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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 58 7.4%
  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 91 11.7%
  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 177 22.7%
  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 408 52.2%
  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 47 6.0%

  • Total voters
    781
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Everything on /bant/ should be taken with a pinch of salt but Abi probably does read the thread obsessively judging by how fast she responded yesterday to posts about her.


Damn we really need new content in the Fishtank sphere if the most interesting thing that's happened all week was one of the 3 crazy women from the show sperging out about us
 
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Everything on /bant/ should be taken with a pinch of salt but Abi probably does read the thread obsessively judging by how fast she responded yesterday to posts about her.


Damn we really need new content in the Fishtank sphere if the most interesting thing that's happened all week was one of the 3 crazy women from the show sperging out about us
What sucks is that I’m not excited for season 2.5 at all. It seems very theme based and their track record for that is poor. Season 2 had a lot of great ideas conceptually. But then Sam’s schizo religious mode kicked in and he abandoned it all for being “evil”. Sorry Sam, exploiting impressionable youths and hurting their future prospects is what makes you evil. Hopefully he follows through in the future and stops acting like a faggot.
 
Season 2 had a lot of great ideas conceptually. But then Sam’s schizo religious mode kicked in and he abandoned it all for being “evil”.
Sam abandoning the cult theme because of some gay moral conflict in his head was such a big mistake. The 70s were basically the peak of cult groups it fit perfectly with the house and also the attic looked like it was made for it. It also made no sense this is the same guy who literally paid fatty a mentally disabled obese man to humiliate himself on camera it's not like he's a moral or Christian values type person.
 
There's nothing worse than having such a big fucking bit then not delivering on it and scrapping it half way through. Even if it was just dissapointingly executed it'd've been better than scrapping it.
 
After saying he was just going to use the money he raised to visit Taylor to visit Trish Greg is now saying that he used the money on his rent because Trish took too long to get back to him.
 
sperging out about us
plenty of cows sperg about us but no one's ever tried love bombing us yet, i remember one streamer tried that with 4chan during /b/'s height and it destroyed his life, but i haven't seen a streamer go "i love the farms and will follow most of their advice" yet
 
Would you guys be interested in joining a space with the people on /bant/? It would be an honor to have people from (Kiwifarms) here speak to those in the /ftl/ & /ftl2/ & possibly the rest of the MDE fandom. Since you already know content has been dry. (Until Scott's stream with Shinji)
 
Damn we really need new content in the Fishtank sphere if the most interesting thing that's happened all week was one of the 3 crazy women from the show sperging out about us
There is news with Josie's fans but I've avoided posting about it since I doubt anyone here cares. I'm bored right now though and it's interesting enough so here it is.

Summary: A little bit of leakage happened showing that some of her "top" fans are what you'd expect.
  • At least a few fans likely intend to coerce Josie, in person, into joining their Discord, scheming in a hidden/exclusive channel.
  • Q4L talks like a "groomer" and seems to want a girl named Emilie to be brought to Japan for him.
  • Damage control has been run, mostly on 4chan. No refutations, however.
  • Some of Josie's fans follow her mom's private Twitter and are followed back, meaning they can see what her mom Tweets. This gives them access to exclusive pictures of Josie, or as they call them "wosies."

I'll give some context as I go. There's a lot to cover and some of it may not make sense so if something doesn't make sense feel free to point it out.


It started on Monday with these messages. Note his plain white name which likely indicates he wasn't in the server when these were taken.
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I did a summary of Q4L (Queso4Life) when he was nominated "Top Bloke" for a week in an old stream. He's no longer active in the main circles and apparently was banned from their Discord. He still makes face in pre-stream chat but doesn't chat like he used to nor does he post on 4chan. He's still silently active on Twitter, however.
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A brief summary, Q4L has posted about Josie since day 1 of Season 1 and has collected well over 10,000 images of her, including pictures from her family's and friends' social media. He of course named himself after Queso, the doll she had with her during Season 1, and used to talk about and allude to things he wanted to do to/with Josie but once he gained notoriety and had a name he stopped and was suddenly heckin' wholesome. From then on he tried to portray himself as a superfan and nothing more.
It is difficult to convey how obsessed he has been with Josie. He worked with other fans to make a Muse Dash clone (itch.io | Steam) that Josie played on stream, posted about her daily for over 6 months, likely continues privately, and has altered his entire life around her schedule.

