US First Democratic Debates - Night one discussion ends at pg41

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Welcome to day 2 of the democratic primary debates, tonight will feature:

Joe Biden, former vice president, establishment choice and likes to sniff women


Andrew Yang, entrepreneur and reddit incarnate


Bernie Sanders, senator from Vermont


Marianne Williamson, self-help author and totally wacko


Pete Buttigieg, homo mayor of South Bend, Ind.


Michael Bennet, senator from Colorado


Kamala Harris, senator from California


John Hickenlooper, former governor of Colorado and watched "Deep Throat" with his mom in theaters when he was 20yo


Kirsten Gillibrand, senator from New York and #MeToo internet activist


Eric Swalwell, representative from California


Bernie prestream: https://live.berniesanders.com/
NBC livestream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX7hni-zGD8
Backup stream:

A new poll will be posted after the debates are done (without Trump this time for clarification), polling result from the first night:


Thanks to @Top Skink for getting the party started

 

[Ashy the Angel]

1- During the Trump Administration, there's been a significant nose-dive in the number of drone strikes. So, if this is something you have a problem with- not sure why you have a problem with Trump.

You just picked the one thing I already said I actually liked about the guy. That doesn't discount every other problem I have with him.

2- If you thought for one second that anyone on the left in the realm of politics thought that you deserved "free" health care, you're a fucking idiot and it's probably best that no doctor is burdened with the guilt of having to keep you alive. Get a job and get health insurance, it's affordable if you don't live like a fucking slob.

I do think the citizens of a country should have their basic needs taken care of by said country. The united states is one of the only western nations without singlepayer. Socializing healthcare doesn't come without problems, but it would genuinely help the people who are uninsured right now and its better and actually cheaper than our current system. I strongly disagree with the notion that if you don't have a job you don't deserve to live, which is what you appear to be saying. I want EVERYONE to have access to healthcare, whether you work or not. This is not the policy of the Republican party, so I'm not a Republican.

3- Well, now homos can get married. Not sure if anyone actually gave a flying fuck because it seems like for about a damned decade prior they could have made it the fucking law and the Republicans wouldn't have done anything but shrugged

Gay men aren't the only people who exist in America. Under Trump several departments have begun to make moves against LGBT folks.

Trump administration rolls back health care protections for LGBTQ patients

The new rule says HHS will repeal the Obama-era definition of sex protections in order to make its regulations "more consistent" with other agencies.

www.politico.com

Trump wins court victory in quest for transgender military ban

Trump administration handed small court victory in its effort to ban transgender people from serving in the US military.

www.aljazeera.com

I disagree with these things. If one party emphatically speaks about these issues in the positive and the other party "shrugs" then I'm gonna support the former. I also support things like red flag laws and preventing people who commit certain crimes from being able to own weapons.

Really, please, right now- tell me what you're lacking. Other than 'gibs me health care for free'.

Prison reform, drug decriminalization, gun control, immigration reform that doesn't consist entirely of sperging about a wall, protections for lgbt folks, wealth redistribution, singlepayer college and healthcare, and a President who isn't a living caricature of how manga portrays Americans.

 

[Superman93]

Lol calm down. They're just trying to get the Latino vote. Nothing to A-log over.

That’s why I’m angry cause it’s fucking insulting to my intelligence. Those faggots obviously rehearsed it with their shitty dialects and tone. Don’t even get me started on Cory “ no gunz or triggahs for dis house nigga” Booker over there.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Absolutely. I 100% agree with you.

Best case scenario, nothing I have noticed drastically changed under Trump. Feels the same as if Obama was president, only stuff with his name just wiped from policies.

The only reason I haven't sperged out about politics in my real life because 1) I'm new at this. 2) A chunk of people I know and respect are right leaning. And 3) I just don't want to be used as pandering for political gain because of my race.

I feel you. I too, am a fellow nigga on the farms.

Honestly, I don't think I'm going to vote again, my dude. Republicans are fucking lazy and Democrats are fucking stupid and will do anything to sucker minorities in with "muh victimhood". I hate to sorta "powerlevel", but to me, it's very, very, very fucking demotivating for these people to say that we are constantly victims and shit. As a politician, you are supposed to motivate everyone to be great, not motivate people to be great out of "muh victimhood" They literally devalue the minority everyday by trying to pander to them, especially with the reparations bullshit.

 

[The Last Stand]

A guy was asked why he didn't want the current president to be president anymore and one of the reasons is "rampant Twitter behavior." It wasn't something about skyrocketing crime, or the economy in the toilet, or another stupid war started, he doesn't like the President's banter on the internet.

