive.vn/w7vaD
https://twitter.com/JontentG/status/1697851610658128082 | https://archive.vn/Rxwww
https://twitter.com/JontentG/status/1718068212401885520 | https://archive.vn/6rvKA
I thought he had some that people accused him of using chatGPT to write in the comments, but must he have deleted those or I am misremembering since these have no comments
 
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