The girl he wants to "smoke and watch mlp with" is the same girl in the stream Tyson/Lance did. Q4L is studying abroad in Japan and has said repeatedly in stream chat that Josie needs to go to Japan, for some context. Also worth pointing out some other fans are going and of course Q4L wants to meet Josie in person. I'd wager Emilie is/was in the Japan trip group and he wants to hang out with her as well because he's a creep and was apparently saying some weird stuff to her in their Discord, from which he's been grooming her.
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There's more to all of that but I think the context is too boring to include. Her Twitter is @hoppyfroggys which is deactivated for now.
In short, it sounds like she was going to Japan with someone else and in classic weirdo fashion he couldn't contain his excitement and was removed from part of the community. Keep this in mind.
Vicnoodle (Twitter) has mentioned he'll be going to Japan this summer which leads me to believe she would be going with him, making this all much stranger. This trip spurred on people trying to get Josie to go, which she acknowledged by saying it's too hot to go during summer.

I appreciate whoever made my job easier of getting some classic Q4L quotes from nearly a year ago.
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Bonus, he's the reply.
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More leaks were dropped in the same thread, seemingly inspired by the Q4L Discord leaks above.
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Twitter Profiles


Everyone pictured here is a fan going back to season 1. Vicnoodle went to the Mondo party in New York to meet Josie, along with AndyjackV who will be relevant later. Vic also sends a lot of super chats via Streamlabs, sometimes even when there's no stream that day. In the 3rd picture you can see Dokkaebi wants Josie in the server but is also against adding many other fans, saying they have "the coolest ppl" already.

Dokkaebi is easy to identify in the 4chan threads due to his German flag with broken English. His initial response was to throw Luke and umz (both met Josie at Game On Expo) under the bus, claiming the leaked pictures are from a shitpost channel. He claims Luke "sneaked into the only girls channel" and multiple people mention a "girl's channel" so it sounds like they actually do have a girl's only chat (that some of them snoop on) which is weird enough on its own.
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Dokkaebi is another a long time simp that has posted less and less on 4chan and it's obvious he popped in to run damage control. Worth noting he's second to Q4L for pathetic josieposting on 4chan, having his own massive collection of images. He can't keep his story straight, as we'll see. There's more to him but he just seems like a pathetic guy trying to be the next fake "superfan" with ulterior motives and probably has more in common with Q4L than he cares to admit.
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Apparently Dokkaebi sent this pic to Josie and was upset when she didn't respond to it.
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Normally I wouldn't even acknowledge this because it's so pathetic it has to be a troll... yet it turned out to be true and Dokkaebi felt it was worth boasting about. He also bragged about another DM he sent being read and getting a response.
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More recently he posted this.
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In the leak he described it as a "mod channel" then on 4chan as a "shitpost channel" and finally as a "recruiting channel." I've been around internet chats, it's clearly the "janny" channel where the janny personalities talk privately and scheme for their own benefit. In classic Janny fashion, people said there were a lot of bans from the server recently which probably motivated or were motivated by the leaks.

I can't blame Josie for not wanting to check her DMs with fans like this.


Earlier I mentioned AndyjackV (aka tankwatching) who some people have probably seen if they keep up with Fishtank on Twitter. He not only went to the Mondo party but also went to Furry Weekend Atlanta recently where Josie shot a video and was seen in a few shots of her edited video which upset some fans. He tweeted one of the leaked pictures earlier, fanning the flames.
He's had his own falling out with some of the notorious Joisecels so is probably enjoying the show. He's a Fishtank fan and Josie fan and there's some autistic bad blood in there somewhere.
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It's been made clear that some Josie fans are followed by Josie's mom's private twitter account. This means they can see her privated tweets which include exclusive pictures of Josie. It's worth pointing out that they've been nabbing Josie's mom's Youtube PFPs for awhile now since her mom uses pictures of Josie for those.

On Wednesday Josie was sick and her mom privately tweeted a picture of Josie curled up in bed. I think it's obvious Josie is unaware of this picture being taken so you can only imagine how she'd feel knowing her mom also shared it with her weirdo fans.
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This has actually been apparent for awhile, they've shared a few of these exclusive pics on 4chan. Essentially, if it's a picture Josie is obviously not paying attention in, her mom probably took it. Their response to this wasn't that following her mom is a strange thing to do, it was being upset they were found out.
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I can't verify this but, like with all of the leaks, there's no one saying otherwise and it isn't surprising.
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Keep in mind these people talk with Josie's mom and aunt in stream chat as well and don't take issue with any of this. They've even prodded for childhood stories and "lore." If you think that's weird, well you're just jealous!
 