That was me. And to be fair, I'm half asleep right now.

How about this? Making deals with Saudi Arabia when supposedly there's a Muslim ban and Saudi Arabia has several human right violations? Proposing tariffs towards other countries? Causing the most expensive government shutdown in American history (which I'm surprised nothing much happened)?

Behavior is important because these candidates are supposed to represent us as a nation, yet bicker and act like they're better than everybody else. And that behavior attracts others similar to that (i.e. r/The_Donald, 4chan, far left, alt-right).

I'm not going to blindly say he's doing a good job, but I'm not going to criticize without a reason.

 

[Maxliam]

Policy over person. You could apply this to a whole bunch of politicians, both left and right. Trump is a dick, but a lot of people like him because of his policies, which are a whole lot better than what the last 3 presidents have offered, especially considering he outlined them in several books.

Same with Clinton. Pretty unpopular, but people were suckered in by...whatever she had to offer.

I actually like Trump's unapologetic dickheadishness. He's an asshole, he doesn't care if you like him, and he will insult you in the crudest ways to get even with you. The guy's a monster and the kind we need to get the norks and sand niggers in line.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

I get the feeling this was set up to make Warren look good to boost her in the publics eyes after the Pocahontas deal. Just like tomorrow's debate was set up to prop Binden up so they could do a Binden+ Warren push.

but holy shit did it fail!

All the sharks are circling...they're wont be anyone left by the time Trump's done with the democrats.

 

[Maxliam]

I get the feeling this was set up to make Warren look good to boost her in the publics eyes after the Pocahontas deal. Just like tomorrow's debate was set up to prop Binden up so they could do a Binden+ Warren push.

but holy shit did it fail!

All the sharks are circling...they're wont be anyone left by the time Trump's done with the democrats.

Maybe she needs to get some pow wow chow for everyone and smokem the peace pipe?

 

[Colmerry]

>Reddit gives Elizabeth Warren 3k+ more votes than any other candidate


Also they just interviewed college students about the debate, and they're saying the Spanish shit was pandering too
I guess everyone thought it was fucking retarded.

 

[Absolutego]

I get the feeling this was set up to make Warren look good to boost her in the publics eyes after the Pocahontas deal. Just like tomorrow's debate was set up to prop Binden up so they could do a Binden+ Warren push.

but holy shit did it fail!

All the sharks are circling...they're wont be anyone left by the time Trump's done with the democrats.

That's not really the vibe I got at all. Most of the circling shark behavior was by white dudes trying to imitate Trump or being upset over being completely ignored (sorry Delaney). We'll see how tomorrow goes, since that's the night featuring literally anyone with a chance of topping a ticket, but I'm worried this won't be the intra-party civil war it could've been this time next year.

 

[UA 674]

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LOL WUT

 

[PantsFreeZone]

You just picked the one thing I already said I actually liked about the guy. That doesn't discount every other problem I have with him.

I do think the citizens of a country should have their basic needs taken care of by said country. The united states is one of the only western nations without singlepayer. Socializing healthcare doesn't come without problems, but it would genuinely help the people who are uninsured right now and its better and actually cheaper than our current system. I strongly disagree with the notion that if you don't have a job you don't deserve to live, which is what you appear to be saying. I want EVERYONE to have access to healthcare, whether you work or not. This is not the policy of the Republican party, so I'm not a Republican.

Gay men aren't the only people who exist in America. Under Trump several departments have begun to make moves against LGBT folks.

Trump administration rolls back health care protections for LGBTQ patients

The new rule says HHS will repeal the Obama-era definition of sex protections in order to make its regulations "more consistent" with other agencies.

www.politico.com

Trump wins court victory in quest for transgender military ban

Trump administration handed small court victory in its effort to ban transgender people from serving in the US military.

www.aljazeera.com

I disagree with these things. If one party emphatically speaks about these issues in the positive and the other party "shrugs" then I'm gonna support the former. I also support things like red flag laws and preventing people who commit certain crimes from being able to own weapons.



Prison reform, drug decriminalization, gun control, immigration reform that doesn't consist entirely of sperging about a wall, protections for lgbt folks, wealth redistribution, singlepayer college and healthcare, and a President who isn't a living caricature of how manga portrays Americans.

My suggestion is that you move to Venezuela and die of starvation with your LBZYX friends.

That said, was it just my imagination or did Elizabeth Warren steal everything Bernie is going to say during his debate opportunity?

