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The Rev. Dr. Megan Rohrer will make history Saturday, but it won’t be the first time.

Rohrer will be installed as bishop of the Sierra Pacific Synod of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, making them the denomination’s first out transgender bishop. Rohrer was the first out trans pastor ordained by the ELCA back in 2006, under what the church called an “extraordinary candidacy process,” as its regular ordination process did not open to out LGBTQ+ clergy for four more years. Rohrer was elected in May to a six-year term as bishop of the synod, which covers nearly 200 congregations in California and Nevada.

“I step into this role because a diverse community of Lutherans in Northern California and Nevada prayerfully and thoughtfully voted to do a historic thing,” Rohrer said in a press release. “My installation will celebrate all that is possible when we trust God to shepherd us forward.”
The installation ceremony will take place at 2 p.m. at Grace Cathedral in San Francisco. Rohrer will be joined by Elizabeth Eaton, presiding bishop of the ELCA, along with nearly all 65 bishops of the various ELCA synods across the United States. The synod staff who will serve alongside Rohrer will be installed as well. Ross Murray, an ELCA deacon and senior director of the GLAAD Media Institute, will be an assisting minister in the ceremony.

“While Bishop Rohrer’s installation is a historic step in LGBTQ leadership in the church, it is a continuation of the ministry that Bishop Rohrer has been doing for their whole ministry,” Murray said in a statement to The Advocate. “They recognize the face of God in the marginalized and the privileged, and focus their ministry on youth, the homeless, people of color, LGBTQ people, and others historically left out of the life of the church.”
Friday and Saturday will be filled with related events, including a listening session led by the Rev. Nicole Garcia, the first Latinx transgender pastor in the ELCA; a roller-skating event raising funds for a youth camp; and an interfaith memorial service commemorating the 20th anniversary of the September 11 attacks.

“The diverse events surrounding my installation point to a God who joins us in worship, on the streets, at our jobs, and when we roller-skate,” Rohrer said. “During all the difficulties we have encountered through the pandemic, it is more important than ever to celebrate joy, hope, and love everywhere that we find it.”

 

[TungstenCarbide]

Is that thing a man or a woman? I can only tell its ugly and that's not a sex.

Current cuck pope isn't any better. Old Pole and German Palpatine were way better.

When Ratzinger was Pope, the Congregazione per la Dottrina della Fede (the former Holy Inquisition), was actually talking about forbidding women to access the apsis (the part of a church where the main altar is).

They changed their minds when they realized that if they did it a lot of the Church-approved music would become impossible to execute (Bishops love their Palestrina) and, most important, that the people who clean churches are 99% female volunteers, and I still have to see a priest willing to be on his knees to clean a marble floor with the right detergent to avoid scratching it.

And I won't even start with the Sunday offers used to lend money with interest to poor people and the blatant refusal to own the mistakes the Church did about pedophilic priests...

But we have to thank the Catholic Church if in Italy gender ideology isn't taught in schools (yet), women have still a modicum of privacy (for now), and MTFs aren't screaming for pap-tests (probably they will in the future).

Edit: typos

 

[The Lawgiver]

They genuinely look in that photo like theyre wearing the ceremonial robes as a QuiRkY fashion thing that has a similar energy to halloween costume stock photos of priest costumes. Are there more people like this out there? has the same weird creepo energy this other guy I found out about who was buying out a lot of smaller churches had, but a bit less.

 

[stuffandthings]

It's something we've talked about occasionally. We're not at that point yet (again, mostly due to the insulation from the synod fucks), but it's not outside the realm of possibility. I'd rather see that than have to join another congregation; it's complicated so I won't go into all the details, but I've moved churches twice in my life, and my current one is by far the best I've ever been in. The congregation is so friendly and open, there's no cliquish behavior, and we've rarely had any drama over the years.