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Abi was my favorite freeloader tbh. She didn't overshadow the contestants with a strong personality or loud mouth, but did an excellent job causing discord and bringing out different facets of the fish. She just waltzed in, permanently altered the social dynamics of the tank, got malleted, and left. She's a walking drama bomb.

Would you guys be interested in joining a space with the people on /bant/? It would be an honor to have people from (Kiwifarms) here speak to those in the /ftl/ & /ftl2/ & possibly the rest of the MDE fandom. Since you already know content has been dry. (Until Scott's stream with Shinji)
Anyone interested in posting on /bant/ is already there.
 
Abi was my favorite freeloader tbh. She didn't overshadow the contestants with a strong personality or loud mouth, but did an excellent job causing discord and bringing out different facets of the fish. She just waltzed in, permanently altered the social dynamics of the tank, got malleted, and left. She's a walking drama bomb.


Anyone interested in posting on /bant/ is already there.
That's fine. I was only asking if the important posters here would be interested in going on the space to talk about the show and possibly bring in any more fish/freeloaders for questions. Otherwise, you guys/gals have a good day!
 
Would you guys be interested in joining a space with the people on /bant/? It would be an honor to have people from (Kiwifarms) here speak to those in the /ftl/ & /ftl2/ & possibly the rest of the MDE fandom. Since you already know content has been dry. (Until Scott's stream with Shinji)