So she gets middle podium, more speaking time and the chance to spew The Sanders Doctrine first. Strange.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Trump wins court victory in quest for transgender military ban

Trump administration handed small court victory in its effort to ban transgender people from serving in the US military.

www.aljazeera.com

The transgender military rights thing to ban troons from the military is a mental health policy, due to the fact that the troons suffer from gender dysphoria, a mental illness. Already suffering from mental illness when being inducted into the military is not a healthy thing to do in a high-pressure environment like the military. It's really just a mercy save rather than everything else, so that won't end up suffering from PTSD plus Gender Dysphoria.

 

[millais]

I'm sure they'll rig all the MSM polls to be shilling for Fauxcohontas

 

[The Pink Panther]

The guy's a monster and the kind we need to get the norks and sand niggers in line.

I liked what you said until you said this. So I dunno what I should rate your post. Sounds like something straight outta r/TheDonald.

 

[Arm Pit Cream]

Mommy Tulsi will defeat the globalists with her beauty

 

[CamelCursive]

I do think the citizens of a country should have their basic needs taken care of by said country.

You mean "taken care of by other taxpayers", because the last I checked- the country isn't generating revenue by sitting there, it's taking the money of citizens via taxes, and using that. So, let's be clear in what you're asking- you want other people to use their hard-earned money to take care of you.

Also, you do realize that no one is ever denied life-saving medical care, right? That the country is littered with free clinics, right?

Also, doctors have to work for a living. You are not entitled to their labor for free. You complain that we are one of the few countries without "free" health care, so what baffles me is why you haven't moved to one of them. They sell plane tickets every fucking day. I can assist you if you like.

Gay men aren't the only people who exist in America. Under Trump several departments have begun to make moves against LGBT folks.

Someone with gender dysphoria undergoing hormone treatment is the last person I want with a loaded weapon next to me in a combat situation. Also, while I'm sure "rape" is how your ilk actually breed, proper humans look down on it- so please understand that "transgender ban" in the military is what kept a guy like me from bunking and showering with someone's 18 year old daughter. Oh, that- and the fact that if I had identified as female, my physical fitness score would have been absurdly high.

The military is no place for the mentally ill. It is not your social experiment.

Prison reform

Just saying "prison reform" doesn't mean anything, you dumb faggot. Explain what you mean. Otherwise you're just using words you heard on television.

drug decriminalization

Most people want this as well.

gun control

Fuck around and find out, faggot. We already have gun control. Explicitly explain which controls you would like to implement and tell me how much you're willing to die to see it happen.

immigration reform that doesn't consist entirely of sperging about a wall

You mean like... enforcing the laws at the border? Congratulations, you wish has been granted.

protections for lgbt folks

They have the same rights as any other human being. You are asking for special treatment. No.

wealth redistribution

Stealing. That's what you mean, stealing. "Gibsmedat"

Not your money, so no. Get a job, subhuman.

singlepayer college and healthcare

You mean "making other people pay for it". I'll humor you- maybe college, but only if it is for a genuine marketable skill and if you do not utlize your education for a career path in 5 years- you must pay it all back to the taxpayers.

and a President who isn't a living caricature of how manga portrays Americans.

I'd like fewer people in this country that are worried about what some Eurofaggot that can't even defend his preteen daughter from rapists or carry a pocketknife, or Curry-Slurping Street-Shitter thinks of the country that literally all of these fuckers seem to be lining up to get into.

 

[Salt_Merchant]

The transgender military rights thing to ban troons from the military is a mental health policy, due to the fact that the troons suffer from gender dysphoria, a mental illness. Already suffering from mental illness when being inducted into the military is not a healthy thing to do in a high-pressure environment like the military. It's really just a mercy save rather than everything else, so that won't end up suffering from PTSD plus Gender Dysphoria.

I always thought it was because transgender people need ready access to hormones, something the US military cannot guarantee in an active warzone.

same reason they dont let diabetics sign up.

 

[OttoWest]

He was talking about people "in the trans community" or something like that and was probably referring to transmen who would still get pregnant, but I'm amazed going in that direction made it through his staff.

He literally said “trans females”. Yes, we know he what he meant but he fucked it up and the truth slipped out.

“Yes it would. I don’t believe only in reproductive freedom, I believe in reproductive justice. And what means is just because a woman, or let’s also not forget someone in the trans community — a trans female — is poor, doesn’t mean they shouldn’t exercise that right to choose. So I absolutely would cover that right to have an abortion,”

 

[Arm Pit Cream]

Tulsi is the most searched candidate on google during the debate

 

[The Pink Panther]

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Tulsi is the most searched candidate on google trends during the debate

This is a good thing. The wackos are getting weeded.