I do recall that there was a Missouri Synod church in the town near the college I went to, and when I first started going, the pastor there provided communion to students of all Lutheran denominations. His logic was that, as the only Lutheran church in the area, he'd rather go against church policy than deprive students of the ability to partake in communion in a Lutheran congregation every week. I didn't keep up with the church for a while, but he was replaced at some point with a pastor that took a more hardline stance and closed communion to Missouri Synod members only. I still wonder sometimes if he got in trouble with the higher-ups and got kicked out.

I totally understand. When I was in college I went to a local Missouri Synod church rather than the ELCA. Both were within walking distance. The Missouri Synod church had a card they asked people to sign before communion that basically asked them to affirm that they believed in the same things about communion that the church believed. I liked that a lot. It was ecumenical in the right way.

Such a weird thing to say on a troll forum dedicated to autism, but I'll toss a prayer for you and your church up to the man upstairs.

 

[murdered meat bag]

Stop joining denominations and this shit won’t happen. Find a church that reads the Bible together or a pastor that does exegetical preaching and then worship together. Leftists can’t infilitrate 1000s of elder councils but they can infiltrate a denominational governing apparatus. If the elders get infiltrated then find another church.

every church does this. whether theyre denominational or congression or independent megachurches all churches read the bible and sermonize the reading. this ecla diocese with the tranny bishop will read the bible together and sing the hymns. they read the bible at clown masses and dr suess mass (or whatever that methodist? church called it).

the difference between all these churches is what they believe their exegesis means. which leads to zero day defense's point about ecumencists.

Again, on the internet? I wanted to respond to this specifically, though, in order to make a tu quoque of sorts: the people who talk about the lack of necessity of divisions between Christians and how we need to come together end up being the most insufferable, in my opinion. There are legitimate reasons for said divisions, but they don't know any of that, and they even insist that God deliberately deposited bits of truth across all these traditions-- in effect, appointing themselves more or less as the only person who would know what those are and how they're supposed to be synthesized. Consistently, I've observed the rationale being used as a fancy way of defending a rootless Evangelicalism.

But, yeah, especially on the internet, you're more liable to get snobbery from anyone of any tradition (I'm surprised you never mentioned Calvinists), because the people you interact with there are more likely to be nerds who did research before accepting a particular tradition and are now more aware of points of disagreement with others. Cradle Christians of any tradition aren't going to be snobby at all unless it's along the lines of culture, probably because they don't know anything else.

ecumenecista will handwave the fact that the divisions are based on real things.

in the pca presbyteries there were plenty of heated debates in the church as to whether or not the trinity mattered. the big tent crowd would say "it doesnt matter because God is unknowable, so we cant say if God is triune with any certaintity." that sentiment dribblea down to the rest of doctrine, does hell exist, was jesus a real person, why cant we be antinomian, have female pastors and on and on.

and it always boiled down to what the person already believed and then exegesis to prove their point.

They genuinely look in that photo like theyre wearing the ceremonial robes as a QuiRkY fashion thing that has a similar energy to halloween costume stock photos of priest costumes. Are there more people like this out there? has the same weird creepo energy this other guy I found out about who was buying out a lot of smaller churches had, but a bit less.

nothing is as goofy as shower rod orthodoxy.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Never go to any church that doesn't have a statement of beliefs front and center.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

In Orthodox church we kick people out for being homosexual priests you will literally no longer be a priest if you are fagg

 

[Ow The Edge]

In Orthodox church we kick people out for being homosexual priests you will literally no longer be a priest if you are fagg

You might want to tell the Ecumenical Patriarch that. Guy obviously aspires to be another Pope Francis.

 

[Corpun]

You might want to tell the Ecumenical Patriarch that. Guy obviously aspires to be another Pope Francis.

The Ecumenical Patriarch in Greece has to cuck to Turkey. I'm serous, as per Turkish laws and treaties he has to be born in Turkey. As soon as the last few Greek Turks die off I doubt they'll have any real power as they get ignored.