no that's gay

Anyway here's my notes from that Twitter space the other day. It was Jimmy, Taylor, Betty was in there listening. I have to give kudos to the people running it because Jimmy is a terrible interview subject if he's not guided but very interesting as long as he is, and they actually did a really good job picking up various topics and presenting them to him in a "I know your opinion about x, but have you thought about this perspective on x?" or demanding he explain what he means when he's vague. Twitter spaces have normalized this style of conversation, of being overly-nice to get people to Borat their way into saying more than they should have, they did that a bit to great effect.
On Jon claiming to be Jewish - he has deduced that Jon is trolling. Whoa
[*]On Greg - Greg has a harder time dealing with 4chan-type-people than everyone else and if he appears to be struggling lately that is likely why
[*]Signs everything he sends people because it's funny and the things he's sending are already pretty damaged. Signed everything he sent to Tayleigh so that if she doesn't want something she can sign it too and then it would have more value to a buyer.
[*]On the Synanon/Utah program similarity - has watched The Program on Netflix recently and liked it and wants people to watch it. On stream he said something about watching it and described watching it as "trauma maxing" or something like that because it was hard to re-live.
  • Says not feeding the cast and not letting them sleep are what were most similar to his experiences in Utah.
  • He said he was most worried about them putting him in solitary as that is his most traumatizing experience in that program and that he warned them explicitly not to do thatto him in pre-show interviews.
    • (He's said before that they had an idea to put him in actual solitary confinement anyway if the beef with TJ that ended in him leaving never happened and it would've been idiotic because if they had done that he would've had a medical episode).
  • On "the vibes are off" and satanic vibes - Jimmy said it's because "someone" decided to lean into the abusive parts of the Synanon cult themeing "which was a disaster." They ask who "someone" is and he said no comment
    • objectively it was jet
  • They didn't do "attack therapy" in Utah like they did on the show but he did have a "sociologist" who he said basically did the same thing
[*]Someone asked him if his trauma about solitary is why he said he doesn't like the doghouse and he said no the doghouse isn't similar to solitary. However he hated it because "you can't do anything" when you're there and it reminds him of "fetish shit" and made him think that "someone's getting their rocks off behind the camera"
[*]On "scripting" - while giving the caveat that he's not contesting that TJ won, says that scripting was bad and if they're going to do it they at least have to be more subtle about it. Thinks the way they went about making people into villains was too forced.
[*]On "abusing women" - someone asked how it felt for him to watch the show from the outside and he said, even though (he alludes to certain individuals likely in production or specific trolls) some people called him out for abusing women on the show, Jimmy thinks the treatment of Tayleigh was targeted and hypocritical in that light. He said it was hard to watch the show at times because of how they were pushing her and how he wanted to be there to (so sappy) help her.
  • Says the tone of Season one was much lighter and that's what he was ready for and hoping for, says the worst thing that happened in season one was Fatty charging at Letty or Damiel throwing out all her stuff and it doesn't compare to nearly anything that happened in Season two.
[*]Wants to stream with Shinji, he found a VHS on Japanese trains and wants to watch it with him, but "doesn't want to bother him"
[*]Someone joked about "diverse casting" for 2.5, Jimmy said he'll lynch them by their nutsack. They said "what about Duanyay?!" and Jimmy said Duanyay was a merit hire and he recognized that while everyone else was still being racist.
[*]Thinks Mauro "might" be there
[*]On Abi
  • Said she has been threatening his fans, claiming he threatened to dox her (What he said was "if I was as evil as she makes me out to be, I would have doxed her already" or something to that effect which is sort of a threat but also a good point... and also a moot point now)
  • Called her a retard and says she wouldn't leave him alone when he asked her to stop. Called her a "brat" and says she lied about her age but she's 24 or 25 and played up acting like a child to hide that fact.
  • On Abi vs Greg vs Taylor: "does this mean taylor and greg both won" "I guess?"
[*]Taylor joins
  • He says they "Got off on the wrong foot." Says she was nice. Felt bad and says he should've just kept going with the hot dog eating until he threw up. Doesn't know what she was doing though. TTS said she was Mormon and he believed it. Said he was panicking because of the pressure and the vomit and the cigarettes.
    • Taylor says it smelled horrible. Says in the moment she didn't care but right afterwards she was crying in the basement. But they made up ages ago and they're cool now. He is the one she talks to most from Fishtank besides TJ.
  • On TJ's arm injury - he's ok but she doesn't know how much he wants people to know about it
    • Jimmy replied something about fat ropey autistic Tarzan cock
    • She said she was gonna leave to vacuum her house and someone asked her before she leaves "does this mean abi and greg lose" and she quit without answering
[*]Thinks Nifty was a "replacement" for Cole because they were both protected by production but he likes Cole more
  • Nifty tried to have Jimmy arrested for touching her face and production warned him to avoid the internet to avoid that situation. Jimmy said he was too forward with Nifty because he wanted $1500. When he told Nifty that he was promised $1500 and isn't attracted to her at all Sam cracked up. "No means no."
[*]When asked if he would win in a boxing match against Tay he says he would win but solely due to biological advantage
[*]Mephisto was in there, someone asked him about what bits he wrote and he said he wrote on the manifesto for Jimmy to refer to the black Frank as "brotha" and it backfired because now Jimmy won't stop calling him "brotha Goon"
[*]Admits he was an "annoying little shit" in emails and that's why they let him bring so much crap in the house
  • Jimmy would forward the messages to Goon after he'd sent them and say "what do you think of this" and at first Goon thought he shouldn't have sent it but the more Jimmy did it the more Goon said nah no keep sending that shit it's fire
Unrelated to FT
  • Someone sent him a used Acer Predator gaming laptop but he doesn't use it and spends a large portion of the space fucking with his 10 year old laptop. Named his new laptop "big pp mode"
  • Trump's conviction is a "crock of shit"
  • Chinese people are his least favorite Asian and Japanese are his favorite. Does not like Taiwanese people because one of them abused his sister, or South Koreans because they're vain. Vietnamese people are workable.
  • Started vacuuming during the call and everyone laughed and shouted to turn it off
  • When he went to the program his sister was still at home, he told his family how bad the program was and his parents told his sister that he was crazy. When they shipped her off to the program she came back around to him and said she realized he had been telling the truth
    • Describes her as "playing the game" because he can't fit in in certain groups and he knows she doesn't but she's better at masking it and that's why she can be a teacher
  • Says adults have been calling him a "fucking retard" since he was three
  • 20 different people kicked him in the head while he was in the program and failed to knock him out, apparently. No explanation for that and nobody asked him what the fuck that means
  • Refuses to use credit cards. Thinks his credit score is whatever it is when you are off the grid
  • Breaks down the gold off of computer chips because I guess he thinks it's worth money
    • Some guy offered to buy old tools from him, just when you start thinking nobody's gonna buy his shit
  • He has an associates in business but thinks he "doesn't have the face to get along in the corporate world"
There's more but it's starting to get derailed so I'm done listening

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I guess that's Abi deconfirmed. Badum tsh.
For real though, the longer this show goes without them learning how to deal with female cast the harder it's going to be for them to figure this out.
 
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Scott doing therapy with Shinji.

Shinji said he reactivated because someone tried to pretend to be him so he had to remake to discourage them, and Scott DMed him and that's how this happened.
  • Says in the end he got nothing
  • Feels he was tortured for 42 days
  • Is financially not better than he was
  • "cant stop regretting it"
  • Feels he is still in his room everyday same as before
  • Feels he was meaninglessly tortured for 42 days. Would have felt better if he had come out on top financially
  • Meaninglessly publicly and publicly shamed
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  • Scott is mocking him for "legletting" the show. Shinji looks visibly beat down. Scott flashed a page of his notebook as he turned the page that says I think "SHINJI IS GAY"? It was hard to read.
  • Scott asks him what would help him feel more at peace and he says he'd have to feel less greedy to feel more at peace
  • Word association game "blow" Shinji "job". Proceeds in this manner with Scott giving him dirty words that he follows up with something perverted until they get to Cleveland because Shinji doesn't know what Cleveland is.
  • Rorschach test

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"Someone fingering a dead body"
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"Gay sex tiny penis and BBC"
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"Double headed dildo"
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"Amoeba"
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This one said "Fuck you all"
  • "Coping mechanism comfort word exercise" is Scott having him repeat words back to Scott. Which is just making fun of his accent again.
  • "Lollapalooza," "elephant" "China deserved it" "I'm not sorry for Pearl Harbor" etc
  • Shinji at this point was reading a very hostile chat, nose turning red and sniffing which he wasn't doing at the start.
  • Scott "diagnoses" him with "Tankitis" and prescribes him "2 grams of fent a day" and says if things go well Shinji can "up it." Shinji thanks him for helping him stop regretting it.
They're breaking now before I assume they'll come back and stop doing a bit, but that was sorta fucked up lmao.

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  • On return, says he's "not really friends with Crash right now"
  • Doesn't feel the "mania of Sam Hyde" and isn't passionate about being involved with MDE
  • Says he will probably go back to Japan after finals for a part time job to pay for him to return to school in the next semester
  • Shinji says he's in "damage control" in his life right now when Scott gives him a lecture about how it'll get better
  • Says he did the podcast because he needed a way to get the audience to understand and endorse him
  • Is currently financially dependent on his parents. Being an escort didn't cover the cost of his tuition. Wants to become independent, then study brain-machine interface, grad school, porn matrix etc.
    • Scott tells him he has time to get his life right. Shinji asks him how Scott managed to get his life right and Scott gave a completely inapplicable lecture about how in his early 20s he was fucking around smoking weed and staying up late before work and all he had to do was stop doing was fucking around to get his life together.
  • Shinji hasn't had contact with production since Sam Hyde sent him a book. His friends forced him to text Jet to ask him to help "solve" his financial problem. Shinji felt Jet would have just "leaked" the request "like Summer's voicemail." Shinji gave his friend the phone to let him text Jet pretending to be Shinji. Shinji says there's no way they can help him in this situation anyway. And says he can't be "a person on a reality show" forever and won't be coming back to social media.
    • Scott says "Jet wouldn't leak things like that." Scott says the voicemail situation was because of "bad actors."
  • Has heard of the fake videos made using his voice and that's why he reactivated
  • Scott read a question about Yukio Mishima sent by the audience which was an attempted reference to seppuku but Shinji knows too much of the context so he just rambled about the greater historical context of Mishima and seemed to miss the insult
  • Jimmy joined the chat as Scott was trying to ask Shinji what his future plans are and said "I bring him to hoardermans and shenanigans occur"
    • Shinji says he will start from zero when he starts a new thing and not use his identity on Fishtank for it. If he started making a cooking channel he says people wouldn't watch that.
    • Scott told him he doesn't have to reset because people like him for himself
  • Shinji says streaming is tough for him and that he prefers making "short and dense" stuff like his Shorts.
  • Says he probably won't watch 2.5 because fishtank was traumatic for him and he wants to keep distant and not think back on it.
So yeah, in case anyone wanted a little preview on how casting people who don't know MDE will go...
  • Scott tried to encourage him to do it anyway and Shinji went "haha... maybe..."
 
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It's also more proof that you shouldn't go near Fishtank if you have any prospects at all.
While true I feel like Shinji handled everything the exact wrong way. I think he got fucked over but he had no idea how to use the notoriety from Fishtank to do anything with, and isolating himself now means not having a support network.

The best people for the Fish to get along with are each other. I think Jimmy and Tay seemed to have acclimated back outside well enough, and Shinji probably should have tapped into them to help. Crash being a slime ball definitely didn't help though, and probably further isolated him.
 
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